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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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Views: 2418
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Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment. Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it. So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though. It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out.

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#83. To: Old Friend (#82)

It should subtract from whatever credibility the McCain campaign still has left.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)

It should

Ok you answered only one of those questions. And you never answered above if you think the video should have been removed from youtube.

Back to "it should" Maybe you think "it should" but do you think "it will".

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: James Deffenbach (#81)

And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Old Friend (#78)

I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to. Expand on that. You have any ideas?

Well...I'd have to say the Zionists that are hell bent on a world government is a good place to start...you know, those folks occupying positions of power in our government and that little country in the middle east.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   19:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Old Friend (#85)

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain.

Not true, although it's been said often in better times. All that voting means is that you brought yourself to participate. It may be that sitting out a vote says more than going in and pulling one of the pre-approved levers. Actually, telling people that they have to vote simply perpetuates the problem. If we all refused to vote, the government would be much more obviously illegitimate. As it is, they can point to the small number of people who do turn out to vote and claim they "represent" the people.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: James Deffenbach (#77)

...so the 2, er, I mean, 1 party system moves forward. We just THINK we're free.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   19:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Old Friend (#0)

"Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment."

Yep, the ObamaNation is flailing around in a hopeless search fer a counter- strategy. And Barry's desperation is leading to more and more mistakes...he ain't quite the Messiah the RAT-Media makes him out to be.

"Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it."

Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary.

"So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though."

I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context.

"It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out."

Yep, the ObamaNation is looking mighty desperate...MUD

Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States,
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!

Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-09-10   19:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Old Friend, Mudboy Slim (#89)

Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary.

MBS gives an outstanding endorsement of anything else.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mudboy Slim (#89)

I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context.

Someone put it back up. HEHE

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Old Friend (#84) (Edited)

I have no idea what Youtube video you're talking about. Was the McCain commercial removed from Youtube? Okay. And? It's supposed to be a PAID commercial. No?

Anyways, WHO removed it? What were the circumstances?

What I REALLY wanted to see on Youtube and I couldn't because they took it out was the video of Jimmi Page and Leona Lewis doing Whole Lotta Love in Beijing.

Ahhhh!!! So it was Katie Couric objecting her being made to look as if she was saying something she did not mean, the way Obama was being made to look as if he was saying something he didn't mean?

I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)

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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   19:52:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Old Friend (#75)

Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been.

How was this a dirty trick on McCain's part. Whether Obama meant it or not, the audience immediately picked up on the linkage to Palin's speech.

The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2008-09-10   19:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)

The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.

That never occurred to me.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.

It could.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#61)

The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk.

Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria.

Actually, I met a nice girl from South America and she talked perfect English, not ghetto ebonics. And she didn't whine incessantly about how she had been oppressed and how all white people were devils who kept her down.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeye (#79)

Nothing new about that.

No, sadly enough, that is true.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Old Friend (#80)

I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.

I have no idea. Don't live there.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Old Friend (#85)

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.

I wouldn't waste my time and the gas to go to the polls to vote for establishment candidate A or B since they are both owned by the same people and will do what they are told. Only independent people like Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin, people who haven't sold out, deserve any vote from me 'cause I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils." It is still evil.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Freedomsnotfree (#88)

We just THINK we're free.

Not all of us think that because we know that Americans are much less "freer" now than our grandparents and their parents were. This article speaks to that very well I think.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

Your chicken shit to answer if youtube should have taken the video down. I'll take it that you are an anti free speech communist just like your messiah Obama.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeye (#87)

Not true, although it's been said often in better times. All that voting means is that you brought yourself to participate. It may be that sitting out a vote says more than going in and pulling one of the pre-approved levers.

What about voting third party?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: James Deffenbach (#102)

We just THINK we're free.

I am free. Believe me.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:59:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: Old Friend (#104)

What about voting third party?

It doesn't give you any more valid option of complaining. It just means that you voted, nothing more. You have a right to complain because you're a citizen. Period.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   21:06:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#103)

Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:14:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: Old Friend (#105)

I am free. Believe me.

Well yes, relatively speaking if you compare your situation to that of an abject slave with a cruel master, you probably are. But it isn't likely that you are as free as you should be or were intended to be. If you are I can only say good for you and I am glad you made it off the plantation and live in perfect freedom. Do you have directions to the Big Rock Candy Mountains?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   21:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Old Friend (#105)

I am free. Believe me

old friend...don't pay your tribute (taxes) to the king and you'll see how free you are. Even the surfs in feudal England where only required to pay 25% tribute to their king...in this country, it's more like 70%.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   21:23:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Old Friend, Sonovademocrat (#96)

Obummer knew exactly what he was saying. There's a rumor going around that he got together with that turd James Carville and came up with these snide remarks.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   21:53:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: X-15 (#110) (Edited)

Yes, he's saying that all of the McCain talk is BS. Do you dispute that?

Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?' Of course not. It's BS. What other claims is he making? Oh, yes... what is he going to do about 'evil'? He's going to 'defeat it'. BS again.

Anything else?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:54:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#107)

Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.

Why are you calling me stupid? You didn't even answer the question. Lets go for the third or fourth time. Should youtube have taken the video down?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:56:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: X-15 (#110)

There's a rumor going around that he got together with that turd James Carville and came up with these snide remarks.

I don't know about that. Are you trying to start a rumor?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:57:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Old Friend (#113)

Pass it around the internet, just give me credit when James Carville has to go on Hannity & Colmes to deny the rumors ;-)

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   21:59:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Old Friend (#112)

Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out.

Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#111)

Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?' Of course not. It's BS.

Why would you want to go to the gates of hell anyway?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Old Friend (#116)

That's what McCain said. He's BS-ing, big time, all the time.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   22:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#115)

Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out.

Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not?

So you can't answer if they should have taken the video down. Instead yougive the excuse that "you can't explain youtubes decision. Then what makes you think you are qualified to explain, or should I say try to explain away each and every of Obamas.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   22:02:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#117)

That's what McCain said. He's BS-ing, big time, all the time.

I know he said that. But Palin is hot. ;)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   22:03:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Old Friend (#118)

Like I said, taking out McCain's stupid video is YOUR problem. I couldn't care one way or another. What I CARE is their taking out the Leona Lewis/Jimmy Page video.

So, if you are going to ask them about the McCain stupid video, maybe you can ask them about the video that I CARE ABOUT.

Okay?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   22:04:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Old Friend (#111)

Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?

Well, since you asked.......

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   22:07:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#120)

NOW THERE IS THIS

Obama On Letterman: 'McCain Policy Is The Pig' Presidential Hopeful Says Media Took His Words And Ran; Defends Bush Policies On Afghanistan, AIDS In Africa NEW YORK (CBS) 53; Presidential hopeful Barack Obama appeared on the "Late Show with David Letterman" in New York on Wednesday after a day of heated debate by media and political pundits over comments some took as a slam against Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Obama spent much of his visit talking about Palin and clarifying his earlier comments.

"This is sort of silly season in politics, not that there's a non-silly season, but it gets sillier," Obama said. "And it's a common expression in at least Illinois. I don't know about New York City. I don't know what you put lipstick on here."

Obama said to him the expression "lipstick on a pig" in this case applies to having a bad idea and trying to pass it off as change.

"Just calling [ideas] change, calling them different doesn't make it better, hence lipstick on a pig," Obama said.

He then clarified his statements even more.

"Keep in mind, technically, had I meant it this way, [Palin] would be the lipstick. The failed policies of John McCain would be the pig, just following the logic of this illogical situation," Obama said.

Earlier in the day, Obama accused Republican McCain's campaign of using "lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics" in claiming he used a sexist comment against Palin.

Calling it "the latest made-up controversy by the John McCain campaign," Obama responded to the Republicans' charge that he was referring to Palin when he used the phrase "lipstick on a pig" at a campaign stop Tuesday.

"I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics. Enough is enough," he said.

During his visit with Letterman, Obama talked about visiting Disneyland, boyhood memories, joking with his 87-year-old grandmother and embarrassing his daughters on their first day back to school.

Obama said his grandmother's reaction when he won the nomination was pretty simple: "That's nice, that's nice."

Obama praised President George W. Bush's efforts to send aid to countries in Africa. Obama, whose father was Kenyan, visited the African country in 2007.

"People there are more energetic and optimistic than you could possibly imagine," said Obama.

Regarding rumors of former president Bill Clinton's future as part of an Obama administration cabinet, the senator downplayed that possibility.

"If you're a former president, I don't think you settle for a cabinet position," he said. "It's sort of like Mickey Mantle playing AAA (baseball).

"There's nobody smarter in politics," Obama said of Bill Clinton. "I think he can be a great advocate for the campaign."

(© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.)

Obama is now coming up with meanings to what he said. He ad libbed his pig comment. Now trying to say there was some meaning to it seems like he is lying.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   22:09:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: X-15 (#121)

That's funny.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   22:10:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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