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Title: Jesse Ventura BODY SLAMS “911 Conspiracy Debunkers”, for 30 Minutes!
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Published: Sep 13, 2008
Author: Clay
Post Date: 2008-09-13 17:23:30 by Kamala
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September 12, 2008

Jesse Ventura BODY SLAMS “911 Conspiracy Debunkers”, for 30 Minutes!

By Clay

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False Flag Terror

September 11Jesse Ventura, the former governor of Minnesota, ex Navy Seal Vietnam Veteran, Demolition Expert and an avid spokesperson for 911 Truth.

The governor takes on a swarm of media in the footage below for about 30 minutes. This is a pretty intense interview!

(The first 2 minutes isn’t worth watching, it’s just someone walking around with a camera. Fast forward about 2 minutes to get to the interview.)

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#3. To: Kamala (#2) (Edited)

Listen American wetback, if fire does not weaken steel why is it fireproofed - and fire proofed steel is expensive stuff - we can save billions if not trillions not bothering. So if you are claiming fire does not weaken steel - why is it fireproofed? Is it all a scam to get money from the builder by the Italian mafia and insurance business??

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-13   18:11:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Kamala (#0)

Great interview! I can't believe Jesse didn't punch that rat-faced reporter with the beard. Jesse also changed the subject when the USS Liberty was mentioned. He's afraid of being called anti-semetic.

FREEDOM IS JUST ANOTHER WORD, FOR NOTHEN LEFT TO LOSE.....Janis Joplin

Christian Soldier  posted on  2008-09-13   18:15:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Destro (#3)

Pack your bags and get your inbred european ass out.

Eastern europe and western russia have some of the ugliest people on the planet.

They have been marrying their own ancestors and families for centuries living in those small backward stone villages.

Smashed, deformed and shaped heads and foreheads, with eyes spaced real close together. Look like some inbred lab experiment.

Mark

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Kamala  posted on  2008-09-13   18:20:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Kamala (#5)

Eastern europe and western russia have some of the ugliest people on the planet.

I am not eastern European nor Russian - but they seem like good looking people to me.

So why are you avoiding my question on where you stand on fireproofing steel?

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-13   18:32:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Kamala (#5)

If America is destroyed, it may be by Americans who salute the flag, sing the national anthem, march in patriotic parades, cheer Fourth of July speakers - normally good Americans who fail to comprehend what is required to keep our country strong and free - Americans who have been lulled into a false security (April 1968).---Ezra Taft Benson, US Secretary of Agriculture 1953-1961 under Eisenhower

Since I don't salute the flag, sing the national anthem and find no value in Americans serving in the military does that mean I am one of the good guys? Cool.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-13   18:35:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Kamala (#0)

Jesse asked the reporter a good question at the end, one I am sure he already knew the answer to. No jets were scrambled, at least not in time to make any difference, because there was a stand down. No other answer is credible or makes any sense.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-13   18:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Kamala (#0)

excellent interview! best part is when he drove home that rather than following Thomas Jefferson's, "Dissention is the highest form of patriotism," since 911, we now have adopted Hermann Goerings's, "“Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-09-13   19:45:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Destro, Kamala (#1)

Destro, steel doesn't fail under fire conditions.

That's why it's used for woodstoves, combustion engines, frying pans, and other things that involve fire.

The earth isn't flat either.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   0:48:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Destro, Kamala (#1)

TAKE A LOOK AT THESE PICTURES OF THE BUILDINGS ON FIRE!

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NEWSLETTER #69C February 23, 2005 September 11, 2001 Revisited. ACT III, ADDENDUM 1 This first missive was sent in by reader Dennis: ...
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TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   1:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Destro, Kamala (#1)

Credit for illustration: deesillustration.com

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   1:06:00 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Destro, Kamala (#1)

Madrid's Towering Inferno & The 9/11 Building Collapse Cover-Up

At that point it won't matter if the building actually collapsed or not and the ... flames inside the Windsor building almost a day after it caught alight, ...
www.infowars.com/articles/world/madrid_towering_inferno.htm - 29k - Cached

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   1:07:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Kamala (#0)

Body Slam indeed.

This was about the coolest cage rattler I have seen in months.

The truth seeker should spread this wakeup call around.

Well done Mr. Ventura.

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wakeup  posted on  2008-09-14   1:10:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Kamala (#0)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   1:12:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Kamala, Original_Intent, TwentyTwelve, FormerLurker, noone222, Horse, Uncle Bill, AllTheKingsHorsesWontDoIt, Itisa1mosttoolate, angle, Jethro Tull, Destro, christine, scrapper2, ALL, *9-11* (#0)

I usually don't watch the longer videos so much anymore, but I'm glad I watched this one.

Jesse Ventura's amazing here. Actually this is the first time I've really listened to him. He's up there with James Fetzer now in my books.

He kicks ass with those lame candyass reporters.

"Why am I doing your job?", he asks them.

Excellent stuff. This world needs more people like Jesse Ventura. Very inspiring.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   1:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: wudidiz (#16)

Excellent stuff. This world needs more people like Jesse Ventura. Very inspiring.

There's an apocryphal story about the military pecking order around "Seal Beach" in California.

When the Marines come into a Bar the Sailors leave.

When the Seals come into a Bar the Marines leave.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-14   1:51:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Kamala (#5)

Eastern europe and western russia have some of the ugliest people on the planet.

I don't know about that. I have seen more than a few super beautiful Ukrainian babes.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-09-14   2:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: RickyJ, Kamala (#18)

I don't know about that. I have seen more than a few super beautiful Ukrainian babes.

What kind of tractor did they drive?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-14   2:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#17)

Good story, thank you.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   2:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent, RickyJ (#19)

I have seen more than a few super beautiful Ukrainian babes.

My grandmother's Ukrainian.

Which would explain a lot.

LOL


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   2:32:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Original_Intent (#19)

What kind of tractor did they drive?

Reminds me of the saying about the young Ukrainian farm guy,

'Strong like bull, smart like tractor.'


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   2:34:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: wudidiz (#10)

That's why it's used for woodstoves, combustion engines, frying pans, and other things that involve fire.

Then why do they bother to fireproof steel?

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-14   4:00:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: TwentyTwelve (#11)

TAKE A LOOK AT THESE PICTURES OF THE BUILDINGS ON FIRE!

Were they also slammed into by airplanes????

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-14   4:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TwentyTwelve (#13)

From your link: "In fact before September 11th, 2001, no building had ever collapsed as a result of fire alone."

Right.

2 Jetliners + Fire = collapse of WTC towers.

Collapsing WTC taking out parts of WTC Tower 7 + Diesel fire = Collapse.

Thanks for playing.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-14   4:05:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Destro (#23)

Then why do they bother to fireproof steel?

Of course, that is a most excellent question since steel is already fireproof. I guess you'd have to ask them. I wouldn't expect an honest answer.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   4:21:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: wudidiz (#26)

Of course, that is a most excellent question since steel is already fireproof. I guess you'd have to ask them. I wouldn't expect an honest answer.

What do you mean ask them? Are you telling me you think fireproofing of steel just recently invented? Fireproofing steel goes back decades before 9/11. The answer for why fireproofing is that the heat from a fire weakens the steel's strength so steel beams needs to be fire proofed.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-14   4:40:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Destro (#27)

Apparently we disagree on this point.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   4:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: wudidiz (#28)

Apparently we disagree on this point.

Disagree on what? Are you telling me that fireproofing steel is actually not really required? You should lobby to change the fire codes that have been around for decades mandating fireproofing of steel because doing so can save a fortune on construction costs!!!

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2008-09-14   4:46:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Destro (#29)

The fireproofing is more fireproof than steel?


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   5:03:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: wudidiz (#28)

On this he seems of the mind that a fire somewhere else turns steel into wet noodles. It's tiresome and a favorite game of his.

angle  posted on  2008-09-14   7:44:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Destro (#25)

From your link: "In fact before September 11th, 2001, no building had ever collapsed as a result of fire alone."

Right.

2 Jetliners + Fire = collapse of WTC towers.

Collapsing WTC taking out parts of WTC Tower 7 + Diesel fire = Collapse.

Thanks for playing.

Do you know that those jet fuel fires only lasted a few minutes? They did not last long enough to significantly contribute to any temperature rise of the structure. Sorry, thats shear nonsense.

From Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster

Page 52, E.8.2 Characteristics of the Fires

The dominant fuel for the fires in the towers was the office combustables. On the floors where the aircraft fuselage impacted, there was a significant, but secondary contribution from the combustables in the aircraft. Most of the jet fuel in the fire zones was consumed in the first few minutes after impact, although there may have been unburned pockets of jet fuel that led to flare-ups late in the morning.

Page 53, E.8.3 Capability for Large Fire Reconstruction

Jet fuel sprayed onto the surfaces of typical office workstations burned away within a few minutes. The jet fuel accelerated the burning of the workstation, but did not affect the overall heat released.

Page 104, 3.2.1 Nature of Combustables

While much of the public attention has been focused on the jet fuel, most of this was combusted in only a few minutes. By contrast, typical office furnishings can sustain intense fires of at least an hour's duration on a given floor (see, e.g. Nelson 1989)

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   10:48:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Destro, wudidiz, Kamala (#10)

Just for starters, 9-11 represented the first collapse of ANY steel-framed building, allegedly from fire. Optimum Flame Temperature of Propane 3500°F, yet your BBQ doesn't melt or collapse when you grill. If you believe Jet fuel can demolish a building with the precision of a demolition team, I submit to you that you are 100% incorrect and urge you to look at the evidence and scientific facts.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-09-14   10:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Kamala (#0)

I wish Ventura had run for the MN Congressional seat. He could have easily defeated both the moronic Al Franken and his equally moronic GOP rival. Then Ventura would be prime material for a 2012 Presidential bid.

He's one of the few people with a track record of electability who is making any sense.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-14   11:49:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: RickyJ (#18)

I have seen more than a few super beautiful Ukrainian babes.

Beauty is in the eye of the communist beholder ! Hahahahaha !

"Every effort has been made by the Federal Reserve Board to conceal its power but the truth is the Federal Reserve Board has usurped the Government of the United States." "Mr. Chairman, the people of the United States did not perceive that a world system was being set up here that the United States was to be lowered to the position of a coolie country. . and was to supply financial power to an international superstate -- a superstate controlled by international bankers and international industrialists acting together to enslave the World for their own pleasure."

noone222  posted on  2008-09-14   12:31:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Kamala, Rupert_Pupkin, TwentyTwelve, noone222, cynicom (#0)

This is what I call exceptionally high quality 9/11 truth. It starts with asking questions. It doesn't jump to any conclusions. He assumes nothing, and makes no outrageous leaps of logic. For him it was the Iraq war. For me, it was the refusal of our country to stop illegal immigration (the vector by which many of the attackers were allegedly permitted to come into this country).

Thanks for the post, K.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-14   12:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#22)

'Strong like bull, smart like tractor.'

I didn't know they had Ukrainians in the Ozarks?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-14   23:22:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Original_Intent (#37)

Manitoba.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-14   23:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wudidiz (#38)

I was joking. The Ozarks are renowned for "Hillbillys" - big, strong, and dumb as a fence post. The movie "Deliverance" was set in the Ozarks.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-14   23:42:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Original_Intent (#39)

I was joking.

Yes, I know you were.

Wasn't up for humor at the moment I posted.

I saw deliverance.

Squeal like a pig and dueling banjos and all that.

Watched it on the black and white in my igloo.

;-)


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-15   0:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: wudidiz (#40)

Wasn't up for humor at the moment I posted.

Singing the blues?

I saw deliverance.

Squeal like a pig and dueling banjos and all that.

Watched it on the black and white in my igloo.

Wus it a guud Ukrainian eegloo?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-15   0:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#41)

I think that's the first time I've ever seen or heard Ukrainian and igloo in the same sentence.

No comment about the blues, but I am posting about Reptilians.

Please feel free to comment on the Reptilian thread, your opinion would be appreciated.


"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments, and which cannot fail to keep a man (or woman) in everlasting ignorance that principle is contempt prior to investigation."

wudidiz  posted on  2008-09-15   1:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: wudidiz (#42)

No comment about the blues, but I am posting about Reptilians.

Please feel free to comment on the Reptilian thread, your opinion would be appreciated.

I looked, but can't watch the videos so it puts me at a disadvantage.

I do think though that Icke's Reptilian stuff is an intentional plant to kookify the resistance to our would be masters. It is simply discrediting by association. "Icke believes in the existence of the Banksters, presents lots of valid evidence, and then discredits it all by associating it with the Shape Changing Reptiles. (Cue scary music.)

It does work as a metaphor though as these people are cold blooded monsters, but I despise Icke as the PsyOp Disinfo Operator that he is.

However, I think the intent of planting Ick and his Reptilloid line is a psyop to discredit, by kookifying, those people who point out the crimes of the RotChilds, Rockefuckers, Whoreburgs, and the rest of the inbred psychotic elite. Thus convincing people to not look, not examine, and to not draw the logical conclusions.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-09-15   15:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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