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Title: Considering firm with Nazi ties for naming rights is wrong move (Never Forget!!!)
Source: New York Daily News
URL Source: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f ... m_with_nazi_ties_for_nami.html
Published: Sep 11, 2008
Author: Gary Myers
Post Date: 2008-09-11 16:47:11 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 206
Comments: 19

I was sitting in the end zone in the upper deck with my father when Giants Stadium opened for Cowboys vs. Giants on Oct. 10, 1976. In the last 32 years, between Giants practices and Jets and Giants games, I've probably been there 750 times.

Not once did I look up at the name of the stadium on the big blue signs and cringe as I drove through the parking lot or feel uncomfortable walking through the doors and seeing Giants Stadium on the scoreboard or typing the name of the place into my computer.

The feeling of indifference will change for me, a member of the largest Jewish community in the country, if the new $1.6 billion state-of-the-art palace the Giants and Jets are constructing is called Allianz Stadium.

Allianz, the front-runner to secure the new stadium's naming rights, is an insurance and financial services company founded in Berlin in 1890 that moved to Munich in 1949 and had ties to Nazi Germany. Its CEO at the time, Kurt Schmitt, was Adolf Hitler's economics minister. It was the insurer of the Auschwitz death camp's facilities and personnel.

Even if Allianz has tried to make restitution over the years to the families of the Holocaust victims, why should a football stadium be a reminder of the painful events that led to the murder of six million Jews? With so many Holocaust survivors in this area and ancestors of survivors or people who lost their parents or grandparents in concentration camps, it just makes no sense.

"I am very upset," Holocaust survivor Earnest Michel said yesterday. "I would find the connection of naming the stadium in the name of a German insurance company a very, very serious act and that we as survivors would take exception to."

Michel, 85, and still a football fan, is the former executive vice president of the UJA-Federation of New York. He was arrested in Germany in 1939 at the age of 16 - just because he was Jewish, he said - and spent the next 5-1/2 years in four different concentration camps before escaping.

"I never saw my parents again," he said. "I don't know what insurance my parents had. I was a kid."

His parents were arrested in 1940 and spent two years in a concentration camp in France before they were sent to Auschwitz. "They were gassed upon arrival," Michel said solemnly. "They were murdered upon arrival."

His sister was arrested at the age of 11, also in 1939. Michel didn't see her again until 1955.

Allianz has 11,000 employees in the United States, offices in New York and sponsors PGA senior golf tournaments and Formula One races. But it's the past that will prompt a damage-control campaign if Allianz remains the front-runner and wins the naming rights to the new Giants and Jets stadium.

The Tisch family, which owns 50% of the Giants, is Jewish and very involved in Jewish philanthropy. Steve Tisch did not return a call last night for comment.

A public affairs firm has been hired by the New Meadowlands Stadium Corp., to perform due diligence on the companies interested in naming and sponsorship rights. It has been working overtime on Allianz.

"In this instance, NMSC management and the teams' owners became sensitive to Allianz's history," Alice McGillion of the NMSC said in a statement. "This thorough review also found that Holocaust experts, former government officials and leading Jewish and survivor groups believe that Allianz has made determined efforts towards restitution and continues to do so today."

Even if Allianz, which has its name on a stadium in Munich, is willing to pay more than anybody else - perhaps as much as $30 million per year - could Giant owners Tisch and John Mara and Jet owner Woody Johnson take a little less money and be a little more sensitive? There seems to be some testimony that Allianz has tried to do the right thing over the years, but why would the Giants and Jets even subject themselves to such scrutiny?

And in these times when America is losing its value around the world, can't the naming rights to one of the most visible sports venues be sold to an American company?

Neither the Giants nor Jets offered comment yesterday, but combined with the recent PSL announcements, the news about Allianz's potential involvement is likely to be met with resistance in parts of the Jewish community.

"It's outrageous, to be honest with you," said Dr. Barry Steinberg of Chappaqua. "It's like adding insult to injury, salt to the wound."

Steinberg's father is a Holocaust survivor. "He won't drive a German car," he said.

Steinberg had been a Jets season ticket holder since 1980 when his seats were in the last row at Shea Stadium. He elected not to renew his tickets this year, the anticipation of PSLs and the lack of a dome on the new stadium playing a part in his decision. Even though his seats won't be part of the PSL program, he doesn't second-guess walking away.

The firm representing the team has spoken with Jewish leaders. If the deal is made with Allianz, they know there is an obligation to explain the background of the company.

"This opens a very, very serious problem to us survivors," Michel said.

And to those who sat in the upper deck on opening day.

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#1. To: X-15 (#0)

What a crock.

I used to kid Jewish friends about driving German cars like Benz, Audi and BMW.

I smell a shakedown.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-11   16:58:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: X-15 (#0)

Will they EVER get over it?

War is the state of our world.

People die, wrongfully.

There is no group of people on this planet who have not been killed by some other group of people, at one time, or another.

Stop moaning, and arm up.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-11   17:01:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: lodwick (#2)

Will they EVER get over it?

Why should they? Every jew born after 1945 is a holocaust survivor....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-11   17:05:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lodwick (#2)

[url=http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Jewish-Soldiers-Larry-Price/dp/B000V6LSQI]never forget[/url]

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-11   17:05:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: X-15 (#0)

murder of six million Jews?

I was reading Paul Fussell's "Thank God for the Atomic Bomb" when I ran across his comment that the Nazis killed "four million" Jews, Poles, Catholics, etc.

Fussell is a famous writer and even he doesn't fall for that Six Million Jews nonsense.

Freeper: I read, but do not understand, write, but make no sense, think, but nothing happens.

Turtle  posted on  2008-09-11   17:16:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: lodwick (#2)

Stop moaning, and arm up.

That's right ...

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-09-11   17:21:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: X-15 (#0)

Michel, 85, and still a football fan, is the former executive vice president of the UJA-Federation of New York. He was arrested in Germany in 1939 at the age of 16 - just because he was Jewish, he said

Whaaaaa ... sounds like a good enough reason to me

Frankly, I'm sick of hearin about the poor, poor, Jews.

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-09-11   17:28:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#5) (Edited)

"six million" is a jewish religion:

http://www.vho.org/GB/Books/tfh/3. html

Regarding the growing importance of the American Jewish Committee, a 1931 summary report by its secretary Joseph C. Hyman stated:[52]

"Small in its beginnings and regarded as merely a temporary committee for emergency aid, the organization has evolved into the greatest relief agency in Jewish history. In its primary results, it meant the physical saving of millions of Eastern European Jews."

Another American Jewish Committee's explanation was more restrained:[53]

"As soon as the World War [One] started and it was obvious that a large part of the War would be fought in the zone in which six or seven million Jews lived, particularly Poland, Russia and Galicia, many worthy people started organizations to collect funds for the sufferers in the War zones."

The story of the holocaust of up to six million European Jews didn't originate with World War Two. In fact, a very similar scenario was played out in somewhat less flamboyant terms during World War One and its aftermath. After World War One it was reported as news that five million, over five million, even six million Jews in Europe were sick or dying in a holocaust from starvation, horrible epidemics, and a malignant persecution. The following focuses especially on the World War One fund raising drives. These selected campaigns by major Jewish advocacy groups may offer historical significance both on their own and in terms of the post World War Two Holocaust industry.

Holocaust is a World War One word. Holocaust was used during and after World War One to describe what was going on in Europe and what allegedly happened to the Jews of Europe during and after that war. While the stories that are today referred to as "the Holocaust" weren't called a holocaust during or even for decades after World War Two, the word holocaust was used while World War One was happening and thereafter. It was called a holocaust, it was called the greatest tragedy the world has ever known and it was called the greatest need the world has ever known.

Until 1917, the leader of the Jewish community in New York, Jacob Schiff, repeatedly called for an end to "this holocaust".[54] In 1919, the American Hebrew magazine used the word holocaust in describing the plight of European Jewry in an article written under the byline of a former Governor of New York State.[55] Yehuda Bauer wrote in My Brother's Keeper, an authorized history of the Joint Distribution Committee of Jewish War Sufferers, that[56]

"the destruction of European Jewry during World War Two has obliterated the memory of the first holocaust of the 20th century in the wake of the First World War."

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-11   17:37:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: X-15. Deniers all (#8)

Just stop, we are sick of your whining and lying.

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-11   20:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: swarthyguy (#1)

I used to kid Jewish friends about driving German cars like Benz, Audi and BMW.

LOL, I remember being a bit tipsy once and trying to explain to a Jewish co-worker about the Dodge Brothers, Henry Ford, and out-of-control parties/bar-brawls in early 1900's Detroit.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-09-11   20:34:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Dakmar (#10)

This stance could be extended out to say Bayer aspirin, AIG, BASF products (the successor to IGFarben).

As the guy pulls into the hearing in his Benz.

Dodge Brothers, Henry Ford, and out-of-control parties/bar-brawls in early 1900's Detroit.

I understand Ford and his admiration of Germany but don't get the other connections...

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-12   14:35:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: swarthyguy (#11)

The Dodge brothers were what we would call today consultants, working closely with Oldsmobile and Ford, designing gearboxes and manufacturing processes. In addition to being skilled engineers, they also had a reputation of being out-of-control maniacs. From wiki:

Regardless of their wealth and growing influence in the business community, because of the brothers' crude manners and aggressive conduct, they were regarded as socially unacceptable by most of the well-heeled elite of Detroit. In 1912, Horace Dodge built a red sandstone mansion in Grosse Pointe. Calling it "Rose Terrace," the huge home with formal gardens and boat dock overlooked Lake St. Clair.

My father, a long time Chrysler employee and Mopar nut, told me they used to take their employees out for a night on the town and more than once ended up in a bit of trouble with the local innkeepers, but always paying for any damages. Reminds me of some of my favorite rock bands. Did I mention that they were Jewish?

I forget the exact story, but they broke with Henry Ford over the matter of a loan, it seems they were in the right best I can recollect.

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-09-12   21:02:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Ninpo (#4)

...never forget...

Jewish mantra:

"Never forgive, never forget, and never, under any circumstances, debate the stupid cattle, the goyim. Never!"

It's Great to be White!

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-14   11:37:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#13)

"Never forgive, never forget, and never, under any circumstances, debate the stupid cattle, the goyim. Never!"

I have heard them debate the goyim. This "debate" consists of calling them "goyim" and "hitler" and "anti-semite".

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-15   13:22:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Ninpo (#14)

I have heard them debate the goyim. This "debate" consists of calling them "goyim" and "hitler" and "anti-semite".

Yes, and they always control the mic; can interrupt any time; can change the subject any time; can go to commercial any time, etc. Jews are known to edit out any good points made by the goy debater...then edit in pictures of him picking his nose with old pictures of cross burnings and piles of naked typus victims in the background. They will also show the goy debater answering a different question than he actually answered, before their crooked editing.

That we are bypassing the controlled Jew media in this public venue, to criticize and ridicule our Jewish Masters, without it first going through their filter, scares them spitless.

Swarthy wrote on 9/11: "This [hatred for all things German] stance could be extended out to say...AIG..."

Hmmm? Here it is 9/15 and AIG ain't doing so well. Maybe you're right, Swart. Never forgive, never forget, never debate!

It's Great to be White!

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-16   12:51:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#15)

Swarthy wrote on 9/11: "This [hatred for all things German] stance could be extended out to say...AIG..."

AIG goes down, world markets will all go down. Period.

It looks like this is the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-16   13:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#15)

Didn't really mean any contemporary connotations with the AIG reference.

Just as in the sense of other financial companies, many, many were invested in the Germany of the 1930's since Hitler was pumping up the economy, autobahns, volkswagens, modernization and reindustrialization.

swarthyguy  posted on  2008-09-16   13:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#15)

Here it is 9/15 and AIG ain't doing so well. Maybe you're right, Swart.

Nope, it looks like AIG is in the Jew Club, certainly not the German one, and bailing AIG out is not "off the table" for consideration by the Bernanke and Paulson and those other Jew banksters: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080916/wall_street.html

Stocks fluctuate as investors mull future of AIG

Tuesday September 16, 11:48 am ET By Tim Paradis, AP Business Writer Wall Street awaits Fed rate decision

NEW YORK (AP) -- Stocks fluctuated Tuesday following a report that the government is considering extending aid to troubled insurer American International Group Inc. -- the latest in a string of companies that investors worry could be undone by a shortage of cash...Goldman Sachs Group Inc., the largest of the two big independent investment banks on Wall Street, posted its sharpest decline in earnings since becoming a public company in 1999.

It's Great to be White!

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-16   13:08:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Dakmar (#12)

a bit of trouble with the local innkeepers, but always paying for any damages.

It's hard to break that old ghetto genetic code...

Israeli teenagers are a nuisance in Poland

These loses being: demolished rooms, broken chairs and tables, human excrements in washbasins or trash bins, or like in Astoria, other hotel in Kraków, burned carpet. Astoria also backs out from having Israeli groups. One of the reasons is that the teenagers’ security agents were ordering other guests, whom they didn’t like, to leave.

"Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2008-09-16   13:21:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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