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Title: Who controls the banking and finance of the World?
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Published: Sep 14, 2008
Author: Richard and Various
Post Date: 2008-09-15 00:06:48 by richard9151
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Who controls the banking and finance of the World?

I ask your indulgence for just a moment. At times, I forget that not everyone collects and absorbs information the way I do. That means that at times I am impatient with people who have not the background to make the connections that seem so obvious to me. Sorry about that.

So please permit me to show you who is who. And, where they come from.

I have always appreciated Sherman H. Skolnick. He had more knowledge than anyone I ever heard of.

www.skolnicksreport.com/popes1.html

THE POPE'S BANKS IN AMERICA, THE GIANNINI FAMILY, and THE AMERICAN CIA--PART ONE

The Pope has had at least three banks in America. …

From early on, the Bank as well as the Board of Trade were supervised by the British and French Rothschilds, jointly with the Pope and the Papal States. And from early on, representatives of both the Vatican and the British monarchy sat on the Board of Continental. Few understand enough about all this to easily conceive of the Pope and the Queeen, together. In the public mind, at best, these are forces of friction. …

… “By the 1970s, Bank America, the holding company, was owned principally by the Vatican and the Jesuits, the Pope's clever army who occassionally see fit to rebuff the Pontiff. In the 1970s, the ownership broadened out to include the French Rothschilds, wrongly identified by know-nothings as "Jewish bankers", actually very Pro-Vatican into many joint finances not exactly compatible with ordinary Jews or the State of Israel. …

On behalf of the Pope, the Giannini family has operated in the Chicago-area a so-far low-key operation called First National Bank of Cicero. Historically, Cicero has been the mafia enclave adjunct to Chicago's old West Side. A dominant force in with the Gianninis and that Bank has been Bishop Paul Marcinkus, originally running aa Catholic Church in Cicero. Marcinkus went on to become head of the Institute of Religious Works [IOR] commonly called the Vatican Bank. Marcinkus fled the Vatican and took up refuge in Chicago, late in 1991.

Shortly after Marcinkus returned to Chicago, a purported asset for Israeli intelligence, the Mossad, in December, 1991, was found murdered, mafia-style, not far from the First National Bank of Cicero. A U.S. Bankruptcy Court auctioneer who corruptly skimmed off funds from Bankrupt Estates to contribute to Israel, Wallace Lieberman tried to shake down the Giannini family, their bank in Cicero, and related others, threatening to expose their role in the corrupt traffic in illicit gold, arms, radioactive materials, and such; that they acted jointly with the American CIA, the traditional Italian and Sicilian mafia, and Bank of America. …

After leaving Chicago, sometime after 1991, Marcinkus took up residence in Sun City, Arizona. Italian authorities have tried repeatedly, to no avail, to force the U.S. to send Marcinkus back to Italy for prosecution for crimes implicating him and the Vatican Bank, the American CIA, and the traditional mafia, in assassination financing, arms smuggling, and illegal trafficking in stolen gold, counterfeit currencies, stolen bond, and radioactive materials. Marcinkus fought off all such attempts to send him back to Italy, by sheltering himself in his Vatican passport, the Vatican, after all, being a separate sovereignty from the Republic of Italy. …

About 1983, a federal agency parked 58.4 million dollars in federal funds with Household Bank and Household International [described by some as CIA proprietary operations]. This was to make good Andreuccetti's pending claims. About 1988, 50 million dollars of that disappeared, and was secretly transferred to Little Rock,Arkansas, to try to cover up a 47 million dollar S & L embezzlement for which Bill and Hillary Clinton are subject to federal criminal prosecution and upon conviction, federal prison. … “


Sorry about all of the background, but unless you know who the players are, much of what goes on is simply a mystery.

watch.pair.com/mystery-babylon-4.html

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT -- CATHOLIC OR JEWISH? -- PART IV

“Does the Prieuré de Sion control the Roman Catholic Church today? According to various sources, including the Jewish Encyclopedia, the House of Rothschild has been the long-standing trustee of the Vatican’s wealth.

“Early in the 19th century the Pope came to the Rothschilds to borrow money. The Rothschilds were very friendly with the Pope, causing one journalist to sarcastically say ‘Rothschild has kissed the hand of the Pope... Order has been reestablished.’ The Rothschilds in fact over time were entrusted with the bulk of the Vatican’s wealth. The Jewish Ency., vol. 2, p. 497 states, ‘It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are guardians of the papal treasure.’ Researcher Eustace Mullins writes that the Rothschilds took over all the financial operations of the worldwide Catholic Church in 1823. Today the large banking and financial business of the Catholic Church is an extensive system interlocked with the Rothschilds and the rest of the International Banking system.” …


Actually, the Vatican is the power that licensed the Rothschilds to begin making international loans to governments in the first place.

www.cloakanddagger.de/med...atican_wealth_is_stor.htm

A clutch of paragraphs from THE VATICAN BILLIONS by Avro Manhattan:

"The Vatican has large investments with the Rothschilds of Britain, France and America, with the Hambros Bank, with the Credit Suisse in London and Zurich. In the United States it has large investments with the Morgan Bank, the Chase-Manhattan Bank, the First National Bank of New York, the Bankers Trust Company, and others. The Vatican has billions of shares in the most powerful international corporations such as Gulf Oil, Shell, General Motors, Bethlehem Steel, General Electric, International Business Machines, T.W.A., etc. At a conservative estimate, these amount to more than 500 million dollars in the U.S.A. alone.

"In a statement published in connection with a bond prospectus, the Boston archdiocese listed its assets at Six Hundred and Thirty-five Million ($635,891,004), which is 9.9 times its liabilities. This leaves a net worth of Five Hundred and Seventy-one million dollars ($571,704,953). It is not difficult to discover the truly astonishing wealth of the church, once we add the riches of the twenty-eight archdioceses and 122 dioceses of the U.S.A., some of which are even wealthier than that of Boston.

"Some idea of the real estate and other forms of wealth controlled by the Catholic church may be gathered by the remark of a member of the New York Catholic Conference, namely 'that his church probably ranks second only to the United States Government in total annual purchase.' Another statement, made by a nationally syndicated Catholic priest, perhaps is even more telling. 'The Catholic Church,' he said, 'must be the biggest corporation in the United States. We have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.'

"The Catholic church, once all her assets have been put together, is the most formidable stockbroker in the world. The Vatican, independently of each successive pope, has been increasingly orientated towards the U.S. The Wall Street Journal said that the Vatican's financial deals in the U.S. alone were so big that very often it sold or bought gold in lots of a million or more dollars at one time.

"The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment.

"The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century. No one can realistically assess how much he is worth in terms of billions of dollars."


Beginning to get the picture? About how it is all tied together?

Now, look into the Black Pope.

www.remnantofgod.org/blackpope.htm

The Most Powerful Man In The World? -- The “Black” Pope

So, you thought you were pretty well informed by now about all of the main players on the “conspiracy” playing field? You’ve maybe been hearing for years about (or bumped into on your own) the various elements of society who control our world from behind the scenes.

You’ve gotten familiar with the role played by, for instance, the Khazarian Zionists (who invented the word “Jew” to disguise their adopted heritage, as distinguised from the biblical Judeans), or the role played by the Banksters (banking gangsters) controlling the economies of the world, by the CFR (Council on Foreign Relations), the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers, the Committee of 300 (the 17 wealthiest so-called “elite” families)—the Rothschilds in England and Rockefellers in America and Bronfmans in Canada, and on and on, comprising the physical power structure of the New World Order puppets under the direction of darkly motivated, other-dimensional “master deceivers” commonly known as Lucifer or Satan and their “fallen angel” cohorts.

While all of those details contribute to understanding the Larger Picture, what you are about to read fills in a most important Missing Link in this entire structure. And I don’t mean a little side issue; I mean a link so central—yet so well hidden from general public view, and for so long—that even the most studied of “conspiracy theory” scholars probably have not put together much of the information that is going to be presented here. …


The information presented about the Black Pope is detailed and long. If you wish, read it, but, the point about it is, unless you understand the financial information I presented first, much of it does not mean much. Another book you should look up is Vatican Assassins.

OK. We have reached a point where we need to tie all of this together, so everyone understands who we are actually dealing with. Ready?

Some days ago, under Israel/Zionists, I put up three posts;

THE TRUTH ABOUT KHAZARS -- Facts are Facts Pt. 1, 2 & 3.

In part one, we find that the papers are written by a so-called Jew; Benjamin H. Freedman of New York City. However, the very first paragraph is a warning for us, as it shows that the author of these pages is lacking some vital information;

“Your very outstanding achievements as a convert to Catholicism impress me as without a comparable parallel in modern history. Your devotion to the doctrine and the dogmas of the Roman Catholic Church defy any attempt at description by me only with words. Words fail me for that. ..”

Very obviously, Mr. Freedman is not aware of all of the connections.

That does not change the very, very important information that the posts contain, and, in particular, one paragraph which goes a very long way in explaining most of the events of the world;

“ … HENCE THE TERM JUDAISM COINED BY JOSEPHUS REMAINED ABSOLUTELY UNKNOWN TO THEM ... IT WAS ONLY IN COMPARATIVELY RECENT TIMES, AFTER THE JEWS BECAME FAMILIAR WITH MODERN CHRISTIAN LITERATURE, THAT THEY BEGAN TO NAME THEIR RELIGION JUDAISM." (emphasis supplied – by the author).

This statement by the world's two leading authorities on this subject clearly establishes beyond any question or any doubt that so-called "Judaism" was not the name of any form of religious worship practiced in Judea in the time of Jesus. The Flavius Josephus referred to in the above quotation lived in the 1st century. It was he who coined the word "Judaism" in the 1st century explicitly for the purpose recited clearly above. Religious worship known and practiced today under the name "Judaism" by so-called or self-styled "Jews" throughout the world was known and practiced in Judea in the time of Jesus under the name "Pharisaism" according to Rabbi Louis Finkelstein, head of The Jewish Theological Seminary of America, and all the other most competent and qualified recognized authorities on the subject. The form of religious worship known as "Pharisaism" in Judea in the time of Jesus was a religious practice based exclusively upon the Talmud. The Talmud in the time of Jesus was the Magna Charta, the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, all rolled into one, of those who practiced "Pharisaism". The Talmud today occupies the same relative position with respect to those who profess "Judaism". The Talmud today virtually exercises totalitarian dictatorship over the lives of so-called or self-styled "Jews" whether they are aware of that fact or not.

Do you get that? Do you understand it? The Pharisees never went away. They are still with us, still practicing the same filth that Jesus condemned them for. They just changed their name so people would be confused.

Now pay close attention to another tidbit of information contained above;

"Pharisaism" in Judea in the time of Jesus was a religious practice based exclusively upon the Talmud.

The correct name of the Talmud is the Babylonian Talmud, and it was begun while the Israelites were in captivity in Babylon. Note carefully what is said above; it was/is a religious practice.

This makes the Roman Catholic church and what is today called Judaism virtually identical, because they have the same root.

www.biblebelievers.com/babylon/

The Two Babylons -- or The Papal Worship Proved to be the Worship of Nimrod and His Wife

“If there be this general coincidence between the systems of Babylon and Rome, the question arises, Does the coincidence stop here? To this the answer is, Far otherwise. We have only to bring the ancient Babylonian Mysteries to bear on the whole system of Rome, and then it will be seen how immensely the one has borrowed from the other. These Mysteries were long shrouded in darkness, but now the thick darkness begins to pass away. All who have paid the least attention to the literature of Greece, Egypt, Phoenicia, or Rome are aware of the place which the "Mysteries" occupied in these countries, and that, whatever circumstantial diversities there might be, in all essential respects these "Mysteries" in the different countries were the same. Now, as the language of Jeremiah, already quoted, would indicate that Babylon was the primal source from which all these systems of idolatry flowed, so the deductions of the most learned historians, on mere historical grounds have led to the same conclusion. …

The entire book is online at this site, so, please, help yourself and learn about the mysteries. It is important.

What is the first of these mysteries? The Trinity. The original Trinity was the founder of Babylon, Nimrod, his wife Sammaris, and their son, Tammuz, who is the son of god born on December 25th. Perhaps that date rings a bell or two for you.

If you are interested in learning more about those three, just type their name in any search engine and start reading.

Just bear with me for a moment more, as I am just about done.

What are some of the mysteries that have come down through the ages from Babylon through Egypt, Greece and Rome? And which the Christ Jesus so thoroughly condemned?

First among these were the Trinity. Another was the immortal soul, and hell.

Where did the lie about the immortal soul begin? In the Garden, of course.

God said; Genesis 2:17; But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will positively die.

And the serpent said; Genesis 3:4; At this the serpent said to the woman: “You positively will not die.

So if you have an immortal soul, then the serpent did not lie, but God did. You must decide who told the truth.

John 17:3; This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.

This Scripture is in the Bible for a reason. Read it carefully, and reflect on what I have said.

Also, the entire message in the Bible is about the resurrection of man. Having an immortal soul destroys that message, completely. Perhaps the Devil understands that. But that is for you to decide.

Note; I could have continued this for a lot more pages, including detailing who controls all media, radio, television, movies, and publishing, including the publishing of most Bibles, but why? Either you are going to begin to wake up, or, you are not.

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#5. To: richard9151 (#0)

Who controls the banking and finance of the World?

To answer that question, one might start by looking at those at the top of the international banking and finance industry.

This Jew-owned global investment bank, Lehmans Brothers, that went under over the weekend, is a good place to start one's journey toward understanding. How 'bout that Lehman Brother' Jew Richard Fuld? Check out his mug in this Bankster Rogues Gallery:

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/...naire-buddies-369218.html

Fuld's bio here: http://www.answers.com/topic/richard-s-jr-fuld

"In 2001, amid the global recession and stock-market collapse, Wall Street firms felt the economic pains most of all. Lehman at least outperformed the industry; Fuld's reward was a 2001 compensation package worth $105 million, making him the fourth-highest-paid chief executive in the United States."

"Citizenship: American." That's funny.

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-15   10:40:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#5)

This Jew-owned global investment bank,

It is nice to see that you stay the same, and do not bother to read that which you do not understand.

Such is the life of those who are blind, and deaf.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-15   11:01:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151 (#6)

It is nice to see that you stay the same...

It's called consistency, and having the courage of my Nature-based convictions.

It's interesting that this thread about the Jews that control international banking is in the "Religion" section. The Jews and their materialistic goy collaborators worship Mammon, the Jewish God of Wealth & Greed.

One can't serve his people and Mammon, you know. For the Babble tells you so.

Eeyi, eeyi, oooh!

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-15   11:57:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#8)

Nature-based convictions.

I do believe that there were others who said much the same words; Stalin was among them, as was Lenin. Probably Hitler as well. I do not know about Mao, but.... well, if not, he should have. Nice to see you in such company.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-15   15:40:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: richard9151 (#10)

To: Hypocrisy Cop

Nature-based convictions.

I do believe that there were others who said much the same words; Stalin was among them, as was Lenin. Probably Hitler as well. I do not know about Mao, but.... well, if not, he should have. Nice to see you in such company.

As for comparing my or others' Nature-based beliefs, grounded in reality, to your Bible beliefs, where your feet are firmly planted in the clouds, all I can say, richard, is that we have our way and you have Yahweh, the Jew's tribal god. For the sake of our decidedly non-Jewish race, may the better belief system prevail when the opposed world views collide.

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-16   11:33:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#11)

may the better belief system prevail when the opposed world views collide.

Interesting. We both have short lives.

But if I am right, I win, big time. Just think; Jehovah has promised those who blieve in Him life eternal. Ummm, live for 100,000 years..... just for starters. Yeah, I would say that is worth doing a little book work and learning about. Absolutely.

On the other hand, there is nothing for you to win. You spend a little bit of time on this planet, and then disappear, forever.

And all it takes is just a little time and effort to learn if such is possible.

Just, uh, how smart are you anyway?

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-16   18:20:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: richard9151 (#12)

To: Hypocrisy Cop

may the better belief system prevail when the opposed world views collide.

Just think; Jehovah has promised those who blieve in Him life eternal. Ummm, live for 100,000 years..... just for starters. Yeah, I would say that is worth doing a little book work and learning about. Absolutely...

Just, uh, how smart are you anyway?

Pretty smart, relatively speaking. Thank you for asking.

I didn't finish college, and years ago, before my racial awakening, my IQ was tested at around 130, twice. That would be considered a little above average, but certainly not in a high percentile towards genius. It depends on how you measure smart.

It's not how smart you are that counts in the long run, richard, but what you do in this world with what smarts you've got -- your deeds.

I'm told I'm right-brained. I've met smart people who are left-brained who can't do things I can. I don't pretend to do things well which I have little aptitude for, or interest in. As a rule when I'm looking to inform myself I retain what's essential, and pass on what's not. Your Jewish Scriptures are not. I made up my mind about that at age 12. I'm not still searching for Truth in an alien creed.

I'd say I'm an empiricist. One doesn't have to be supersmart to be able to observe the world around him and see patterns emerge and draw conclusions from these observations, based on what he sees and knows. One should be intellectually honest, however. That takes moral courage, not found much around churches or halls of Academe these days, and it takes having a sound world view.

I've sought out folks who think sort of like I do -- racially -- have similar values, and agree with me about certain fundamental truths. Most are usually pretty smart; some I've discovered here at the 4um.

Does the Intelligence Quotient test for intellectual honesty? I met many smart people in academia, but found most of them lacking in this particular department.

I'm neither superstitious, nor gullible, like you must be to be so devoted to the big lie in the sky.

I'm ultra-inquisitive; always been that way. I'm a natural skeptic of every claim, and whenever I see a Bible thumper like you trotting out the usual "Bible truths" as some sort of foundation for a movement to fight evil [read: anti-Semitic haters] my bullshit detector goes off the dial.

There you have it. Sorry for the ramble. That's how smart I am, richard. I have a sound world view -- simple, really -- against which I can measure everything as it relates to the betterment or detriment of my kind. I have sought out and worked closely with some of the best, most revolutionary-minded men who share my Eurocentric world view. My mind is made up. You don't scare me when you tell me my life ends when I expire. You can believe that ol' Yid Abe that you'll live forever, if you want. That's your problem.

I look forward to debating you here, richard.

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-17   10:36:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Hypocrisy Cop, *Bible facts* (#13)

my IQ was tested at around 130, twice.

Mine has been tested a few times also; yours is a little lacking.

nor gullible,

Really? Does that include believing, all evidence to the contrary not-with- standing, that man has some solution to all of the problems created by man? Like, just as a for instance, nuclear bombs and nuclear waste? Or how about for war?

Your Jewish Scriptures are not.

I understand that you have trouble dealing with facts, but they are not Jewish Scriptures; they were for the Israelites, who, at that time, were the white people. Who, after being invaded and taken into captivity, over the centuries, migrated into Europe, England and, finally, America.

What you call the Jews are the Khazars, an asiatic tribe that converted to Talmudism some time in the early 1300s. I can point you to all of the info you could wish on the subject(s). All of it written by the so-called Jews. There are quite a number of people in the 4um who are well versed on the subject, just as I am.

So please do not lecture me on intellectual honesty; when you ignore historical fact in order to fit something into your belief system, that is the worst kind of dishonesty. You might take careful note of my tag line.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-17   11:05:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: richard9151 (#14)

Mine has been tested a few times also; yours is a little lacking... So please do not lecture me on intellectual honesty.

Yeah, but I was hungover, both times.

I'm wide-eyed sober now, and, like I said, armed with a powerful world view.

I can see that you worship the Jew's Abrahamic tribal god, Yahweh, and that you hold sacred the Jew's Holy Book, the Torah. You always fall back to your "Bible facts" when asked for proof of anything.

It's no wonder you are so dead set against this contrived "anti-Semitism" nonsense that the Jew harps about 24/7. I bet you celebrate Remembrance Week and Ann Frank Day and all that other white history of the white people of the time of the Jew's Bible Stories, in the Levant (not Europe): those Israelites.

"Historical facts," you say? Please. Your Lost Tribes belief system does not conform to historical facts about the development of Europe by the White Man.

Hypocrisy Cop  posted on  2008-09-17   12:21:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Hypocrisy Cop (#15)

worship the Jew's Abrahamic tribal god, Yahweh,

You are funny, kind of. You decry the Jew's Bible, while the so-called Jews decry the white man's Bible. Just as many of the colored races of the earth say the same things; we are oppressed by the white man's Bible.

Why do they say that? Cause the Jew controlled press tells them that is the problem. Just as your hate literature, the literature that ego-centrict people (those who wish to believe that the world revolves around them), tells you something different. Yet that hate literature is just produced by a different arm of the same Jew-controlled press.

How do you control the people? It is called divide and conquer. Not that you would have a clue as to something so difficult to understand, right?

Let me tell you a secret; the Jews do not use the Torah. They use the Talmud, specifically, the Babylonian Talmud.

And what law do you live under in the United States? It is Talmudic Law, or, if you prefer, the Law Merchant, first developed in Babylon. You might know it as the UCC.

And if you think that I am the only one in the 4um that is aware of this, you are sadly mistaken. There are many aware of it, and they have posted a lot of info on it. So just ask a few to explain it to you.

As to the rest, you obviously believe that reading a couple of books about problems in the 80s and 90s has somehow revealed all to you. Actually, you have no clue, just as you do not have a clue as to how prophecy from the Bible is even now coming into view.

Oh, and by the way, the Iranians are a Semitic people, but the so-called Jews are not. If you had bothered to read all of this post, you might have started having a clue.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-17   14:11:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: richard9151 (#16)

Oh, and by the way, the Iranians are a Semitic people, but the so-called Jews are not.

I see. Iran, once known as "the Land of Aryans," is full of Semites and The Jewish Homeland, Israel, is devoid of Semites. Interesting. That would make both Israel and her proxy the United States anti-Semitic the way they want to wipe Iran off the map.

Aryan means noble. When Persia was renamed Iran in 1935, it was done to connote this connection to the ancient Persian people.

Etymology of "Iran": theblankoftheday.blogspot.com/2007/03/etymology.html

In former ages, the names Aryânâ and Persis were used to describe the region which is today known as the Iranian plateau. The earliest Iranian reference to the word (airya/arya/aryana etc), however, dates back to the Iranian teacher Zoroaster (est. anywhere between 1200 to 1800 BCE, according to Greek sources, as early as 6000 BCE and is attested in non-Gathic Avestan; it appears as airya, meaning noble/spiritual/elevated; as airya dainhava (Yt.8.36, 52) meaning the "land of the Aryans" and as airyana vaejah, "the original land of the Aryans."

During the Achaemenian dynasty (550-330 BCE), the Persian people called their provincial homeland Pârsa, the Old Persian name for Cyrus the Great's kingdom, which belonged to the Persian tribe of the Iranian branch of the Indo-Iranians and which is retained in the term "Pars" or "Fars" (from which the adjective "Farsi" is derived). It is part of the heartland of Iran and is identified in historical maps, such as Eratosthenes's, and in modern maps.

The word Ariya is also attested in the Inscriptions of Darius the Great and his son, Xerxes I. It is used both as a linguistic and an ethnic designation. Darius and Xerxes refer to these meanings in the Behistun inscription (DBiv.89), which is written in a language referred to as airyan, or more commonly as Old Persian. Both Darius and Xerxes state in inscriptions at Naqsh-i Rustam (DNa.14), Susa (DSe.13), and Persepolis (XPh.13):

“ Adam Pârsa, Pârsahyâ puça; Ariya, Ariya ciça... I am Persian, son of a Persian; an Aryan, from an Aryan lineage. ”

In Parthian times (248 BCE – 224 CE), Aryanam was modified to Aryan. In the early Sassanid Period (224–651 CE), it had already evolved to Middle Persian rn or rn Shahr which finally resulted in New Persian Iran or Iran Shahr. At the time of the Achaemenian empire, the Greeks called the country Persis, the Greek name for Pars (Fars), the central region where the empire was founded; this passed into Latin and became Persia, the name widely used in Western countries which causes confusion as Persia is actually Pars (Fars) province. On 21 March 1935, Reza Shah Pahlavi issued a decree asking foreign delegates to use the term Iran in formal correspondence in accordance with the fact that "Persia" was a term used for a country called "Iran" in Persian. (see Iran naming dispute). The 1979 Revolution led to the current name Islamic Republic of Iran, but the nouns Persia and Iran, and the adjective Persian are still used.

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