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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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Views: 1613
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Obama made a huge mistake in my view with the pig comment. Now McCain has a new ad out that is gong to cream Obama. Women will be upset by this i'm sure. Rightly or wrongly. I do have one question about this ad though. Maybe some of you can help me out. There is a comment by Katie Couric and she talks about sexism. Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it. So it is a little disingenuous on the McCains camps part to put that part in the ad. I'm sure it will be quite effective though. It seems like Obama is losing it with these new poll numbers that are coming out.

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#1. To: Old Friend (#0)

It's too early in the game to be badly damaged. The MSM needs the ratings associated with a horse race. Sit back, relax, it's all out of your hands. BTW, where is Plugs Biden? Lots has been made of the missing Palin, but Biden, and the very nasty Michelle my Belle, are both MIA.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Old Friend, burkeman1 (#0)

If she can't stand the heat she should stay out of the kitchen - though as a mother of a young retarded baby she should be at home in the kitchen rather then leaving the child rearing to govt employees like the cook she claimed she fired to save her state money when in reality she just kept reassigning the woman who continued to cook for her family.

But GOP bots are stupid creatures who are not able to think much and love manufactured issues to be outraged by. I love how these GOP bots betray their conservative values - the crowd that says the best role for a woman is to be a mother is supporting a woman who just pops them out and then lets the hired help raise the kids on the taxpayers dime.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   9:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

Sit back, relax, it's all out of your hands.

Yes it is out of my hands.

But the slip ups Obama is making are huge problems. They are screwing up attacking Palin constantly. Also the fact that Obama is black leads me to think he wont be elected. There are a lot of people who don't like blacks. Even democrats. I'm not one of them but there are many and it will have an effect.

I don't Obama was calling Palin a pig. I think that is just a common phrase and he used it at a bad time. But it will nevertheless have an impact.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   9:35:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull, Burkeman1 (#1)

BTW, where is Plugs Biden? L

I love how you some think the selection has not already been made and it does not matter which side wins - there is no difference between the two on matters that the Military Industrial Complex cares about.

You should ask yourself why the so called independent news is ignoring Biden. I mean all the news media pretty much have the same stories. In Europe I would read 5 or 6 newspapers and each one was different - very little matched how it was reported - different headlines stories - stories that were national news were covered differently in different sections of the newspaper.

Here in the states I can pick up papers and they match each other! Listen to the television nightly news and the same stories are presented almost identically in the same order at the same time. I switch back and forth on news shows and they would all lead with the same story, same second news item, same third news item. The human interest story sometimes is different.

It is amazing to me that Americans do not see how they are being manipulated.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   9:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Destro (#4)

It is amazing to me that Americans do not see how they are being manipulated.

What country are you from?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Jethro Tull (#5)

What country are you from?

New York. You?

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   9:45:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Old Friend (#3)

It seems the more they attack her, the higher McKooK rises in the "polls." That McCain is even close tells me you might be right. Either way, we lose.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:45:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Destro (#6)

New York would be a state. I asked you what country you come from.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:46:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#7)

Either way, we lose.

correct.....But honestly speaking. Do you fear one over the other in what they will do to this country. I admit I fear what Obama will do more. I could be wrong maybe Obama is a little better. But this I am sure of. Which ever one is elected will be worse then Bush. The wrong one will win. If I do vote for a major candidate I hope I vote for the loser.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   9:48:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Jethro Tull, burkeman1 (#8)

New York would be a state. I asked you what country you come from.

And here I thought I was talking to a conservative. If General Lee was asked what country he was from (or anyone else from his generation before the Civil War) he would have said Virginia.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   9:50:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Destro (#10)

What does that have to do with New York not being a country?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:56:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Old Friend (#9)

Obama might be another LBJ - destroy the nation via social policy while waging war. McCain and Obama both will allow an unrestricted flood of illegals, and McCain will be as vicious as Obama regarding war. The only difference bet. the two is skin color.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   9:59:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

A perfect mascot for McCain/Palin: "one head, two mouths, two noses and three eyes."

angle  posted on  2008-09-10   10:14:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: angle (#13)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   10:25:46 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

Standard response I expect from a zombie. Can't think when confronted with new concepts outside the party line.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   10:27:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Destro (#10)

And here I thought I was talking to a conservative. If General Lee was asked what country he was from (or anyone else from his generation before the Civil War) he would have said Virginia

AHHH...a student of history I see. I also, am from the great country of Virginia. :?)

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   11:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Destro (#15)

You're not off to a real good start here, Mr NY is a country.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   11:11:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Old Friend (#0)

To quote Mr. McCready, a character in V to much better effect then he, Bullocks.

McCain with his use of the same common expression, with Obama's use of it long before McCain's choice for his co-loser in this race has over reached his hand.

Barack Obama merely has to pluck the ripe fruit of people's weariness of Swift Boat lies and garbage and call McCain's hand.

John McCain's hand will fold, and he will lose this election.

This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people.

There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   11:48:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Destro (#2)

Beastro, how are you doing? Good to see you still out there.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-10   11:50:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

J.T.

Not to jump into the middle of the fray but, prior to the war of Northern aggression, each state was recognised as a sovereign, independent, country with it's own individual form of government. Senators, at the time, were basically considered ambassadors to Washington DC and could be recalled at the will of the state.

Lincoln, in fact, offered Lee control over the entire northern forces and Lee's response was that he could not go to war against is country.

The loss of the war by the south consolidated power in DC and the slide to an all powerful central government started...the very thing the framers warned us about. The southern states were in fact fighting FOR the Constitution and states rights...interesting this isn't taught in school today/s. It would certainly be easy to make the argument that the Constitution of these united states was lost on April 9, 1865.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   11:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

This election is the people's choice to make. Not McCain's, not Bush's, not Carl Rowe's or any other manipulative wannabe who operates to get their way by dividing people.

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

And Oh'Bummer's embracing the Mental Hellth State e.g., the Orwellian "New Freedom" Initiative to drug every kid in America on mind control drugs is not exactly a ringing endorsement. Both of the so-called candidates are foul scum, it is just a matter of which one stinks less.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-10   11:59:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent, Ferret Mike, wudidiz (#21)

Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   12:04:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

Let's be clear...I can't stand McInsane, or Obammy for that matter, but I firmly believe the old kook WILL stomp Obammy...not because of anything he's done...but when the RNC got Palin, they made a BRILLIANT move. This is going to bring on board the sleeping "conservative" base that was not energized by liberal McNasty and the fact she is a woman going to bring on a lot of women voters. I really like what I'm hearing from Palin but I refuse to vote for the crazy one just so she can be VP. I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   12:07:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23) (Edited)

I really like what I'm hearing from Palin

Do you like what you hear from Bush and Cheney too? Because what I hear from Palin sounds awfully familiar - some blither about how the war in Iraq is a task from God. Seems to me that's exactly the same crap that we've been hearing from the White House for many years now.

n ews.yahoo.com/story//ap/..._el_pr/cvn_palin_iraq_war

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   12:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Freedomsnotfree, Ferret Mike, burkeman1 (#23)

Burkeman introduced me to a line of thought that thinks we should vote for the local guys in election, mayor - dog catcher, etc. But when voting do not vote for the presidential office and maybe not even for for the congressman or senator because the federal election system is rigged/controlled and the outcomes are predetermined because almost all elected officials from both parties on a federal level are vetted and in the pocket of the oligarch system that runs the federal govt.

I have been voting Libertarian as a 'protest' vote since Clinton but I may start and not vote for anyone in federal office - just the local guys. If this movement grows then it may shake things up when officials see the citizen ignoring all but the local elections.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   12:27:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

There is no damage in this remark, only in the phony and contrived reaction to it that is so transparent to everybody.

There is damage in it. He may not have meant to call her a pig. But the damage is in peoples perception of his words. It will push some people over to McCain. Don't doubt it.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   12:28:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Ferret Mike (#19)

Still kicking.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-10   12:29:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

This election is the people's choice to make.

this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country.

a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin

a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud.

wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them."

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:30:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#21)

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

i think way before that.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:34:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent, christine, Ferret Mike (#21)

You are very naive Mike. Of course this (s)Election will be decided by image and manipulation (and vote fraud) - just as they have all been since LBJ.

I'm not a big believer in outright vote fraud deciding elections.

Why would they bother with such a risky scheme, when the mass media and political parties have narrowed the (non)choice down to two candidates who are equally acceptable to the establishment elites?

The basic strategy is to have the party machines and mass media marginalize and black out any candidates who might really shake things up (Ron Paul, etc), all the while making sure that whether you have an R or a D, the powers that be are equally happy. There isn't any need for vote fraud when nobody knows about or gets to vote for anyone other than two candidates that have the right brand name seals of approval.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   12:39:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)

I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.

Good second choice you've made. Me, it'll be a write in for Ron Paul.

I just love telling anyone within earshot that I will be writing in Ron Paul. Many reply back that I'll be throwing my vote away or that I'll be helping elect one of the lesser of 2 evils. They invaribably tip their hand on who they support. Most can't even say why they support obanger or mcinsane. I guess it is cause their daddy told them to vote pubby or demonwit. The hell with the real concerns and issues.

One of my friends used to own an Isaly's store and restaurant. Every election day he put a sign in the main front window asking passerby's not to vote. The sign said we already had enough crooks in government as it is. He also layed out the former Spotlight newspaper focusing on the governmental corruption.

It would be easy to brand him as an anti-semite because he supported the Spotlight and they appeared to be anti-semitic. However, one of his best friens is Jewish. Both are retired and believe it or not, they exchange Christmas cards and visit each other from time to time. When his Jewish friend hits town, his first stop is the synogouge and then on to his friends place for some chatter and good food. I guess we could call them The Odd Couple.

Now, if you have a fear of voting for one of the lesser of 2 evils, vote for one of the minority party candidates and help get rid of the garbage.

LACUMO  posted on  2008-09-10   12:41:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rupert_Pupkin, LACUMO (#30) (Edited)

wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-10   12:47:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Freedomsnotfree, Destro (#20) (Edited)

I hear you FNF, but I suspect our friend Destro is a somewhat 'new' American here to give us lessons on our government.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   12:54:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: angle (#13)

I want that pic on a campaign button!!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   12:57:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull, angle (#34)

I want that pic on a campaign button!!

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   13:00:23 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: christine (#32)

A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates.

I think that the best way for them to vent their frustration is by a third party protest vote. However, not voting could be the next best thing. If the day comes when only 20% of eligible voters do so, idiots like Bush can't go around talking about a "mandate."

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-10   13:09:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#36)

A lot of people who don't vote, far from being uninformed or not caring, do so out of frustration with the candidates.

Or they may have figgered out that sockpuppet A will be about the same as sockpuppet B.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-10   13:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#24)

R.P.

I definitely DON'T like her stance on the war. I think we should mind our own business.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Destro (#25)

I have no doubt they can sway an election but I'm not convinced they can completely change the outcome of an overwhelming election. At any rate...I'll vote against the establishment's one party system and vote for Ron Paul, if he's on the ticket, or Chuck Baldwin if he's not.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: LACUMO (#31)

Paul is my first choice if he's on the ballot...if not, Chuck gets the vote. I'm NOT an anti-semite, whatever that means, but I think we need to stop funding Israel, get the Zonists out of our government and let those in the mid-east fight their own wars. I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.

Freedomsnotfree  posted on  2008-09-10   13:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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