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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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It's too early in the game to be badly damaged. The MSM needs the ratings associated with a horse race. Sit back, relax, it's all out of your hands. BTW, where is Plugs Biden? Lots has been made of the missing Palin, but Biden, and the very nasty Michelle my Belle, are both MIA.
If she can't stand the heat she should stay out of the kitchen - though as a mother of a young retarded baby she should be at home in the kitchen rather then leaving the child rearing to govt employees like the cook she claimed she fired to save her state money when in reality she just kept reassigning the woman who continued to cook for her family. But GOP bots are stupid creatures who are not able to think much and love manufactured issues to be outraged by. I love how these GOP bots betray their conservative values - the crowd that says the best role for a woman is to be a mother is supporting a woman who just pops them out and then lets the hired help raise the kids on the taxpayers dime.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
Yes it is out of my hands. But the slip ups Obama is making are huge problems. They are screwing up attacking Palin constantly. Also the fact that Obama is black leads me to think he wont be elected. There are a lot of people who don't like blacks. Even democrats. I'm not one of them but there are many and it will have an effect. I don't Obama was calling Palin a pig. I think that is just a common phrase and he used it at a bad time. But it will nevertheless have an impact.
I love how you some think the selection has not already been made and it does not matter which side wins - there is no difference between the two on matters that the Military Industrial Complex cares about. You should ask yourself why the so called independent news is ignoring Biden. I mean all the news media pretty much have the same stories. In Europe I would read 5 or 6 newspapers and each one was different - very little matched how it was reported - different headlines stories - stories that were national news were covered differently in different sections of the newspaper. Here in the states I can pick up papers and they match each other! Listen to the television nightly news and the same stories are presented almost identically in the same order at the same time. I switch back and forth on news shows and they would all lead with the same story, same second news item, same third news item. The human interest story sometimes is different. It is amazing to me that Americans do not see how they are being manipulated.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
What country are you from?
New York. You?
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
It seems the more they attack her, the higher McKooK rises in the "polls." That McCain is even close tells me you might be right. Either way, we lose.
New York would be a state. I asked you what country you come from.
correct.....But honestly speaking. Do you fear one over the other in what they will do to this country. I admit I fear what Obama will do more. I could be wrong maybe Obama is a little better. But this I am sure of. Which ever one is elected will be worse then Bush. The wrong one will win. If I do vote for a major candidate I hope I vote for the loser.
And here I thought I was talking to a conservative. If General Lee was asked what country he was from (or anyone else from his generation before the Civil War) he would have said Virginia.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
What does that have to do with New York not being a country?
Obama might be another LBJ - destroy the nation via social policy while waging war. McCain and Obama both will allow an unrestricted flood of illegals, and McCain will be as vicious as Obama regarding war. The only difference bet. the two is skin color.
Standard response I expect from a zombie. Can't think when confronted with new concepts outside the party line.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
AHHH...a student of history I see. I also, am from the great country of Virginia. :?)
You're not off to a real good start here, Mr NY is a country.
To quote Mr. McCready, a character in V to much better effect then he, Bullocks. McCain with his use of the same common expression, with Obama's use of it long before McCain's choice for his co-loser in this race has over reached his hand. Barack Obama merely has to pluck the ripe fruit of people's weariness of Swift Boat lies and garbage and call McCain's hand. John McCain's hand will fold, and he will lose this election. This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people. There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.
Beastro, how are you doing? Good to see you still out there.
J.T. Not to jump into the middle of the fray but, prior to the war of Northern aggression, each state was recognised as a sovereign, independent, country with it's own individual form of government. Senators, at the time, were basically considered ambassadors to Washington DC and could be recalled at the will of the state. Lincoln, in fact, offered Lee control over the entire northern forces and Lee's response was that he could not go to war against is country. The loss of the war by the south consolidated power in DC and the slide to an all powerful central government started...the very thing the framers warned us about. The southern states were in fact fighting FOR the Constitution and states rights...interesting this isn't taught in school today/s. It would certainly be easy to make the argument that the Constitution of these united states was lost on April 9, 1865.
You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ. And Oh'Bummer's embracing the Mental Hellth State e.g., the Orwellian "New Freedom" Initiative to drug every kid in America on mind control drugs is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Both of the so-called candidates are foul scum, it is just a matter of which one stinks less.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Let's be clear...I can't stand McInsane, or Obammy for that matter, but I firmly believe the old kook WILL stomp Obammy...not because of anything he's done...but when the RNC got Palin, they made a BRILLIANT move. This is going to bring on board the sleeping "conservative" base that was not energized by liberal McNasty and the fact she is a woman going to bring on a lot of women voters. I really like what I'm hearing from Palin but I refuse to vote for the crazy one just so she can be VP. I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.
Do you like what you hear from Bush and Cheney too? Because what I hear from Palin sounds awfully familiar - some blither about how the war in Iraq is a task from God. Seems to me that's exactly the same crap that we've been hearing from the White House for many years now.
Burkeman introduced me to a line of thought that thinks we should vote for the local guys in election, mayor - dog catcher, etc. But when voting do not vote for the presidential office and maybe not even for for the congressman or senator because the federal election system is rigged/controlled and the outcomes are predetermined because almost all elected officials from both parties on a federal level are vetted and in the pocket of the oligarch system that runs the federal govt. I have been voting Libertarian as a 'protest' vote since Clinton but I may start and not vote for anyone in federal office - just the local guys. If this movement grows then it may shake things up when officials see the citizen ignoring all but the local elections.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
There is damage in it. He may not have meant to call her a pig. But the damage is in peoples perception of his words. It will push some people over to McCain. Don't doubt it.
Still kicking.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country. a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud. wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them."
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i think way before that.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
I'm not a big believer in outright vote fraud deciding elections. Why would they bother with such a risky scheme, when the mass media and political parties have narrowed the (non)choice down to two candidates who are equally acceptable to the establishment elites? The basic strategy is to have the party machines and mass media marginalize and black out any candidates who might really shake things up (Ron Paul, etc), all the while making sure that whether you have an R or a D, the powers that be are equally happy. There isn't any need for vote fraud when nobody knows about or gets to vote for anyone other than two candidates that have the right brand name seals of approval.
Good second choice you've made. Me, it'll be a write in for Ron Paul. I just love telling anyone within earshot that I will be writing in Ron Paul. Many reply back that I'll be throwing my vote away or that I'll be helping elect one of the lesser of 2 evils. They invaribably tip their hand on who they support. Most can't even say why they support obanger or mcinsane. I guess it is cause their daddy told them to vote pubby or demonwit. The hell with the real concerns and issues. One of my friends used to own an Isaly's store and restaurant. Every election day he put a sign in the main front window asking passerby's not to vote. The sign said we already had enough crooks in government as it is. He also layed out the former Spotlight newspaper focusing on the governmental corruption. It would be easy to brand him as an anti-semite because he supported the Spotlight and they appeared to be anti-semitic. However, one of his best friens is Jewish. Both are retired and believe it or not, they exchange Christmas cards and visit each other from time to time. When his Jewish friend hits town, his first stop is the synogouge and then on to his friends place for some chatter and good food. I guess we could call them The Odd Couple. Now, if you have a fear of voting for one of the lesser of 2 evils, vote for one of the minority party candidates and help get rid of the garbage.
wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
I hear you FNF, but I suspect our friend Destro is a somewhat 'new' American here to give us lessons on our government.
I want that pic on a campaign button!!
A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates. I think that the best way for them to vent their frustration is by a third party protest vote. However, not voting could be the next best thing. If the day comes when only 20% of eligible voters do so, idiots like Bush can't go around talking about a "mandate."
Or they may have figgered out that sockpuppet A will be about the same as sockpuppet B.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.
R.P. I definitely DON'T like her stance on the war. I think we should mind our own business.
I have no doubt they can sway an election but I'm not convinced they can completely change the outcome of an overwhelming election. At any rate...I'll vote against the establishment's one party system and vote for Ron Paul, if he's on the ticket, or Chuck Baldwin if he's not.
Paul is my first choice if he's on the ballot...if not, Chuck gets the vote. I'm NOT an anti-semite, whatever that means, but I think we need to stop funding Israel, get the Zonists out of our government and let those in the mid-east fight their own wars. I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.
Have you heard about this? " Palin Is Not Snow White This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination. According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively. What Did Palin Say “So Sambo beat the bitch!” It was a direct jab at Obama beating Hillary Clinton....." judicial-inc.biz/89palin_is_not_snow_white.htm If this is true, pray for "Lucille".
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
“So Sambo beat the bitch!” ROTFLOL!
true!...but the Klintons leave a long trail of bodies....and so do the Zionists. That poor waitress might have wanted to keep quiet, but Juneau is a small town, and the temptation to share in the hoopla might have been too much for her. Don't know which puppets the Zionists would prefer at this date, and don't much care. I just hope Lucille doesn't end up in the Channel for her indiscretion.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
It will come to down to this: Who can sell more dolls and superhero toys, Obama or Palin? Right now, Palin dolls and glasses are selling fast, hence the betting odds changing in favor of McCain.
New to this forum or the USA? Or both? I have been in the USA and a citizen as long as I have been alive. Ex GOP party member to - disgusts me I violated Washington's final warning and joined a political party. Oh, wait am I not supposed to know that fact about American history either? GO METS!
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
I just saw Contessa Brewer come completely unhinged on MSNBC-TV. She lost all journalistic "integrity" and was combative, opinionated, and flat out rude in her defense of Obama. I thought I wasn't supposed to know anything about a reporters' personal politics unless they were clearly in an editorial segment of a program???
And they aren't showing the paper around rotten fish comment. Shades of Dukakis. Of course, with "rotten fish", another whole connotation. All in all, he doesn't help his case with this comment. The best defence seems to be is that it ain't much, get over it. But that ignores the reality of perceptions, a dead giveaway being the full defence being employed by this comment, in addition to the race turning into Obama v Palin. The state polls aren't lookin good either!
Lucille had better hide and keep a low profile.
I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.
If she actually said this, it would have been all over the news by now and Mad Mac would be looking for a new running mate. Just gossip mill material, IMO. One thing the MSM does not tolerate in its puppet candidates is political incorrectness, humorous or not.
As you probably recall, Palin got applause at the Republican National Convention when she said that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom (meaning herself) is that the latter wears lipstick. So, is she dissing herself here? There is a double standard at work, and those who buy into a double standard and gimmicks over substance are going to vote the way they will whether or not such a bald attempt at a Swift boat slam dunk is attempted or not. But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race. Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.
Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France. GO LANCE! ;-)
Wow, your old. :)
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race. Obama's opponent is a guy who will continue the policies of a President with a 28% approval rating. If BHO were a halfway competent candidate, he'd be a shoe- in. Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.
It would be great to vote for a third party candidate. If we stay home, the lousy corrupt Constitutional hating twits will believe they have already won and will believe they have a mandate. Vote third party or minority party and vote early and often. Screw these freaking control freaks. Simply ignoring will only embolden them. Let us take the Patrick Henry approach and pledge. " Give us liberty or we'll give you death".
At least two factors are at work here: (1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes. (2) Obama is still (half) black.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
(2) Obama is still (half) black. There's also 3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.
To be more accurate he is half African. His ancestors are not linked to the Africans that arrived to the USA over generations. That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in. I say this not in the way a Rush Limbough type would say it as in Obama adopted black Americans as his own for political purposes like this was planned from the get go. If Obama had grown up in South Africa under aparthied he would have adopted the culture of the 'coloreds' who were the mixed race groups in that system. Society always tries to force you into a group or role based on who you were born to and what you resemble.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
When was the last time this ever happened? Since Kennedy ushered in the TV president - looks and personality are all that counts on the left and right for the vast majority of people. In fact any candidate left or right would be destroyed if he went into super detailed policy planks. The only ones that do that are considered kooks by the mainstream media like Ron Paul or Kuchinik (spelling??).
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk. Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria.
All the more puzzling his links with Wright. He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America. Many African immigrants don't. Yet he did. For political reasons, perhaps his wife's urgings. What may have been smart in the wards of Chicago, then to win a Senate seat both locally and nationally and then the Dem primary has it's pitfalls with the greater electorate, particularly when Hillary held her fire.
Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets. That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.
He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America. Many African immigrants don't. That is why I said he is an outsider in his own community, too. He is not an immigrant but son of an immigrant who left him. Wright is more than likely his wife's choice for a preacher in church. Like many families - women control the religious aspects of the household. Do you think Palin's religous views are the same as her husband's? The guy seems to go along to get along in that house. Even then, I have a low threshold of respect for American Protestant churches and find the white right wing churches the other side of the same coin. White right wing churches routinely say God is damning America - see Katrina and 9/11 for more recent examples.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
This Video No Longer Available. So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.
HAHA....Someone else put it back up. Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec? You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.
She's still a Zionist pig, yes.
Would Jesus be considered a zionist?
Absolutely not.
What about when he returns?
Not even then.
If the McCain people believe it was about Palin maybe it's THEIR dirty minds and this is how THEY see Palin. I already said this at the top "Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it." your behind the curve.
So, everyone is in agreement. It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
That is a money maker. Make some up and set up on a busy corner. You'll be pulling in the money.
No. I do probably disagree with putting Katie Couric in the ad. I don't think she was talking about Obama when she made that statement. Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been. So it is fair to put the ad up. Obama is free to put ads up to. He can defend it and call them distorters and liars. Then the people can decide. Do you think the video should have been removed from youtube?
GO LANCE! ;-) I hope he wins it.
I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Expand on that. You have any ideas?
Nothing new about that.
I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.
a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud. wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them." And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ok you made your point that you think it is a dirty trick. I have a question for you. Do you think this will sway the election? How much if you think it does. And in what direction will it sway the election? Then one final question. Who do you think is going to win the election? Not who you want to win but who do you think will win?
It should subtract from whatever credibility the McCain campaign still has left.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ok you answered only one of those questions. And you never answered above if you think the video should have been removed from youtube. Back to "it should" Maybe you think "it should" but do you think "it will".
If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.
Well...I'd have to say the Zionists that are hell bent on a world government is a good place to start...you know, those folks occupying positions of power in our government and that little country in the middle east.
Not true, although it's been said often in better times. All that voting means is that you brought yourself to participate. It may be that sitting out a vote says more than going in and pulling one of the pre-approved levers. Actually, telling people that they have to vote simply perpetuates the problem. If we all refused to vote, the government would be much more obviously illegitimate. As it is, they can point to the small number of people who do turn out to vote and claim they "represent" the people.
...so the 2, er, I mean, 1 party system moves forward. We just THINK we're free.
"Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment." Yep, the ObamaNation is flailing around in a hopeless search fer a counter- strategy. And Barry's desperation is leading to more and more mistakes...he ain't quite the Messiah the RAT-Media makes him out to be. "Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it." Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary. "So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though." I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context. "It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out." Yep, the ObamaNation is looking mighty desperate...MUD
Devolve Power Outta the Federal Leviathan and Back to the States, MBS gives an outstanding endorsement of anything else.
Someone put it back up. HEHE
I have no idea what Youtube video you're talking about. Was the McCain commercial removed from Youtube? Okay. And? It's supposed to be a PAID commercial. No? Anyways, WHO removed it? What were the circumstances? What I REALLY wanted to see on Youtube and I couldn't because they took it out was the video of Jimmi Page and Leona Lewis doing Whole Lotta Love in Beijing. Ahhhh!!! So it was Katie Couric objecting her being made to look as if she was saying something she did not mean, the way Obama was being made to look as if he was saying something he didn't mean? I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. How was this a dirty trick on McCain's part. Whether Obama meant it or not, the audience immediately picked up on the linkage to Palin's speech. The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
That never occurred to me.
It could.
Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria. Actually, I met a nice girl from South America and she talked perfect English, not ghetto ebonics. And she didn't whine incessantly about how she had been oppressed and how all white people were devils who kept her down.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. No, sadly enough, that is true.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I have no idea. Don't live there.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. I wouldn't waste my time and the gas to go to the polls to vote for establishment candidate A or B since they are both owned by the same people and will do what they are told. Only independent people like Ron Paul or Chuck Baldwin, people who haven't sold out, deserve any vote from me 'cause I don't vote for the "lesser of two evils." It is still evil.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Not all of us think that because we know that Americans are much less "freer" now than our grandparents and their parents were. This article speaks to that very well I think.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Your chicken shit to answer if youtube should have taken the video down. I'll take it that you are an anti free speech communist just like your messiah Obama.
What about voting third party?
I am free. Believe me.
It doesn't give you any more valid option of complaining. It just means that you voted, nothing more. You have a right to complain because you're a citizen. Period.
Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Well yes, relatively speaking if you compare your situation to that of an abject slave with a cruel master, you probably are. But it isn't likely that you are as free as you should be or were intended to be. If you are I can only say good for you and I am glad you made it off the plantation and live in perfect freedom. Do you have directions to the Big Rock Candy Mountains?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. old friend...don't pay your tribute (taxes) to the king and you'll see how free you are. Even the surfs in feudal England where only required to pay 25% tribute to their king...in this country, it's more like 70%.
Obummer knew exactly what he was saying. There's a rumor going around that he got together with that turd James Carville and came up with these snide remarks.
Yes, he's saying that all of the McCain talk is BS. Do you dispute that? Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?' Of course not. It's BS. What other claims is he making? Oh, yes... what is he going to do about 'evil'? He's going to 'defeat it'. BS again. Anything else?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Why are you calling me stupid? You didn't even answer the question. Lets go for the third or fourth time. Should youtube have taken the video down?
I don't know about that. Are you trying to start a rumor?
Pass it around the internet, just give me credit when James Carville has to go on Hannity & Colmes to deny the rumors ;-)
Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out. Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Why would you want to go to the gates of hell anyway?
That's what McCain said. He's BS-ing, big time, all the time.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Like I said, they took out the Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video. That pisses me. But, I AM NOT ASKING YOU TO EXPLAIN Youtube's decision to take THAT out. Do you care to explain Youtube's action regarding Leona Lewis/Jimmi Page video? And, if not, why not? So you can't answer if they should have taken the video down. Instead yougive the excuse that "you can't explain youtubes decision. Then what makes you think you are qualified to explain, or should I say try to explain away each and every of Obamas.
I know he said that. But Palin is hot. ;)
Like I said, taking out McCain's stupid video is YOUR problem. I couldn't care one way or another. What I CARE is their taking out the Leona Lewis/Jimmy Page video. So, if you are going to ask them about the McCain stupid video, maybe you can ask them about the video that I CARE ABOUT. Okay?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Well, since you asked....... Obama On Letterman: 'McCain Policy Is The Pig' Presidential Hopeful Says Media Took His Words And Ran; Defends Bush Policies On Afghanistan, AIDS In Africa NEW YORK (CBS) 53; Presidential hopeful Barack Obama appeared on the "Late Show with David Letterman" in New York on Wednesday after a day of heated debate by media and political pundits over comments some took as a slam against Republican vice-presidential candidate Sarah Palin. Obama spent much of his visit talking about Palin and clarifying his earlier comments. "This is sort of silly season in politics, not that there's a non-silly season, but it gets sillier," Obama said. "And it's a common expression in at least Illinois. I don't know about New York City. I don't know what you put lipstick on here." Obama said to him the expression "lipstick on a pig" in this case applies to having a bad idea and trying to pass it off as change. "Just calling [ideas] change, calling them different doesn't make it better, hence lipstick on a pig," Obama said. He then clarified his statements even more. "Keep in mind, technically, had I meant it this way, [Palin] would be the lipstick. The failed policies of John McCain would be the pig, just following the logic of this illogical situation," Obama said. Earlier in the day, Obama accused Republican McCain's campaign of using "lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics" in claiming he used a sexist comment against Palin. Calling it "the latest made-up controversy by the John McCain campaign," Obama responded to the Republicans' charge that he was referring to Palin when he used the phrase "lipstick on a pig" at a campaign stop Tuesday. "I don't care what they say about me. But I love this country too much to let them take over another election with lies and phony outrage and Swift-boat politics. Enough is enough," he said. During his visit with Letterman, Obama talked about visiting Disneyland, boyhood memories, joking with his 87-year-old grandmother and embarrassing his daughters on their first day back to school. Obama said his grandmother's reaction when he won the nomination was pretty simple: "That's nice, that's nice." Obama praised President George W. Bush's efforts to send aid to countries in Africa. Obama, whose father was Kenyan, visited the African country in 2007. "People there are more energetic and optimistic than you could possibly imagine," said Obama. Regarding rumors of former president Bill Clinton's future as part of an Obama administration cabinet, the senator downplayed that possibility. "If you're a former president, I don't think you settle for a cabinet position," he said. "It's sort of like Mickey Mantle playing AAA (baseball). "There's nobody smarter in politics," Obama said of Bill Clinton. "I think he can be a great advocate for the campaign." (© MMVIII, CBS Broadcasting Inc. All Rights Reserved.) Obama is now coming up with meanings to what he said. He ad libbed his pig comment. Now trying to say there was some meaning to it seems like he is lying.
That's funny.
Hells yes, and Randall could make that Palin bitch bark like a circus seal.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
You can bet not. She's proud to be thought of as a "pit-bull".
You're very perceptive.
You're very perceptive. And so are you !
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Which comment no one seems to be talking about..... Fish comments made in reference to women just aren't sushi.
Obanger is in danger of losing the black vote. He has promised them all jobs.
Just got this email. No I did't donate. They're Getting Desperate The vicious smears on Gov. Sarah Palin are out of control. They're attacking her family, her faith, her experience, and even her hair. And here's what Barack Obama said today in what some view as a not-so-subtle reference to John McCain's running mate: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig." ("Obama, Dems sharpen personal attacks on Palin," Jim Vandehei & Mike Allen, Politico, 9/9/08) Just yesterday, Obama was mocking her as a "moose shooter." It's clearly panic time for the Democrats. These disgusting, chauvinist comments have no place in our politics. Help us defend Gov. Palin and her family by contributing $25, $50, $100 or $500 today. While the media and the Democrats attack, our volunteer activity is going through the roof, and the enthusiasm for the McCain-Palin ticket across Ohio has been phenomenal. As I write this, we're adding new staff to accommodate the surge of support. Help us keep the momentum going! We need critical funds for television ads, candidate mail, phone calls and slate cards. Donate $25, $50, $100 or $500 right now with a secure, online contribution. Tell the Democrats you're tired of their smears on Gov. Palin. Enough is enough. Let's win this thing. Kay Ayres Vice Chair Ohio Republican Party
Fish comments made in reference to women just aren't sushi. Tends to make me think there might have been some subliminal intentions.
Michael Savage pointed out the other night that Obama is really screwed-up due to his mother dumping him off at least twice while she whored herself around the world. For once, Savage made a good observation.
Oh savage has made more then one good observation hasn't he?
just like her hero the Chimp who once called himself a "pit bull on the pants leg of opportunity."
I Like your tagline.
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
Agreed.
I think Savage gets most of it right ... exception being his total support of the war and Israel. [I don't know of any talk radio host that utters a peep in opposition to the State of Israel ... not one].
"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."
A couple, if you can sift through the psychotic rants.....but that's my bias showing.... ;-)
#2. To: Old Friend, burkeman1 (#0)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
Sit back, relax, it's all out of your hands.
#4. To: Jethro Tull, Burkeman1 (#1)
BTW, where is Plugs Biden? L
#5. To: Destro (#4)
It is amazing to me that Americans do not see how they are being manipulated.
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)
What country are you from?
#7. To: Old Friend (#3)
#8. To: Destro (#6)
#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)
Either way, we lose.
#10. To: Jethro Tull, burkeman1 (#8)
New York would be a state. I asked you what country you come from.
#11. To: Destro (#10)
#12. To: Old Friend (#9)
#13. To: Jethro Tull (#1)
A perfect mascot for McCain/Palin: "one head, two mouths, two noses and three eyes."
#14. To: angle (#13)
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#11)
#16. To: Destro (#10)
And here I thought I was talking to a conservative. If General Lee was asked what country he was from (or anyone else from his generation before the Civil War) he would have said Virginia
#17. To: Destro (#15)
#18. To: Old Friend (#0)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#19. To: Destro (#2)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people.
#22. To: Original_Intent, Ferret Mike, wudidiz (#21)
Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.
#23. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
#24. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)
(Edited)
I really like what I'm hearing from Palin
#25. To: Freedomsnotfree, Ferret Mike, burkeman1 (#23)
#26. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.
#27. To: Ferret Mike (#19)
#28. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
This election is the people's choice to make.
#29. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#21)
You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.
#30. To: Original_Intent, christine, Ferret Mike (#21)
You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.
#31. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)
I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.
#32. To: Rupert_Pupkin, LACUMO (#30)
(Edited)
#33. To: Freedomsnotfree, Destro (#20)
(Edited)
#34. To: angle (#13)
#35. To: Jethro Tull, angle (#34)
I want that pic on a campaign button!!
#36. To: christine (#32)
#37. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#36)
A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates.
#38. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)
#39. To: Destro (#25)
#40. To: LACUMO (#31)
#41. To: Old Friend (#0)
#42. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Old Friend (#41)
What Did Palin Say
#43. To: TwentyTwelve (#42)
ROTFLOL!
#44. To: Original_Intent (#21)
You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.
#45. To: Jethro Tull, Freedomsnotfree (#33)
I hear you FNF, but I suspect our friend Destro is a somewhat 'new' American here to give us lessons on our government.
#46. To: Old Friend (#0)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#47. To: Old Friend (#0)
#48. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)
I just hope Lucille doesn't end up in the Channel for her indiscretion.
#49. To: Destro (#45)
GO METS!
#50. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#41)
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”
#51. To: Old Friend (#26)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
(Edited)
But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.
#55. To: christine (#32)
wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.
#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
#57. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.
#58. To: Sam Houston (#56)
(1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.
#59. To: Sam Houston (#56)
(2) Obama is still (half) black.
#60. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#58)
3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.
#61. To: Destro (#59)
(Edited)
That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in.
#62. To: Destro (#59)
without any link to the African American with slave ancestors
#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)
The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.
#64. To: swarthyguy (#62)
All the more puzzling his links with Wright.
#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)
#66. To: All (#65)
#67. To: Old Friend (#66)
#68. To: buckeye (#67)
She's still a Zionist pig,
#69. To: Old Friend (#68)
#70. To: buckeye (#69)
Absolutely not.
#71. To: Old Friend (#70)
#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#70)
Obama spoke an absolutely coherent paragraph, comparing W's policies to McCain's. The conclusion being that there was no difference between them, concluding that McCain was attempting to present his policies as something different than W's but all that he was doing was putting lipstick on a pig. It had NOTHING to do with Palin. Palin was not mentioned within that context.
#73. To: Old Friend (#72)
#74. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
I want that pic on a campaign button!!
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#52)
Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France.
#77. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)
Let's be clear...I can't stand McInsane, or Obammy for that matter, but I firmly believe the old kook WILL stomp Obammy...not because of anything he's done...but when the RNC got Palin, they made a BRILLIANT move. This is going to bring on board the sleeping "conservative" base that was not energized by liberal McNasty and the fact she is a woman going to bring on a lot of women voters. I really like what I'm hearing from Palin but I refuse to vote for the crazy one just so she can be VP. I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.
Lord Acton
#78. To: Freedomsnotfree (#40)
I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.
#79. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
So I don't have anyone to vote for.
#80. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.
#81. To: christine (#28)
this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country.
Lord Acton
#82. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
#83. To: Old Friend (#82)
#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)
It should
#85. To: James Deffenbach (#81)
And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."
#86. To: Old Friend (#78)
I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to. Expand on that. You have any ideas?
#87. To: Old Friend (#85)
If you don't vote you shouldn't complain.
#88. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
#89. To: Old Friend (#0)
Localities, and Individuals as Prescribed in the U.S. Constitution!!
#90. To: Old Friend, Mudboy Slim (#89)
Your instincts are correct, Old Friend...PerkyKatie's comment was in relation to the Obamagasmic RAT-Media's attacks on the Hildabeast during the RAT Primary.
#91. To: Mudboy Slim (#89)
I heard YouTube quickly pulled the ad due to a CBS complaint of copyright infringement for using Katie's comment out of context.
#92. To: Old Friend (#84)
(Edited)
#93. To: TwentyTwelve (#57)
Lord Acton
#94. To: Old Friend (#75)
Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been.
#95. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)
#96. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)
The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
#97. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)
I can tell you, the McCains are a little bit TOO cute. It may backfire.
#98. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#61)
The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk.
Lord Acton
#99. To: buckeye (#79)
Nothing new about that.
Lord Acton
#100. To: Old Friend (#80)
I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.
Lord Acton
#101. To: Old Friend (#85)
If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.
Lord Acton
#102. To: Freedomsnotfree (#88)
We just THINK we're free.
Lord Acton
#103. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#92)
#104. To: buckeye (#87)
Not true, although it's been said often in better times. All that voting means is that you brought yourself to participate. It may be that sitting out a vote says more than going in and pulling one of the pre-approved levers.
#105. To: James Deffenbach (#102)
We just THINK we're free.
#106. To: Old Friend (#104)
What about voting third party?
#107. To: Old Friend (#103)
#108. To: Old Friend (#105)
I am free. Believe me.
Lord Acton
#109. To: Old Friend (#105)
I am free. Believe me
#110. To: Old Friend, Sonovademocrat (#96)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#111. To: X-15 (#110)
(Edited)
#112. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#107)
Look, stupid, Youtube takes down ten thousand videos every single day. This one was one of ten thousand. If you want to do something interesting, tell everyone WHY Youtube took this stupid political commercial out.
#113. To: X-15 (#110)
There's a rumor going around that he got together with that turd James Carville and came up with these snide remarks.
#114. To: Old Friend (#113)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#115. To: Old Friend (#112)
#116. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#111)
Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?' Of course not. It's BS.
#117. To: Old Friend (#116)
#118. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#115)
Why are you asking me? Last time I checked Youtube is a private company not a public service utility. Ask them and try to figure out why did they take it out.
#119. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#117)
That's what McCain said. He's BS-ing, big time, all the time.
#120. To: Old Friend (#118)
#121. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Old Friend (#111)
Do you REALLY believe that McCain is going to 'follow Ben Ladin to the gates of Hell?
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#122. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#120)
NOW THERE IS THIS
#123. To: X-15 (#121)
#124. To: X-15 (#121)
Americans want a Dante-esque President
#125. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
is she dissing herself here?
#126. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)
The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
#127. To: angle (#126)
The real sexism was when Obama added the part about something smelling like a rotten fish.
#128. To: Sonovademocrat (#94)
#129. To: christine, Rupert Pupkin.All (#32)
vote third party.
#130. To: christine (#28)
#131. To: swarthyguy (#128)
Which comment no one seems to be talking about.....
#132. To: Sonovademocrat (#131)
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#133. To: X-15 (#132)
For once, Savage made a good observation.
#134. To: angle (#125)
"You can bet not. She's proud to be thought of as a "pit-bull"."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#135. To: Ferret Mike (#134)
#136. To: noone222, Ferret Mike (#135)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#137. To: Old Friend (#133)
#138. To: Old Friend (#133)
Oh savage has made more then one good observation hasn't he?
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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