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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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#18. To: Old Friend (#0)
To quote Mr. McCready, a character in V to much better effect then he, Bullocks. McCain with his use of the same common expression, with Obama's use of it long before McCain's choice for his co-loser in this race has over reached his hand. Barack Obama merely has to pluck the ripe fruit of people's weariness of Swift Boat lies and garbage and call McCain's hand. John McCain's hand will fold, and he will lose this election. This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people. There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.
There is damage in it. He may not have meant to call her a pig. But the damage is in peoples perception of his words. It will push some people over to McCain. Don't doubt it.
As you probably recall, Palin got applause at the Republican National Convention when she said that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom (meaning herself) is that the latter wears lipstick. So, is she dissing herself here? There is a double standard at work, and those who buy into a double standard and gimmicks over substance are going to vote the way they will whether or not such a bald attempt at a Swift boat slam dunk is attempted or not. But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race. Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.
Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race. Obama's opponent is a guy who will continue the policies of a President with a 28% approval rating. If BHO were a halfway competent candidate, he'd be a shoe- in. Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.
At least two factors are at work here: (1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes. (2) Obama is still (half) black.
Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets. That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.
This Video No Longer Available. So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.
HAHA....Someone else put it back up. Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec? You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.
She's still a Zionist pig, yes.
Would Jesus be considered a zionist?
Absolutely not.
What about when he returns?
If the McCain people believe it was about Palin maybe it's THEIR dirty minds and this is how THEY see Palin. I already said this at the top "Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it." your behind the curve.
So, everyone is in agreement. It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
No. I do probably disagree with putting Katie Couric in the ad. I don't think she was talking about Obama when she made that statement. Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been. So it is fair to put the ad up. Obama is free to put ads up to. He can defend it and call them distorters and liars. Then the people can decide. Do you think the video should have been removed from youtube?
How was this a dirty trick on McCain's part. Whether Obama meant it or not, the audience immediately picked up on the linkage to Palin's speech. The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
That never occurred to me.
Obummer knew exactly what he was saying. There's a rumor going around that he got together with that turd James Carville and came up with these snide remarks.
Yes, he's saying that all of the McCain talk is BS. Do you dispute that? Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?' Of course not. It's BS. What other claims is he making? Oh, yes... what is he going to do about 'evil'? He's going to 'defeat it'. BS again. Anything else?
Well, since you asked.......
#123. To: X-15 (#121)
That's funny.
Hells yes, and Randall could make that Palin bitch bark like a circus seal.
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#26. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.
#51. To: Old Friend (#26)
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
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But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.
#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)
The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.
#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)
#66. To: All (#65)
#67. To: Old Friend (#66)
#68. To: buckeye (#67)
She's still a Zionist pig,
#69. To: Old Friend (#68)
#70. To: buckeye (#69)
Absolutely not.
#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#70)
Obama spoke an absolutely coherent paragraph, comparing W's policies to McCain's. The conclusion being that there was no difference between them, concluding that McCain was attempting to present his policies as something different than W's but all that he was doing was putting lipstick on a pig. It had NOTHING to do with Palin. Palin was not mentioned within that context.
#73. To: Old Friend (#72)
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
#94. To: Old Friend (#75)
Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been.
#96. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)
The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
#110. To: Old Friend, Sonovademocrat (#96)
#111. To: X-15 (#110)
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#121. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Old Friend (#111)
Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?
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#124. To: X-15 (#121)
Americans want a Dante-esque President
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