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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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Views: 2580
Comments: 138

Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment. Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it. So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though. It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out.

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#18. To: Old Friend (#0)

To quote Mr. McCready, a character in V to much better effect then he, Bullocks.

McCain with his use of the same common expression, with Obama's use of it long before McCain's choice for his co-loser in this race has over reached his hand.

Barack Obama merely has to pluck the ripe fruit of people's weariness of Swift Boat lies and garbage and call McCain's hand.

John McCain's hand will fold, and he will lose this election.

This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people.

There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   11:48:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.

There is damage in it. He may not have meant to call her a pig. But the damage is in peoples perception of his words. It will push some people over to McCain. Don't doubt it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   12:28:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Old Friend (#26)

As you probably recall, Palin got applause at the Republican National Convention when she said that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom (meaning herself) is that the latter wears lipstick. So, is she dissing herself here?

There is a double standard at work, and those who buy into a double standard and gimmicks over substance are going to vote the way they will whether or not such a bald attempt at a Swift boat slam dunk is attempted or not.

But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.

Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   16:44:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#51) (Edited)

But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.

Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.

Obama's opponent is a guy who will continue the policies of a President with a 28% approval rating. If BHO were a halfway competent candidate, he'd be a shoe- in.

Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   16:51:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)

At least two factors are at work here:

(1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

(2) Obama is still (half) black.

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-09-10   16:59:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)

The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets.

That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   17:47:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)

This Video No Longer Available.

So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:04:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#65)

HAHA....Someone else put it back up.

Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec?

You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:07:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Old Friend (#66)

She's still a Zionist pig, yes.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:10:46 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeye (#67)

She's still a Zionist pig,

Would Jesus be considered a zionist?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:11:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Old Friend (#68)

Absolutely not.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:12:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeye (#69)

Absolutely not.

What about when he returns?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:14:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#70)

Obama spoke an absolutely coherent paragraph, comparing W's policies to McCain's. The conclusion being that there was no difference between them, concluding that McCain was attempting to present his policies as something different than W's but all that he was doing was putting lipstick on a pig. It had NOTHING to do with Palin. Palin was not mentioned within that context.

If the McCain people believe it was about Palin maybe it's THEIR dirty minds and this is how THEY see Palin.

I already said this at the top

"Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it."

your behind the curve.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:24:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Old Friend (#72)

So, everyone is in agreement.

It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:25:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)

Ok you made your point that you think it is a dirty trick. I have a question for you. Do you think this will sway the election? How much if you think it does. And in what direction will it sway the election? Then one final question. Who do you think is going to win the election? Not who you want to win but who do you think will win?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:34:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Old Friend (#82)

It should subtract from whatever credibility the McCain campaign still has left.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:36:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)

It should

Ok you answered only one of those questions. And you never answered above if you think the video should have been removed from youtube.

Back to "it should" Maybe you think "it should" but do you think "it will".

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:37:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Old Friend (#84) (Edited)

I have no idea what Youtube video you're talking about. Was the McCain commercial removed from Youtube? Okay. And? It's supposed to be a PAID commercial. No?

Anyways, WHO removed it? What were the circumstances?

What I REALLY wanted to see on Youtube and I couldn't because they took it out was the video of Jimmi Page and Leona Lewis doing Whole Lotta Love in Beijing.

Ahhhh!!! So it was Katie Couric objecting her being made to look as if she was saying something she did not mean, the way Obama was being made to look as if he was saying something he didn't mean?

I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:51:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

Your chicken shit to answer if youtube should have taken the video down. I'll take it that you are an anti free speech communist just like your messiah Obama.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:57:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Old Friend (#103)

Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:14:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#107)

Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.

Why are you calling me stupid? You didn't even answer the question. Lets go for the third or fourth time. Should youtube have taken the video down?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:56:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: Old Friend (#112)

Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out.

Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not?

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#118. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#115)

Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out.

Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not?

So you can't answer if they should have taken the video down. Instead yougive the excuse that "you can't explain youtubes decision. Then what makes you think you are qualified to explain, or should I say try to explain away each and every of Obamas.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10 22:02:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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