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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment. Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it. So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though. It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out.

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#27. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

Still kicking.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   12:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

This election is the people's choice to make.

this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country.

a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin

a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud.

wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them."

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#21)

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

i think way before that.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent, christine, Ferret Mike (#21)

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

I'm not a big believer in outright vote fraud deciding elections.

Why would they bother with such a risky scheme, when the mass media and political parties have narrowed the (non)choice down to two candidates who are equally acceptable to the establishment elites?

The basic strategy is to have the party machines and mass media marginalize and black out any candidates who might really shake things up (Ron Paul, etc), all the while making sure that whether you have an R or a D, the powers that be are equally happy. There isn't any need for vote fraud when nobody knows about or gets to vote for anyone other than two candidates that have the right brand name seals of approval.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   12:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)

I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.

Good second choice you've made. Me, it'll be a write in for Ron Paul.

I just love telling anyone within earshot that I will be writing in Ron Paul. Many reply back that I'll be throwing my vote away or that I'll be helping elect one of the lesser of 2 evils. They invaribably tip their hand on who they support. Most can't even say why they support obanger or mcinsane. I guess it is cause their daddy told them to vote pubby or demonwit. The hell with the real concerns and issues.

One of my friends used to own an Isaly's store and restaurant. Every election day he put a sign in the main front window asking passerby's not to vote. The sign said we already had enough crooks in government as it is. He also layed out the former Spotlight newspaper focusing on the governmental corruption.

It would be easy to brand him as an anti-semite because he supported the Spotlight and they appeared to be anti-semitic. However, one of his best friens is Jewish. Both are retired and believe it or not, they exchange Christmas cards and visit each other from time to time. When his Jewish friend hits town, his first stop is the synogouge and then on to his friends place for some chatter and good food. I guess we could call them The Odd Couple.

Now, if you have a fear of voting for one of the lesser of 2 evils, vote for one of the minority party candidates and help get rid of the garbage.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-09-10   12:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rupert_Pupkin, LACUMO (#30) (Edited)

wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Freedomsnotfree, Destro (#20) (Edited)

I hear you FNF, but I suspect our friend Destro is a somewhat 'new' American here to give us lessons on our government.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   12:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: angle (#13)

I want that pic on a campaign button!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   12:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull, angle (#34)

I want that pic on a campaign button!!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   13:00:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#32)

A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates.

I think that the best way for them to vent their frustration is by a third party protest vote. However, not voting could be the next best thing. If the day comes when only 20% of eligible voters do so, idiots like Bush can't go around talking about a "mandate."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   13:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#36)

A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates.

Or they may have figgered out that sockpuppet A will be about the same as sockpuppet B.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-10   13:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

R.P.

I definitely DON'T like her stance on the war. I think we should mind our own business.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Destro (#25)

I have no doubt they can sway an election but I'm not convinced they can completely change the outcome of an overwhelming election. At any rate...I'll vote against the establishment's one party system and vote for Ron Paul, if he's on the ticket, or Chuck Baldwin if he's not.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: LACUMO (#31)

Paul is my first choice if he's on the ballot...if not, Chuck gets the vote. I'm NOT an anti-semite, whatever that means, but I think we need to stop funding Israel, get the Zonists out of our government and let those in the mid-east fight their own wars. I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Old Friend (#0)

Have you heard about this?

" Palin Is Not Snow White

This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.

According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.

What Did Palin Say

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

It was a direct jab at Obama beating Hillary Clinton....."

judicial-inc.biz/89palin_is_not_snow_white.htm

If this is true, pray for "Lucille".

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-09-10   14:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Old Friend (#41)

What Did Palin Say

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

ROTFLOL!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   14:10:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#42)

ROTFLOL!

true!...but the Klintons leave a long trail of bodies....and so do the Zionists. That poor waitress might have wanted to keep quiet, but Juneau is a small town, and the temptation to share in the hoopla might have been too much for her. Don't know which puppets the Zionists would prefer at this date, and don't much care. I just hope Lucille doesn't end up in the Channel for her indiscretion.

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2008-09-10   15:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#21)

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

It will come to down to this: Who can sell more dolls and superhero toys, Obama or Palin?

Right now, Palin dolls and glasses are selling fast, hence the betting odds changing in favor of McCain.

Vitamin Z  posted on  2008-09-10   15:23:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Jethro Tull, Freedomsnotfree (#33)

I hear you FNF, but I suspect our friend Destro is a somewhat 'new' American here to give us lessons on our government.

New to this forum or the USA? Or both? I have been in the USA and a citizen as long as I have been alive. Ex GOP party member to - disgusts me I violated Washington's final warning and joined a political party. Oh, wait am I not supposed to know that fact about American history either? GO METS!

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   15:40:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Old Friend (#0)

I just saw Contessa Brewer come completely unhinged on MSNBC-TV. She lost all journalistic "integrity" and was combative, opinionated, and flat out rude in her defense of Obama. I thought I wasn't supposed to know anything about a reporters' personal politics unless they were clearly in an editorial segment of a program???

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   15:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Old Friend (#0)

And they aren't showing the paper around rotten fish comment.

Shades of Dukakis.

Of course, with "rotten fish", another whole connotation.

All in all, he doesn't help his case with this comment.

The best defence seems to be is that it ain't much, get over it.

But that ignores the reality of perceptions, a dead giveaway being the full defence being employed by this comment, in addition to the race turning into Obama v Palin.

The state polls aren't lookin good either!

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-10   15:49:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)

I just hope Lucille doesn't end up in the Channel for her indiscretion.

Lucille had better hide and keep a low profile.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   16:13:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Destro (#45)

GO METS!

I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   16:31:19 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#41)

“So Sambo beat the bitch!”

If she actually said this, it would have been all over the news by now and Mad Mac would be looking for a new running mate. Just gossip mill material, IMO. One thing the MSM does not tolerate in its puppet candidates is political incorrectness, humorous or not.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   16:35:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Old Friend (#26)

As you probably recall, Palin got applause at the Republican National Convention when she said that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom (meaning herself) is that the latter wears lipstick. So, is she dissing herself here?

There is a double standard at work, and those who buy into a double standard and gimmicks over substance are going to vote the way they will whether or not such a bald attempt at a Swift boat slam dunk is attempted or not.

But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.

Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   16:44:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France.

GO LANCE! ;-)


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   16:46:21 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Jethro Tull (#49)

I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.

Wow, your old. :)

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   16:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#51) (Edited)

But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.

Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.

Obama's opponent is a guy who will continue the policies of a President with a 28% approval rating. If BHO were a halfway competent candidate, he'd be a shoe- in.

Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   16:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#32)

wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.

It would be great to vote for a third party candidate. If we stay home, the lousy corrupt Constitutional hating twits will believe they have already won and will believe they have a mandate.

Vote third party or minority party and vote early and often. Screw these freaking control freaks. Simply ignoring will only embolden them. Let us take the Patrick Henry approach and pledge. " Give us liberty or we'll give you death".

LACUMO  posted on  2008-09-10   16:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)

At least two factors are at work here:

(1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

(2) Obama is still (half) black.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-09-10   16:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)

Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   17:00:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Sam Houston (#56)

(1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

(2) Obama is still (half) black.

There's also

3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   17:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Sam Houston (#56)

(2) Obama is still (half) black.

To be more accurate he is half African. His ancestors are not linked to the Africans that arrived to the USA over generations.

That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in.

I say this not in the way a Rush Limbough type would say it as in Obama adopted black Americans as his own for political purposes like this was planned from the get go. If Obama had grown up in South Africa under aparthied he would have adopted the culture of the 'coloreds' who were the mixed race groups in that system. Society always tries to force you into a group or role based on who you were born to and what you resemble.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   17:14:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#58)

3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.

When was the last time this ever happened? Since Kennedy ushered in the TV president - looks and personality are all that counts on the left and right for the vast majority of people. In fact any candidate left or right would be destroyed if he went into super detailed policy planks. The only ones that do that are considered kooks by the mainstream media like Ron Paul or Kuchinik (spelling??).

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   17:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Destro (#59) (Edited)

That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in.

The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk.

Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   17:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Destro (#59)

without any link to the African American with slave ancestors

All the more puzzling his links with Wright.

He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America.

Many African immigrants don't.

Yet he did. For political reasons, perhaps his wife's urgings.

What may have been smart in the wards of Chicago, then to win a Senate seat both locally and nationally and then the Dem primary has it's pitfalls with the greater electorate, particularly when Hillary held her fire.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-10   17:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)

The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets.

That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   17:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: swarthyguy (#62)

All the more puzzling his links with Wright.

He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America.

Many African immigrants don't.

That is why I said he is an outsider in his own community, too. He is not an immigrant but son of an immigrant who left him.

Wright is more than likely his wife's choice for a preacher in church. Like many families - women control the religious aspects of the household. Do you think Palin's religous views are the same as her husband's? The guy seems to go along to get along in that house. Even then, I have a low threshold of respect for American Protestant churches and find the white right wing churches the other side of the same coin. White right wing churches routinely say God is damning America - see Katrina and 9/11 for more recent examples.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   18:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)

This Video No Longer Available.

So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#65)

HAHA....Someone else put it back up.

Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec?

You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Old Friend (#66)

She's still a Zionist pig, yes.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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