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Title: Obama really screwed up with his PIG comment....Game Over...Checkmate
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Campaign ad
Post Date: 2008-09-10 09:07:33 by Old Friend
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#46. To: Old Friend (#0)
I just saw Contessa Brewer come completely unhinged on MSNBC-TV. She lost all journalistic "integrity" and was combative, opinionated, and flat out rude in her defense of Obama. I thought I wasn't supposed to know anything about a reporters' personal politics unless they were clearly in an editorial segment of a program???
And they aren't showing the paper around rotten fish comment. Shades of Dukakis. Of course, with "rotten fish", another whole connotation. All in all, he doesn't help his case with this comment. The best defence seems to be is that it ain't much, get over it. But that ignores the reality of perceptions, a dead giveaway being the full defence being employed by this comment, in addition to the race turning into Obama v Palin. The state polls aren't lookin good either!
Lucille had better hide and keep a low profile.
I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.
If she actually said this, it would have been all over the news by now and Mad Mac would be looking for a new running mate. Just gossip mill material, IMO. One thing the MSM does not tolerate in its puppet candidates is political incorrectness, humorous or not.
As you probably recall, Palin got applause at the Republican National Convention when she said that the only difference between a pit bull and a hockey mom (meaning herself) is that the latter wears lipstick. So, is she dissing herself here? There is a double standard at work, and those who buy into a double standard and gimmicks over substance are going to vote the way they will whether or not such a bald attempt at a Swift boat slam dunk is attempted or not. But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race. Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race.
Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France. GO LANCE! ;-)
Wow, your old. :)
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
Nothing has happened that I didn't expect, and Obama has yet to suffer more then the usual scrapes and bumps all candidates suffer in such a race. Obama's opponent is a guy who will continue the policies of a President with a 28% approval rating. If BHO were a halfway competent candidate, he'd be a shoe- in. Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.
It would be great to vote for a third party candidate. If we stay home, the lousy corrupt Constitutional hating twits will believe they have already won and will believe they have a mandate. Vote third party or minority party and vote early and often. Screw these freaking control freaks. Simply ignoring will only embolden them. Let us take the Patrick Henry approach and pledge. " Give us liberty or we'll give you death".
At least two factors are at work here: (1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes. (2) Obama is still (half) black.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
(2) Obama is still (half) black. There's also 3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.
To be more accurate he is half African. His ancestors are not linked to the Africans that arrived to the USA over generations. That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in. I say this not in the way a Rush Limbough type would say it as in Obama adopted black Americans as his own for political purposes like this was planned from the get go. If Obama had grown up in South Africa under aparthied he would have adopted the culture of the 'coloreds' who were the mixed race groups in that system. Society always tries to force you into a group or role based on who you were born to and what you resemble.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
When was the last time this ever happened? Since Kennedy ushered in the TV president - looks and personality are all that counts on the left and right for the vast majority of people. In fact any candidate left or right would be destroyed if he went into super detailed policy planks. The only ones that do that are considered kooks by the mainstream media like Ron Paul or Kuchinik (spelling??).
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
The blacks I've known who are actually from Africa usually don't have the attitude problems typical of American blacks. They don't generally play the victim card or use their race as an excuse for their lot in life, at least not to the degree that US blacks who learned to play the race card before they could walk. Maybe South Africans are different, the ones I've met have been from Kenya or Nigeria.
All the more puzzling his links with Wright. He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America. Many African immigrants don't. Yet he did. For political reasons, perhaps his wife's urgings. What may have been smart in the wards of Chicago, then to win a Senate seat both locally and nationally and then the Dem primary has it's pitfalls with the greater electorate, particularly when Hillary held her fire.
Usually, the rich have to choose between their PC-liberal social views and their wallets. That could be why the mass media likes Mad Mac so much, he supports PC causes like amnesty for illegal aliens, but also promises to give the rich their tax break.
He had no need to subscribe to the narrative of Black America. Many African immigrants don't. That is why I said he is an outsider in his own community, too. He is not an immigrant but son of an immigrant who left him. Wright is more than likely his wife's choice for a preacher in church. Like many families - women control the religious aspects of the household. Do you think Palin's religous views are the same as her husband's? The guy seems to go along to get along in that house. Even then, I have a low threshold of respect for American Protestant churches and find the white right wing churches the other side of the same coin. White right wing churches routinely say God is damning America - see Katrina and 9/11 for more recent examples.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
This Video No Longer Available. So much for freedom of speech. Obamas people are undoubtedly behind this. I wonder if McCain is censoring videos too.
HAHA....Someone else put it back up. Christine could you put this link in the article if you get a chanec? You can keep the old link up also in order to show that it was censored. Please.
She's still a Zionist pig, yes.
Would Jesus be considered a zionist?
Absolutely not.
What about when he returns?
Not even then.
If the McCain people believe it was about Palin maybe it's THEIR dirty minds and this is how THEY see Palin. I already said this at the top "Was she talking about Obama's pig comment. I kind of doubt it." your behind the curve.
So, everyone is in agreement. It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
That is a money maker. Make some up and set up on a busy corner. You'll be pulling in the money.
No. I do probably disagree with putting Katie Couric in the ad. I don't think she was talking about Obama when she made that statement. Obama could have been calling her a pig indirectly. I don't think he was, but he may have been. So it is fair to put the ad up. Obama is free to put ads up to. He can defend it and call them distorters and liars. Then the people can decide. Do you think the video should have been removed from youtube?
GO LANCE! ;-) I hope he wins it.
I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Expand on that. You have any ideas?
Nothing new about that.
I may vote Baldwin. Is he on the ballot in Ohio? I assumed he was. I'll have to check that sometime.
a truism: "It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes." ~Stalin a vote for one or the other branch of the establishment party only serves to enable the ongoing fraud. wudiziz's friend said this. sage, imo. "Don't vote. It only encourages them." And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Ok you made your point that you think it is a dirty trick. I have a question for you. Do you think this will sway the election? How much if you think it does. And in what direction will it sway the election? Then one final question. Who do you think is going to win the election? Not who you want to win but who do you think will win?
It should subtract from whatever credibility the McCain campaign still has left.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Ok you answered only one of those questions. And you never answered above if you think the video should have been removed from youtube. Back to "it should" Maybe you think "it should" but do you think "it will".
If you don't vote you shouldn't complain. Because you have nothing to complain about. You can't complain because the wrong guy got in there. You can't complain that they stole your vote.
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#47. To: Old Friend (#0)
#48. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)
I just hope Lucille doesn't end up in the Channel for her indiscretion.
#49. To: Destro (#45)
GO METS!
#50. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#41)
“So Sambo beat the bitch!”
#51. To: Old Friend (#26)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#52. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#53. To: Jethro Tull (#49)
I went to somewhere North of 30 home games during the miracle year of 1969.
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#51)
(Edited)
But I do think that this being such a clear case of false indignation will hurt McCain with swing voters. We differ on our take on this, but I have not wavered in the slightest bit in my confidence in Obama winning this race.
#55. To: christine (#32)
wouldn't it be great though if we all stayed home en masse or do what LAC and many others are doing, vote third party. i know it's a pipe dream because there are too many who benefit monetarily, etc with the system in place.
#56. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
#57. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#54)
Anyone running against George W. Bush's third term ought to be ahead in the polls by wide double digits. Instead, Obummer and Mad Mac are in dead heat, with Mad Mac actually ahead in most polls. That doesn't say very much about Obama's candidacy.
#58. To: Sam Houston (#56)
(1) The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.
#59. To: Sam Houston (#56)
(2) Obama is still (half) black.
#60. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#58)
3) Talk about "HOPE...CHANGE...YES WE CAN" worked for his early pep rallies, but it wears really thin. Some of his supporters wanted to hear some policy substance, and there isn't any to be had.
#61. To: Destro (#59)
(Edited)
That is the curious (neither good or bad) about Obama - he was an outsider all round. He was outsider even within the black community because he is a first generation African without any link to the African American with slave ancestors and the culture they produced. That is why it may seem he can move beyond Black politics - they really are not his people per say even though America's culture kind of pigeon holes him as part of the group - a group he adopted late in life to fit in.
#62. To: Destro (#59)
without any link to the African American with slave ancestors
#63. To: Sam Houston (#56)
The corporate media, including 99 percent of the overpaid anchors, are for the GOP because of tax policy issues. They have a personal stake in not being taxed at higher rates plus their corporate bosses have even bigger stakes.
#64. To: swarthyguy (#62)
All the more puzzling his links with Wright.
#65. To: Rupert_Pupkin, Christine, Jethro Tull, Ferret Mike, (#63)
#66. To: All (#65)
#67. To: Old Friend (#66)
#68. To: buckeye (#67)
She's still a Zionist pig,
#69. To: Old Friend (#68)
#70. To: buckeye (#69)
Absolutely not.
#71. To: Old Friend (#70)
#72. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#70)
Obama spoke an absolutely coherent paragraph, comparing W's policies to McCain's. The conclusion being that there was no difference between them, concluding that McCain was attempting to present his policies as something different than W's but all that he was doing was putting lipstick on a pig. It had NOTHING to do with Palin. Palin was not mentioned within that context.
#73. To: Old Friend (#72)
#74. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
I want that pic on a campaign button!!
#75. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
It's all a dirty trick from the McCains.
#76. To: Ferret Mike (#52)
Lance is back and going to race next year's Tour De France.
#77. To: Freedomsnotfree (#23)
Let's be clear...I can't stand McInsane, or Obammy for that matter, but I firmly believe the old kook WILL stomp Obammy...not because of anything he's done...but when the RNC got Palin, they made a BRILLIANT move. This is going to bring on board the sleeping "conservative" base that was not energized by liberal McNasty and the fact she is a woman going to bring on a lot of women voters. I really like what I'm hearing from Palin but I refuse to vote for the crazy one just so she can be VP. I REFUSE to vote for the lessor of 2 evils...so I'm be voting for the person that BEST reflects my views...Chuck Baldwin, and NO, I'm NOT throwing away my vote.
Lord Acton
#78. To: Freedomsnotfree (#40)
I also have some real interest in who Rev.2:9 & Rev.3:9 is referring to.
#79. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
So I don't have anyone to vote for.
#80. To: James Deffenbach (#77)
I would vote for Chuck Baldwin too but the Constitution Party didn't make the ballot where I live and they don't count write ins. So I don't have anyone to vote for.
#81. To: christine (#28)
this is where we majorly part company. yeah, the people are given a choice in the first place with puppet A or puppet B both controlled by CorporationUSA. in the second place, we have more than enough evidence of massive vote fraud which has occurred for decades in this country.
Lord Acton
#82. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#73)
#83. To: Old Friend (#82)
#84. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#83)
It should
#85. To: James Deffenbach (#81)
And someone else wisely said, "Don't vote, it only encourages the bastards."
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