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Title: Curious Family History (Obama & McCain; Selective Service Mentioned)
Source: New York Magazine
URL Source: http://nymag.com/news/politics/encyclopedia/family-history/
Published: Sep 14, 2008
Author: Electopedia 2008
Post Date: 2008-09-14 10:40:11 by buckeye
Keywords: draft, selective service, nymag
Views: 179
Comments: 6

Curious Family History

Obama has ancestors who owned slaves, but none in America were slaves themselves. George Washington Overall, a great-great-great-great-grandfather, and Mary Duvall, a great-great-great-great-great-grandmother, both owned slaves. Two of Obama’s great-great-great-grandfathers fought for the Union in the Civil War: Christopher Columbus Clark served in the Missouri militia, as did Harbin Wilburn McCurry, who was forced to fight after being arrested by Union forces in Arkansas and charged with fleeing south to avoid enlistment. Meanwhile, Obama’s great-uncle Charles T. Payne was part of the 89th Infantry Division that liberated Ohrdruf, a Nazi work camp in Germany, on April 4, 1945. Not all the fighters are on Obama’s mother’s side of the family. Obama’s great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather Owiny was a warrior and leader of the Luo tribe, which defeated the Bantu armies in Alego, Kenya. Genealogical research and census records show that political ambitions may be in Obama’s blood: His great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather Mareen Duvall makes Obama a distant relative to Dick Cheney and Harry Truman. Plus, he shares his great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandparents Samuel Hinckley and Sarah Soole Hickley with George W. Bush, making the two eleventh cousins.

John McCain: 200-Odd Years of War

McCain says that his family has fought in every American war, from the Revolutionary War through the current conflict in Iraq (his son, Jimmy, serves there with the Marines). John Young, a captain in a militia during the Revolutionary War, “caught the attention” of George Washington and “was welcomed to the general’s staff,” McCain writes in Faith of My Fathers. (McCain’s father was a member of the Society of Cincinnati, a group for descendants of officers in the American Revolution.) Prior to that, in 1764, Captain Young had tracked down some Indians who scalped his brother in the Battle of Back Creek, fought them, and returned with the scalp to bury it with his brother’s body. A few of McCain’s relatives fought in the Civil War—for the losing side. In fact, Salon revealed to McCain in 2000 that his great-great-uncle William Alexander McCain owned 52 slaves on his Mississippi plantation. He died fighting in the Mississippi cavalry in the Civil War. His son Joseph Watt McCain also fought in the war—kind of. He “passed out at the sight of blood” in his first battle and was left for dead, McCain writes. Another of William’s sons, McCain’s great-great-uncle Henry Pinckney McCain, became known as the “father of the Selective Service” for helping to organize the draft during World War I. McCain’s grandfather John “Slew” McCain Sr. was an innovator of carrier tactics and served under Admiral Halsey in the Pacific in World War II. (Halsey once remarked that Slew McCain was “not much more than my right arm.”) He was present at the signing of the peace treaty with Japan onboard the U.S.S. Missouri. McCain’s father, John S. McCain Jr., served as a submarine commander during World War II. Between 1968 and 1972 he was command commander-in-chief of all American forces in the Pacific, and ordered the bombing of Hanoi with the knowledge that his son was held captive as a prisoner of war there.


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#1. To: buckeye (#0)

McCain’s great-great-uncle Henry Pinckney McCain, became known as the “father of the Selective Service” for helping to organize the draft during World War I.

Good heavens, you do read some interesting material.

Surely you were exposed to all of that in college????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-14   10:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom, lodwick (#1)

Sir, you jest!

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-14   10:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom, buckeye, all (#1)

Whether cited, or not, most here do not run out specious crap.

Personally, I think that I've learned more over the web than I did in twenty years of 'formal schooling.'

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-14   10:56:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: lodwick (#3)

Personally, I think that I've learned more over the web than I did in twenty years of 'formal schooling.'

Good reason Sir Lod...

What you were TAUGHT was sifted, molded, revised, twisted, contorted into a desired context and they added a dash of lies for good measure.

Of course the worst thing was total denial of rfeality.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-14   11:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: lodwick (#3)

I learned NOthing in advanced formal "schooling"..last thing I learned was in high school. college was a freeking waste of time.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-09-15   3:21:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: IndieTX. all (#5)

I learned NOthing in advanced formal "schooling"..last thing I learned was in high school. college was a freeking waste of time.

I think that I peaked around the ninth grade.

The rest was just b.s. and watching the cheerleaders cross their legs in class.

You can decide which was more 'uplifting.'

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic tyrants.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-15   22:14:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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