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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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Views: 1392
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Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment. Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it. So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though. It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out.

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#62. To: Destro (#59)

without any link to the African American with slave ancestors

All the more puzzling his links with Wright.

He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America.

Many African immigrants don't.

Yet he did. For political reasons, perhaps his wife's urgings.

What may have been smart in the wards of Chicago, then to win a Senate seat both locally and nationally and then the Dem primary has it's pitfalls with the greater electorate, particularly when Hillary held her fire.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-10   17:46:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)

The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.

Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets.

That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   17:47:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: swarthyguy (#62)

All the more puzzling his links with Wright.

He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America.

Many African immigrants don't.

That is why I said he is an outsider in his own community, too. He is not an immigrant but son of an immigrant who left him.

Wright is more than likely his wife's choice for a preacher in church. Like many families - women control the religious aspects of the household. Do you think Palin's religous views are the same as her husband's? The guy seems to go along to get along in that house. Even then, I have a low threshold of respect for American Protestant churches and find the white right wing churches the other side of the same coin. White right wing churches routinely say God is damning America - see Katrina and 9/11 for more recent examples.

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Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   18:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)

This Video No Longer Available.

So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:04:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: All (#65)

HAHA....Someone else put it back up.

Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec?

You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:07:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Old Friend (#66)

She's still a Zionist pig, yes.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:10:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: buckeye (#67)

She's still a Zionist pig,

Would Jesus be considered a zionist?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:11:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Old Friend (#68)

Absolutely not.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:12:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: buckeye (#69)

Absolutely not.

What about when he returns?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:14:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Old Friend (#70)

Not even then.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#70)

Obama spoke an absolutely coherent paragraph, comparing W's policies to McCain's. The conclusion being that there was no difference between them, concluding that McCain was attempting to present his policies as something different than W's but all that he was doing was putting lipstick on a pig. It had NOTHING to do with Palin. Palin was not mentioned within that context.

If the McCain people believe it was about Palin maybe it's THEIR dirty minds and this is how THEY see Palin.

I already said this at the top

"Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it."

your behind the curve.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:24:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Old Friend (#72)

So, everyone is in agreement.

It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:25:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

I want that pic on a campaign button!!

That is a money maker. Make some up and set up on a busy corner. You'll be pulling in the money.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:26:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)

It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.

No. I do probably disagree with putting Katie Couric in the ad. I don't think she was talking about Obama when she made that statement.

Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been. So it is fair to put the ad up. Obama is free to put ads up to. He can defend it and call them distorters and liars. Then the people can decide.

Do you think the video should have been removed from youtube?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:28:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ferret Mike (#52)

Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France.

GO LANCE! ;-)

I hope he wins it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:29:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)

Let's be clear...I can't stand McInsane, or Obammy for that matter, but I firmly believe the old kook WILL stomp Obammy...not because of anything he's done...but when the RNC got Palin, they made a BRILLIANT move. This is going to bring on board the sleeping "conservative" base that was not energized by liberal McNasty and the fact she is a woman going to bring on a lot of women voters. I really like what I'm hearing from Palin but I refuse to vote for the crazy one just so she can be VP. I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.

I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   19:31:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Freedomsnotfree (#40)

I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.

Expand on that. You have any ideas?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:31:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: James Deffenbach (#77)

So I don't have anyone to vote for.

Nothing new about that.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:31:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: James Deffenbach (#77)

I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.

I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: christine (#28)

this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country.

a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin

a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud.

wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them."

And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   19:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)

Ok you made your point that you think it is a dirty trick. I have a question for you. Do you think this will sway the election? How much if you think it does. And in what direction will it sway the election? Then one final question. Who do you think is going to win the election? Not who you want to win but who do you think will win?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Old Friend (#82)

It should subtract from whatever credibility the McCain campaign still has left.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:36:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)

It should

Ok you answered only one of those questions. And you never answered above if you think the video should have been removed from youtube.

Back to "it should" Maybe you think "it should" but do you think "it will".

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:37:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: James Deffenbach (#81)

And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:38:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Old Friend (#78)

I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to. Expand on that. You have any ideas?

Well...I'd have to say the Zionists that are hell bent on a world government is a good place to start...you know, those folks occupying positions of power in our government and that little country in the middle east.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   19:40:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Old Friend (#85)

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain.

Not true, although it's been said often in better times. All that voting means is that you brought yourself to participate. It may be that sitting out a vote says more than going in and pulling one of the pre-approved levers. Actually, telling people that they have to vote simply perpetuates the problem. If we all refused to vote, the government would be much more obviously illegitimate. As it is, they can point to the small number of people who do turn out to vote and claim they "represent" the people.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:42:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: James Deffenbach (#77)

...so the 2, er, I mean, 1 party system moves forward. We just THINK we're free.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   19:43:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Old Friend (#0)

"Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment."

Yep, the ObamaNation is flailing around in a hopeless search fer a counter- strategy. And Barry's desperation is leading to more and more mistakes...he ain't quite the Messiah the RAT-Media makes him out to be.

"Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it."

Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary.

"So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though."

I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context.

"It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out."

Yep, the ObamaNation is looking mighty desperate...MUD

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Mudboy Slim  posted on  2008-09-10   19:44:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Old Friend, Mudboy Slim (#89)

Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary.

MBS gives an outstanding endorsement of anything else.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   19:45:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Mudboy Slim (#89)

I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context.

Someone put it back up. HEHE

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Old Friend (#84) (Edited)

I have no idea what Youtube video you're talking about. Was the McCain commercial removed from Youtube? Okay. And? It's supposed to be a PAID commercial. No?

Anyways, WHO removed it? What were the circumstances?

What I REALLY wanted to see on Youtube and I couldn't because they took it out was the video of Jimmi Page and Leona Lewis doing Whole Lotta Love in Beijing.

Ahhhh!!! So it was Katie Couric objecting her being made to look as if she was saying something she did not mean, the way Obama was being made to look as if he was saying something he didn't mean?

I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   19:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)

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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   19:52:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Old Friend (#75)

Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been.

How was this a dirty trick on McCain's part. Whether Obama meant it or not, the audience immediately picked up on the linkage to Palin's speech.

The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2008-09-10   19:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:59:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)

The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.

That never occurred to me.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   19:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)

I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.

It could.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:00:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#61)

The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk.

Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria.

Actually, I met a nice girl from South America and she talked perfect English, not ghetto ebonics. And she didn't whine incessantly about how she had been oppressed and how all white people were devils who kept her down.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: buckeye (#79)

Nothing new about that.

No, sadly enough, that is true.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: Old Friend (#80)

I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.

I have no idea. Don't live there.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:14:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Old Friend (#85)

If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.

I wouldn't waste my time and the gas to go to the polls to vote for establishment candidate A or B since they are both owned by the same people and will do what they are told. Only independent people like Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin, people who haven't sold out, deserve any vote from me 'cause I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils." It is still evil.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:24:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Freedomsnotfree (#88)

We just THINK we're free.

Not all of us think that because we know that Americans are much less "freer" now than our grandparents and their parents were. This article speaks to that very well I think.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   20:33:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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