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Title: Shot By Cops & Charged With Two Felonies, Pro Per Defendant Acquitted
Source: .
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJ93e7CJs9s
Published: Sep 9, 2008
Author: .
Post Date: 2008-09-09 12:12:25 by Artisan
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Views: 570
Comments: 46

This is another one of those stories we hear so often, about someone who is shot by cops who then claim the motorist 'tried to run them down'. In most instances the motorist is simply slaughtered on the spot, with the shooting ruled "a good shoot" by the police department, thus justifiable. In this case the man, Vincent Arias, was shot by police and escaped, only to be turned in by his own wife, who was threatened with having her kids stolen by 'department of child services'. Arias was then taken to twin towers jail in Los Angeles and held there for almost two years, with the D.A. demanding over a million dollars bond to let him out. Arias was charged with two felonies in October 2004; attempted murder of a police officer and assault with a deadly weapon (his '94 Chrysler). After putting up with big bills and stall tactics by a series of unimpressive lawyers, Arias fired them all; and with the help of a black cellmate he befriended, used the law library and accumulated knowledge to represent himself. Offered a plea deal of 20 years by the D.A., Arias, who had been facing a minimum of 35 years for each felony, rejected their 'deal' and was aquitted on all charges by a jury of twelve people in August 2006.

A truly amazing story of grit, determination and success despite all odds. This video is a summary/ preview of the entire 3 part 30 minute interview with southern California resident Vincent Arias, which will be posted soon. I am proud to be friends with this man.

---- pro per

A term derived from the Latin in propria, meaning "for one's self," used in some states to describe a person who handles her own case without a lawyer. In other states, the term pro se is used.

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#1. To: All (#0)

video is processing and will be up in a few minutes.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-09   12:13:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Artisan (#0)

This video is no longer available.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   12:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#2)

i just put it up, should be finished processing in 10 minutes or so,.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-09   12:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Artisan (#3)

Thanks, I'll keep checking back.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   12:28:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Artisan (#0)

rejected their 'deal' and was aquitted on all charges by a jury of twelve people in August 2006.

Means nothing. This is another decision in the so-called courts that will not be published, so that no one can use it or the information used in the case in another trial.

And the wheels grind on and hope springs eternal ... for those who can not see nor hear.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-09   12:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Artisan (#0)

Great interview and closing tune.

You're getting better and better at this video stuff.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-09   14:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Artisan (#3)

your reply to zeitgeist is a joke.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-09   14:55:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Ninpo (#7)

your reply to zeitgeist is a joke.

Very much agreed.

Ncturnal  posted on  2008-09-09   16:56:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Ncturnal (#8)

I deny jesus christ.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-09   17:04:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Artisan, all (#0)

jail in Los Angeles and held there for almost two years, with the D.A. demanding over a million dollars bond to let him out.

So it's safe to say the writ of habeas corpus meant jack shit when a black robed lawyer set bail at a number that couldn't possible be made. Why so much excitement about protecting our 'rights' when they can be circumvented by a jack off with a bar card???

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-09   17:16:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Ninpo (#9)

You are probably a doper too.

yukon  posted on  2008-09-09   17:21:37 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: yukon (#11)

You are probably a doper too.

I smoke every day. So?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-09   17:30:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ninpo (#12)

~~~~~CHORTLE~~~~~ I point and laugh at you!

yukon  posted on  2008-09-09   17:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: yukon (#13) (Edited)

~~~~~CHORTLE~~~~~ I point and laugh at you!

Did you know that when you point your finger at others, 3 are pointing back at you?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-09   17:43:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ninpo (#14)

Why are you such a dum bass? Too many mind altering substances ingested, injected and inhaled?

yukon  posted on  2008-09-09   17:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: yukon (#15)

Why are you such a dum bass? Too many mind altering substances ingested, injected and inhaled?

Actually, I am pretty clean. I don't eat meat, which makes me not nasty like other meat eaters.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-09   17:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Ninpo (#16)

yukon  posted on  2008-09-09   17:58:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: richard9151 (#5)

i remember you're also the guy who was scared to try to fight a traffic ticket 'cause you were told 'you can never win'. is that why you fled the country? why did you become so cynical and hopeless? you would have been rotting in jail for 100 years if you were this guy i suppose, whining about how you're the victium. shame.

i know in mex people just bend over and pay the bribe, but we ain't there quite yet.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-09   18:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Artisan (#18)

i remember you're also the guy who was scared to try to fight a traffic ticket 'cause

I fought traffic tickets. Drove for years with no state issued plates (used private ones) on my pickup, and no drivers license. To what point?

is that why you fled the country?

Who/what gave you the right to make such a claim? On what basis do you make the claim? I spent two years back in the states working after I married my wife down here. So pleae state chapter and verse to back up your claim. In the 4um, I have been very open about why I left the states. If you can look around at what is happening to the housing, banking and police state tactics and not figure it out, then you are way, way behind the curve. And, by the way, there are more than 5,000 Americans who live near where I do in Mexico. There are tens of thousands more in other parts of Mexico, and many of them have been here much, much longer than I.

why did you become so cynical and hopeless?

Who said I am? I have posted ALL of the details about why court cases that go against public policy are never published and can not be used in subsequent cases. But that is certainly not hopeless; it simply shows you that man has no solution. Want to guess what the solution is?

you would have been rotting in jail for 100 years if you were this guy i suppose

I did not say anything about him. I said that his victory meant nothing -- cause it will never be published. Perhaps you need to adjust and/or practice your reading skills.

i know in mex people just bend over and pay the bribe,

You should not speak of things you have no personal knowledge of. Really.

but we ain't there quite yet.

LOL! No, you are WAY past that!! Or do you really not understand how the same pols keep getting elected?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-09   19:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: richard9151 (#19)

winning is an ends in itself. the guy didnt need to see someone else win in order for him to win. The point is, he fought the trump charges and beat them by himself, so it's not meaningless by a long shot, if you acknowledge that there is value in each human life! I think this was a great victory and shows others that it can be done.

traffic tickets, i win them to save myself money; i'm not throwing it away. it's a piece of cake. not difficult at all. if i could figure out how to drive without tags in so. cal i'd do it. depends on how much time and effort is required, and how successful the tactics are. because if one has no tags and loose on their arguement, they steal your car on the spot. So i dont know if it would be financially feasible.

payoffs in mexico? if you arent familiar with that, maybe you talk to different people than i do. it's par for the course.

Who/what gave you the right to make such a claim? On what basis do you make the claim? I spent two years back in the states working after I married my wife down here. So

Sorry if i offended you, to each their own. I don't really look forward to living in mexico., no matter how bad it gets here. although i may out of necessity at some point. it's a third world pit and yes i've been there plenty of times, and not at the tourist traps. You talk about murika as if it's hopeless, and perhaps it is, but it's not as hopeless as mexico IMO.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-09   22:31:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ninpo, Ncturnal (#9)

that's too bad, I hope you will reconsider. have a good day.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-09   22:41:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Artisan (#20)

I don't really look forward to living in mexico.,

There were two posts put up today.

By me; “Modern Debt Peonage”?

And just now by bwales; Fannie and Freddie were lenders.

You need to read both. Then tell me where you are going to live.

And by the way, there is nothing in either one that is new to me, or, a surprise.

And by the way, I love living here. I love the people, and, have never enjoyed such a stress free life before -- EVER!

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-09   22:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Artisan (#0)

...used the law library and accumulated knowledge to represent himself.

I haven't looked at the video.

Can you sum the defense? or the "theory" that was used?

We cannot afford peace at any price. - Newt Gingrich, May 29, 1998

rack42  posted on  2008-09-09   23:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: rack42 (#23)

his tactic seemed to be pretty straight forward, the defendant's credibility vs the cop's. there were some witnesses to the shooting also, and he gave his earnest true version. he had actually been driving to a phone to call police after being accosted/attempted robbed by some gangsters at a park. on escaping and speeding away he was tagged by a radar cop , who then followed him to another location- and when he saw some gangsters there, he put his vehicle in reverse to get out of there and was shot by the cop. he sped away, not knowing even then that it was a cop who shot him. he told me that his friend helped him mostly with the rules, formalities etc. on how to present his case and what to file when. in the vid it's an overview of the story, he tells me what happened that day, how they treated him in prison and the aftermath. he has a current civil suit going. it was pretty much a crap shoot but he took his chances and the jury believed him.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-10   9:10:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: richard9151 (#22)

you have the most informative posts around here about the reality of the situation.

i agree with your line of reasoning and action.

i looked at belieze 2 years ago but man, it was soooo dang hot.

Many believe in either intelligent design or evolution...but I am opting for unintelligent design, where god is a retarded kid who likes setting army men on fire and leaving his toys out in the rain.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-09-10   9:13:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Artisan, Ninpo, Ncturnal (#21)

Too bad those guys have an issue with your tagline. Jesus said that whoever denied him before men he would deny before the Father. (Matthew 10:33)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   9:21:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

Glory to God in the highest, may the Lord Jesus Christ help them see the truth, Amen.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-10   9:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Artisan (#27)

Glory to God in the highest, may the Lord Jesus Christ help them see the truth, Amen.

Yes. I agree.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   9:33:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: gengis gandhi (#25)

you have the most informative posts around here about the reality of the situation.

Thank you. I have had others say much the same thing, but usually privately rather than openly, so your remarks are esp. welcome.

I fear for my people, not because of who is in Washington, but for their ignorance. And it is blind ignorance; self inflicted. For such, there is no redemption.

The hot part I understand all to well now! I can change my shirt 3 times a day, and soak all of them throughly! But let me tell you a little secret. What is winter in the states, and fall and spring, is really, really delightful here.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-10   11:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Artisan, James Deffenbach (#27)

Glory to God in the highest, may the Lord Jesus Christ help them see the truth, Amen.

Excellent remark, but as we are also told in the Bible, the Truth is not for all, and He will blind those to the Truth who are not suitable. The word suitable is not used, of course, but that is what is being talked about. I think it has most to do with ego; ain't no one gonna tell me how to live! And Etc.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-10   11:06:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: richard9151 (#30)

Excellent remark, but as we are also told in the Bible, the Truth is not for all, and He will blind those to the Truth who are not suitable. The word suitable is not used, of course, but that is what is being talked about. I think it has most to do with ego; ain't no one gonna tell me how to live! And Etc.

The Truth is for all who will accept it. The second book of Peter, chapter 3, verse 9 says that the Lord is not willing that any should perish but that all should repent. http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/popup.pl?book=2Pe&chapter=3&verse=9&version=kjv#9

In their ignorance and misunderstanding, some say that "a loving God wouldn't send anyone to hell." But God doesn't "send" anyone. People go willingly when they refuse the free gift they are offered. And yes, I think much of that can be attributed to pride, or ego, as you call it.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   12:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: James Deffenbach (#26)

have an issue with your tagline. Jesus said that whoever denied him before men he would deny before the Father. (Matthew 10:33)

Joozus never existed. It is a composite god from many other religions and people who follow gods sun are zombies.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-10   20:37:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Artisan (#27)

Glory to God in the highest, may the Lord Jesus Christ help them see the truth, Amen.

What about all the other solar dieties, oh brainwashed one?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-10   20:42:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ninpo (#9)

I deny jesus christ.

Vegetarianism will fuck your brain up, son.

Freeper: I read, but do not understand, write, but make no sense, think, but nothing happens.

Turtle  posted on  2008-09-10   20:47:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Turtle (#34)

Vegetarianism will fuck your brain up, son.

Yes, people who are brainwashed by religion are soooooo not fucked in the head.[/sarcasm]

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-10   20:49:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Ninpo (#32)

Joozus never existed.

I don't know whether anyone named "Joozus" ever lived or not but you are quite wrong if you are claiming that Jesus never lived. There is far too much empirical and historical evidence to prove he did.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   21:39:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: richard9151 (#29)

i haven't a single picture of me in belieze without a wet shirt.

our caribe guide generally showed up in dark blue, thick denim blue jeans and a long sleeve cotton oxford shirt, with a cap.

he never broke a sweat.

the first black man i ever met named roy.

he was a good guy. hope he is doing well.

he must have laughed at us foreigners the way i do at the mexicans trying to comprehend a michigan/indiana winter as they trudge through waist high snow banks.

well, i learned it is hot as hell, the people who have iron fences around there homes have them for the same reason as anyone else who lives in an environment where such things are needed, without firearms....and that you don't need much to do the atlas shrug shuffle.

every argument that can be made against the move to a second world country are as valid in the US as they are there....govt upheaval, confiscation, lack of representatives to represent anyone other than themselves....

except, in 2nd world countries, you can still deal with ethical mobsters, versus the unethical ones typified by the racketeers on the teat.

Many believe in either intelligent design or evolution...but I am opting for unintelligent design, where god is a retarded kid who likes setting army men on fire and leaving his toys out in the rain.

Gengis Gandhi, Troubled Genius

We come from the land of the ice and snow,
From the midnight sun where the hot springs blow.
The hammer of the gods will drive our ships to new lands,
To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming!

On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore.

gengis gandhi  posted on  2008-09-11   12:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ninpo (#33)

you're way too eager to believe two-bit internet documentaries. or, are you peter j perhaps?

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-13   11:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Artisan (#38)

you're way too eager to believe two-bit internet documentaries. or, are you peter j perhaps?

Two-bit rehashed creator sun "god" worship notwithstanding?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-15   13:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Ninpo (#39)

watch this one: as you will see, your movie uses literal satanists, freemasons, astrologers and fag activists as their so-called''expert sources''. don't buy it.

ZEITGEIST REFUTED

Even secular scholars have rejected the idea of Christianity borrowing from the ancient mysteries. The well-respected Sir Edward Evans-Pritchard writes in Theories of Primitive Religion that "The evidence for this theory… is negligible." “The first real parallel of a dying and rising god does not appear until A.D. 150, more than a hundred years after the origin of Christianity. So if there was any influence of one on the other, it was the influence of the historical event of the New Testament [resurrection] on mythology, not the reverse. The only known account of a god surviving death that predates Christianity is the Egyptian cult god Osiris. In this myth, Osiris is cut into fourteen pieces, scattered around Egypt, then reassembled and brought back to life by the goddess Isis. However, Osiris does not actually come back to physical life but becomes a member of a shadowy underworld...This is far different than Jesus’ resurrection account where he was the gloriously risen Prince of life who was seen by others on earth before his ascension into heaven." --Dr. Norman Geisler "Not one clear case of any alleged resurrection teaching appears in any pagan text before the late second century A.D., almost one hundred years after the New Testament was written." --Dr. Gary Habermas This film refutes the following claims made in the film Zeitgeist: - Christianity was borrowed from pagan myths? -The Bible was plagiarized? -Jesus wasn't a historical figure? -Christianity was created for social control? -The Bible is based on astrology?

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-09-23   3:30:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Artisan (#40)

watch this one: as you will see, your movie uses literal satanists, freemasons, astrologers and fag activists as their so-called''expert sources''. don't buy it.

Sorry, but the church was created by satanists...

PS what is wrong with astrology?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-23   13:18:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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