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Title: Anyone who actually BELIEVES that Obama was talking about Palin when he said 'lipstick on a pig' is a complete moron
Source: Me
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Published: Sep 10, 2008
Author: Me
Post Date: 2008-09-10 19:10:11 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 1234
Comments: 69

I just heard Obama talking. When he said 'you put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig, you wrap a fish in a nice wrapper and it still stinks' he was clearly and absolutely talking about McCain's recycling W's policies. It had nothing to do with Sarah 'the pitbull (pig, snake)' Palin.

I dare anyone to post the exact quote of what Obama said and then interpret it in ways that implies that Obama calls Pain (the pig) a pig.

In other news, Ron Paul said if anyone who supported him and is now thinking about voting for McCain, he must be a moron.

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#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#15)

My friend, McCain's fortunes do not concern me one bit.

That isn't my question.

Has the Palin choice helped McCain to this point?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   20:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Old Friend (#29)
(Edited)

More to the point, I'm afraid of another 8 years of hell. There has not been a more destructive president that I can remember than Bush. McCain promises to be much worse.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   20:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

And, again, McCain's fortunes are not my concern. Has her choice helped you?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   20:51:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Anyone who actually BELIEVES that Obama was talking about Palin when he said 'lipstick on a pig' is a complete moron

Anyone who actually CARES whether Obama was talking about Palin when he said 'lipstick on a pig' is a complete moron

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-09-10   20:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

Has the Palin choice helped McCain to this point?

It flipped the election. IMO

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:51:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#32)

And, again, McCain's fortunes are not my concern. Has her choice helped you?

Your afraid to admit what we all know is true. Why is that?

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:52:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Old Friend (#34)

It flipped the election. IMO

Yeah, obama is now leading in the polls.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-10   20:53:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Sonovademocrat (#27)

Obama made the statement being debated, his supporters picked up on the interpretation

Whatever... I am not concerned with crowds reactions. The FACT is that Obama did NOT call Palin a pig. The other fact is that the McCains are acting outraged at Obama's calling Palin a pig. They are attacking Obama not..., Obama's supporters.

They lie.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   20:54:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ninpo (#36)

Yeah, obama is now leading in the polls.

Yesterday he was down by as much as 15 points among independents. Down 10 for white women. He had carried both of those groups. Show me a poll that changed since yesterday. I don't believe you.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   20:55:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Old Friend (#35)

I am afraid of a few things but this is not one of them.

From 'day one' I noted that McCain is using Palin as a prop and that Palin is cooperating. Do you need more explanations?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   20:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#37)

I am not concerned with crowds reactions.

Obviously Obama wasn't concerned with it either. I wonder why.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2008-09-10   20:57:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Old Friend (#34) (Edited)

Anyone would have to admit that his choosing her has been a huge help. How long it stands up, who knows, and for me at least the larger story is the socialization of FMae and FMac. Neither McCain nor Obama have bothered to talk about the real problems the nation faces, but choose to discuss lip stick instead. We're very screwed regardless who wins.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-10   20:58:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Old Friend (#38)

Polls are polls. It doesn't matter what they say. This was a faux news poll, I heard it on the radio.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-10   20:58:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Sonovademocrat (#40)

Hmmmm yeah.... you must have a point here.

Obviously, unlike Obama, Palin is ALWAYS concerned with 'world peace' and 'ending hunger'. She used to do beauty shows. Remember?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:00:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Jethro Tull (#41)

Anyone would have to admit that his choosing her has been a huge help. How long it stands up, who knows, and for me at least the larger story is the socialization of FMae and FMac. Neither McCain nor Obama have bothered to talk about the real problems the nation faces, but choose to discuss lip stick instead. We're very screwed regardless who wins.

Good point that we aren't talking about serious issues.

On another point. I have a good reason to vote for mccain/PALIN. She drives the libs absolutely batty. Watching them crack up is quite entertaining. Maybe it isn't a good reason, but it would be very entertaining. Also it would at least screw up what was known as feminism. It would redefine it to something better.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:02:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#43)

Beauty pageant pap has nothing to do with the fact that, whether intentional or not, Obama led his audience to a conclusion and when they took it he didn't do anything to dissuade them. Either that was where he wanted them to go or he didn't know how since it wasn't on his teleprompter.

Sonovademocrat  posted on  2008-09-10   21:05:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Sonovademocrat (#45)

And what Obama didn't do has nothing to do with what the GOPs are accusing him on doing - which is calling Palin a pig.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:16:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: RickyJ (#16)

Source for this? I don't see the good doctor calling people morons no matter how much he disagrees with them.

You are correct. Dr. Paul did not call anyone 'morons'. That was my interpretation and I stand corrected. I regret making a false claim.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   21:40:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#46)

If Obama had any real guts. He would say I didn't call palin a pig. I called John McCain a war mongering mass murderer. Oh but he can't do that he votes to fund the war. Oh well.

Old Friend  posted on  2008-09-10   21:42:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: buckeye (#31) (Edited)

More to the point, I'm afraid of another 8 years of hell. There has not been a more destructive president that I can remember than Bush. McCain promises to be much worse.

Doesn't matter whether it is McCain or Obama--either of them will be worse and that is hard to believe. But just look at how much worse Bush has been than Clinton and most of us never thought we would ever live long enough to see anything worse than Clinton in the White House. Gets worse every election and has for a long time if people would just be honest about it.

edited for typo

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   21:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: James Deffenbach (#49) (Edited)

yes, what you said

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   22:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: buckeye (#50)

Thank you. It was hard for me to believe but one of the guys I went to school with--and I mean from first grade all the way through high school--has a huge Obama sign up on his deck. I know his dad is probably spinning in his grave and I thought my friend was smart enough to know that there wasn't any difference in them.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   22:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: James Deffenbach (#51)

Bush's presidency was a major setback for limited government. As was the intent.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   22:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: James Deffenbach (#49)

But just look at how much worse Bush has been than Clinton and most of us never thought we would ever live long enough to see anything worse than Clinton in the White House.

Same here. I've had to ask myself "Now, what the hell did Bubba do to piss me off so much??" several times since 2001. Bush is that bad.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   22:41:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: X-15, James Deffenbach (#53) (Edited)

You know, X-15, I don't think people realize what this means when people like us say such things. Kosovo, Waco, OKC, the AWB, and Ruby Ridge (Bush senior) and GHW's Iraq war I all included: Bush II is 10x worse.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   22:43:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

I agree with you. I feel the use of the commonly used phrase "...lipstick on a pig" was linked to SP because of the word "lipstick" being a feminine word, unless you consider someone like Rudy Guilliani.

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Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-09-10   22:53:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#55) (Edited)

Hmmm... Rudy with lipstick... grrrrrr!!!

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-10   22:55:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: buckeye (#54)

Kosovo, Waco, OKC, the AWB,

And NAFTA and selling our missiles to the Chinee

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-09-10   22:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Dakmar (#57)

How could I forget.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   22:56:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#55)

word "lipstick" being a feminine word, unless you consider someone like Rudy Guilliani

Could have done without that recurring image, thank you very much. :)

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-09-10   22:58:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Dakmar, buckeye (#57)

Thanks for the trip down memory lane . As bad as all those things were, Bush has been burning up ink pens signing REALLY bad shit into law that's going to be around for years to come. At least Republicans made a pretense of opposing Clinton, now both parties are shamelessly giving away our nation and our freedom.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   23:04:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: X-15 (#60)

This * has got to stop.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-10   23:06:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: buckeye (#52)

Bush's presidency was a major setback for limited government. As was the intent.

Bush's old man was terrible and I don't think you would get much argument about that even from a lot of hard core R's. Clinton was about as bad, maybe a little worse. Bush Jr. has been a nightmare, even worse than Clinton. And it looks like no matter what happens the next one will be even worse than Dumbya. Who woulda thunk it? Well, I guess I would since it finally broke through to my consciousness that it gets worse every election and I have been knowing that for quite a while.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   23:28:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: X-15 (#53) (Edited)

Same here. I've had to ask myself "Now, what the hell did Bubba do to piss me off so much??" several times since 2001. Bush is that bad.

If it weren't for Clinton's unconstitutional actions involving making war without congressional approval or declaration and his bbq at Waco he wasn't too bad (if you overlook his personal life and think of his administration compared to "Dubya's." I thought Clinton was terrible and I still do but he wasn't as bad as Bush has been).

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   23:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: buckeye, X-15 (#54)

You know, X-15, I don't think people realize what this means when people like us say such things. Kosovo, Waco, OKC, the AWB, and Ruby Ridge (Bush senior) and GHW's Iraq war I all included: Bush II is 10x worse.

If every one of those guys were ground up all you could do with them would be to make a $#it sandwich.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   23:32:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: James Deffenbach, X-15 (#63)

I thought Clinton was terrible and I still do but he wasn't as bad as Bush has been).

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-10   23:33:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: TwentyTwelve (#65)

Yep. Two peas in a $#it sandwich pod.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-10   23:35:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: TwentyTwelve (#65)

ROFLMAO!!!!!

The joke's on us!!

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-10   23:46:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Obama's mantra: "The only reason not to like me is racism."

Palin's mantra (didn't it used to be Hillary's) : "The only reason not to like me is sexism."

Anyone can play the identity politics game and the victim card when there's nothing substantial to say.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-11   14:18:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#68)

I never heard Obama saying that, ever. He did say that he had a funny name and a funny face but he didn't mention racism.

Same for Palin. She never said anything about sexism. She called herself a bitch with lipstick, I believe, but that was all she did.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-11   16:45:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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