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Title: McCain's Annoying Little Fraud
Source: Slate
URL Source: http://www.slate.com/id/2199042/
Published: Sep 9, 2008
Author: Mickey Kaus
Post Date: 2008-09-09 10:12:41 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 463
Comments: 24

McCain's Annoying Little Fraudkf recasts its blog in its own maverick image!

(Pierre, S.D.) McCain would like everyone to think his campaign imploded last summer because of his courageous support for the surge in Iraq:

I fought for the right strategy and more troops in Iraq, when it wasn't a popular thing to do. And when the pundits said my campaign was finished, I said I'd rather lose an election than see my country lose a war.

--McCain's acceptance speech, 9/4/08

This bit of history was repeated by the McCain campaign in at least one WaPo group interview I attended--suggesting it's an accepted talking point. It's also bogus. McCain's campaign imploded last summer because of his support for "comprehensive"immigration reform, including legalization of existing illegals (semi-amnesty). At the time, the Official MSM Story line centered on budgetary problems (still not Iraq!), but McCain himself admitted the truth to New Yorker's Ryan Lizza:

Over lunch in Arlington, McCain had given the stock explanation for what caused last summer's difficulties. "The problem, which was my problem, was that our fiscal expectations weren't met by reality," he said— in other words, he couldn't raise enough money. But the next day, as I travelled with McCain around South Carolina, he told me that his campaign's brush with death had less to do with fund-raising than with his role in championing the ambitious immigration-reform bill, supported by the White House, that died in Congress this year. "It wasn't the budgetary problems. That was an inside-the-Beltway thing," he said, referring to press coverage of his campaign's setbacks. McCain gets animated whenever he discusses the immigration issue. After a town-hall meeting in Anderson, South Carolina, he recalled how the Irish were discriminated against in America. As he quoted a placard that hangs on the wall of an aide's office ("Help Wanted—No Irish Need Apply"), he jabbed his finger in the air with such emphasis that he knocked my voice recorder to the ground and erased our conversation. "It was immigration" that hurt his campaign, he said when he continued, after a series of apologies on both sides. "I understand that. I was told by one of the pollsters, 'We see real bleeding.' " [E.A.]

McCain bucked the political/media CW on the "surge." He was right, it appears, and he should get lots of credit--though no more than President Bush, who doesn't seem to be getting any at all. But McCain's surge position wasn't what (temporarily) sank his campaign--it was how he revived his presidential campaign after it had been derailed by immigration, the issue he'd now like to hide (and an issue where he embraced the political/media CW). McCain was running in the Republican primary, remember,** which makes his behavior last summer not quite as courageous as he boasts it was. Same goes for his behavior now. ...

**--Supporting the surge was no more a huge courageous risk in a GOP primary than opposing the war was a huge courageous risk for Obama in a Dem primary. ... 12:30 P.M. link

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#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Backbencher.....what, no answer? It's been nearly 24 hours????

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-09   19:17:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

Why did he vote to fund the war, together with the other Demos? Because they're a bunch of wimps. Is that news to you?

They COULD have stopped this waste one month after they got elected, back in 2007 but they didn't. Also, they didn't impeach Bush and they didn't reverse all his sighing statements.

As you may or you may not know, I am ANTIPARTI. I believe that it's the party organizations that prevent our representatives from representing us. They are criminal organizations and they should be treated the same way Mafia is treated. The RICO laws could be easily applied to political parties if a prosecutor had the guts to do so.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-09   19:45:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Would you rather have someone who is for the war and admits it. Or someone who claims to be against it and is really for it. I'll take the honest guy.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-09   20:00:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Old Friend (#4) (Edited)

You are mixing 'honesty' and murder and stating that it's okay to mass murder people for as long as you like it and admit that you enjoy the bloodshed. This IS bizarre.

In other words, you'd rather have Dr. Mengele as your honor guest for dinner or... maybe as your favorite candidate for US prez, than some regular Germ who knew about the Dr.'s experiments and didn't scream in protest against them.

Yes?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-09   20:04:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)

You are mixing 'honesty' and murder and stating that it's okay to mass murder people for as long as you like it and admit that you enjoy the bloodshed. This IS bizarre.

In other words, you'd rather have Dr. Mengele as your honor guest for dinner or... maybe as your favorite candidate for US prez, than some regular Germ who knew about the Dr.'s experiments and didn't scream in protest against them.

Yes?

Your goofy.

Tell me this. Is there ever such thing as a just war?

I don't support this war by the way.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-09   20:10:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: Old Friend (#6)

Yes, there are such things as just wars. What we know as America's revolutionary war was quite just. I am inclined to state that the South war, defending against the North aggression was just. The Chechen war against Russia was just. Just wars are almost always defensive. I can't think of an offensive war at this time that I could call 'just'.

Bush's wars AND Clinton's wars are all criminal actions of mass murder, given the technological gap between our military and our opponents, I can't think how they could be called anything else.

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