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Title: Barack Obama promises continuation of Bush administration militarism that destabilizes the U.S. economy - U.S. Democratic Nominee's Rhetoric of Change amounts to Mass-Deception and Mass Manipulation
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Published: Sep 16, 2008
Author: John Pilger
Post Date: 2008-09-16 20:00:49 by nikki
Keywords: Obama
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U.S. Democratic Nominee's Rhetoric of Change amounts to Mass-Deception and Mass Manipulation The U.S. and its allies are dropping record numbers of bombs on Afghanistan. This is not news. In the first half of this year, 1,853 bombs were dropped: more than all the bombs of 2006 and most of 2007. "The most frequently used bombs," the Air Force Times reports, "are the 500lb and 2,000lb satellite-guided . . ." Without this one-sided onslaught, the resurgence of the Taliban, it is clear, might not have happened. Even Hamid Karzai, America's and Britain's puppet, has said so. The presence and the aggression of foreigners have all but united a resistance that now includes former warlords once on the CIA's payroll. The scandal of this would be headline news, were it not for what George W Bush's former spokesman Scott McClellan has called "complicit enablers" -- journalists who serve as little more than official amplifiers. Having declared Afghanistan a "good war", the complicit enablers are now anointing Barack Obama as he tours the bloodfests in Afghanistan and Iraq. What they never say is that Obama is a jingoistic bomber. In the New York Times on 14 July, in an article spun to appear as if he is ending the war in Iraq, Obama demanded more war in Afghanistan and, in effect, an invasion of Pakistan. He wants more combat troops, more helicopters, more bombs. Bush may be on his way out, but the Republicans have built an ideological machine that transcends the loss of electoral power - because their collaborators are, as the American writer Mike Whitney put it succinctly, "bait-and-switch" Democrats, of whom Obama is the prince. Those who write of Obama that "when it comes to international affairs, he will be a huge improvement on Bush" demonstrate the same wilful naivety that backed the bait-and-switch of Bill Clinton -- and Tony Blair. Of Blair, wrote the late Hugo Young in 1997, "ideology has surrendered entirely to 'values' . . . there are no sacred cows [and] no fossilised limits to the ground over which the mind might range in search of a better Britain . . ." Eleven years and five wars later, at least a million people lie dead. Barack Obama is the American Blair. Obama simply for being African American, does not make him necessarily a sincere agent of change. He is indeed an eloquent advocate of mercenary and rampant system whose drum majors and cheer squads never see, or want to see, the consequences of 500lb bombs dropped unerringly on mud, stone and straw houses.
Poster Comment: "complicit enablers" bait-and-switch" Democrats, of whom Obama is the prince.
For Obama believers, you must understand that his mentor Rev. Wright, was right on one thing for sure. The chickens will come home to roost. You have already offered up five wars to visit upon your children. Want more?
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#13. To: nikki (#0)
ping ping ping!!!! if it weren't obama, these demhawks would be going nuts.
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Just send the African-American part.
It must be OK to Crusade with the American military if it's for world peace, hunger, and to combat tyrannical nationalists. Soon we'll have a carbon brigade.
weasel You are a master debater. I can't think of a wacky left-wing idea you don't support. Being a conservative Libertarian, I find control freaks of any color offensive. Your monkey boy obama is as big a control freak as they come. Don't tell me he won't steal more of my money in the form of higher taxes, or support laws that infringe on the Second Amendment. If you agree with stealing my money or stealing my Rights, the offer of an Old Yeller hunting trip is still open.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
You've not read the posts by Boonie Rat? Have you not read that women undergoing chemo for breast cancer were being sent back to Iraq? If not, man up and make ready. Age, disability, color, class, creed, gender, shall not be allowed to stand in the way of defending the fuhrer. Don't think goofiness will help either.
Obama is also a First Class Israel Ass Kisser and perpetual War Monger. Change?!? BBBBBAAAWWWHHHHH!!!!!!
AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.
They are sickening to watch. At the least regular war hawks want war 'over there' elsewhere, where only the poor shits that volunteer get screwed over by the sender, and we know what happens to the the recipients. Counted only when politics matter, otherwise, fodder and blood to grease the cogs. At last, the demhawks are making it clear that their war is first at home against Americans and happily willing to cull their ranks through war against people they don't give a crap about anyway. The gay parade is over, masks and makeup OFF. Most are waking up to the smell of the rot. Rather late, but at some point, the smell gets you.
Question: What else do we have to export? War is the only export we have to offer the world.
Without this one-sided onslaught, the resurgence of the Taliban, it is clear, might not have happened. Even Hamid Karzai, America's and Britain's puppet, has said so. The presence and the aggression of foreigners have all but united a resistance that now includes former warlords once on the CIA's payroll.
#14. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
He's African-American and Irish
#15. To: christine (#13)
if it weren't obama, these demhawks would be going nuts.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#12)
I am a better debater,
#17. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
(Edited)
Including us 54 year old Army war veterans? Now, I do have a Special Forces MOS, 18E that would get me back on board as I could easily pass a P.T. test. ;-)
#18. To: Flintlock (#16)
Your monkey boy obama is as big a control freak as they come. Don't tell me he won't steal more of my money in the form of higher taxes, or support laws that infringe on the Second Amendment.
#19. To: christine (#13)
if it weren't obama, these demhawks would be going nuts.
#20. To: nikki (#0)
For Obama believers, you must understand that his mentor Rev. Wright, was right on one thing for sure. The chickens will come home to roost. You have already offered up five wars to visit upon your children. Want more?
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#21. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
there ya go, Mike, you're admittedly all for this WOT afghanistan thing. you should be willing fodder. when you re-enlisting?
Including us 54 year old Army war veterans? Now, I do have a Special Forces MOS, 18E that would get me back on board as I could easily pass a P.T. test.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#22. To: christine (#21)
They contacted me about six years ago telling me how critically short they were especially with commo (which I am) and medical. I turned them down. It's kinda good I did, because the bonus they offered which seemed good then is far higher now for someone like me. They have to do this because they are hemorrhaging people to firms like Halliburton and Blackwater. (When I got out years ago, I refused to return queries from Blackwater.) I do not want Bush as my commander in chief, and I've become far more political then I was in the Army. I mean, even back then by mouth got me a Special Court martial I was lucky enough to win. I would be a goner if I was in these days.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#23. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
Now isn't that one of the greatest pertinent questions at this time. WE have NOTHING. Nothing but cannon fodder. The actual human beings of our country were sold at birth. I bet that includes you too. We are 'property'. Therefore, for the new world order to achieve it's means it had long ago decided that an unlimited army of meat would be provided to achieve the end goal. As you might have noticed, American weapon technology is being sold off to satisfy current debts. Think about that for a while. We do not own our infrastructure, waterways, public lands. Our military is owned by corporations. Our Congress is owned by Aipac. Our schools are controlled by Marxists. Our banks and most large corporations are foreign owned. Our property is owned by the state. Our voices are owned by the Israeli controlled ballot black boxes. Our Supreme Court is owned by the banksters. Are you feeling insignificant yet?
Question: What else do we have to export? War is the only export we have to offer the world.
#24. To: Ferret Mike, buckeye (#10) (Edited)
buck... If he is an RN he is already on Selective Service call list. New regulations cover doctors, PAs, NPs, nurses and in some cases EMTs. All such are on a list and in case of a draft, Selective Service must supply the military with up to 36,000 from the above list within so many days if requested. The age limits I forget but most are up to 45, some to 55, no exceptions.
His age may not permit him to escape the draft, and mandatory civil "volunteer" work is on Obama's list.
#25. To: nikki (#0)
The neocons are a proven entity. Obama has yet to comply with his masters.
#26. To: nikki (#19)
Just as sickening as the McCain/Plain supporters on this forum. Fool me once...
They are sickening to watch.
#27. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)
I'm thinking with the market crashing, the corruptible money goes to defense industry. Sickening how the anti-Obama crowd turns out to be the pro-McWar crowd. Hypocrites, all of 'em.
War is the only export we have to offer the world.
#28. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
I think we need ya over here, Mike.
I do not want Bush as my commander in chief
#29. To: nikki (#23)
Marx had some valid observations about workers and business owners now, didn't he?
Marxists.
#30. To: angle (#26) (Edited)
There you go again. Anyone supporting either party is cuckoo for cocopuffs.;) However, I can't abide voting for any head forker. This is quite the Catch-22 isn't it. To vote is to endorse cancer as the cure. *tilt*
Just as sickening as the McCain/Plain supporters on this forum. Fool me once...
#31. To: angle (#29)
Yes, and he was happy to use them a tools. How are our workers doing now?
Marx had some valid observations about workers and business owners now, didn't he?
#32. To: angle (#25)
I see it differently. In fact, it looks to me he has fallen in line perfectly. What am I missing?
Obama has yet to comply with his masters.
#33. To: nikki (#32)
As of yet, he has no power to act. Actions, not words, tell the tale.
#34. To: nikki (#31)
Under neocapitalism, we don't need no steekin workers.
How are our workers doing now?
#35. To: angle (#33)
As of yet, he has no power to act. Actions, not words, tell the tale. So how do you come to the determination he has YET to comply with his masters? I'm not clear. Of his actions, specifically his voting record and specifically the patriot act and fisa, I think he took instruction rather well. As a former constitutional law professor, he would've know his votes were in opposition to the constitution. Unless he got his degree from commiesonline U.
Obama has yet to comply with his masters.
#36. To: angle (#34)
See? The Marxism = extermination disguised as rights!
Under neocapitalism, we don't need no steekin workers.
#37. To: nikki, TwentyTwelve (#0)
Those who write of Obama that "when it comes to international affairs, he will be a huge improvement on Bush" demonstrate the same wilful naivety that backed the bait-and-switch of Bill Clinton -- and Tony Blair.
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#38. To: nikki (#36) (Edited)
Throwing terms like marxism around doesn't make any correlation between what is happening and what you're suggesting is happening.
#39. To: nikki (#35)
Simply, he's not a proven entity as President.
So how do you come to the determination he has YET to comply with his masters?
#40. To: X-15 (#37)
ROFL! Thanks!
#41. To: angle (#38)
I didn't use the word willy nilly. I typed it because I meant it. How many marxists are around here anyway?
Throwing terms like marxism around doesn't make any correlation between what is happening and what you're suggesting is happening.
#42. To: angle (#39)
Oh, so we are basically going on what to say he is qualified for the job?
So how do you come to the determination he has YET to comply with his masters? Simply, he's not a proven entity as President.
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
so i take that to mean you will go to Afghanistan if Prez Obama calls you, huh? i should also take that to mean that you are in agreement with bush's doctrine as regards Afghanistan, anyway. so what's the difference then in bush or Obama as your CiC?
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#44. To: Ferret Mike (#22)
You can now use the line that didn't work in 1945: "I was just following orders!". Ironic, huh??
I mean, even back then by mouth got me a Special Court martial I was lucky enough to win. I would be a goner if I was in these days.
-Schweizerische Schutzenseitunt (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#45. To: christine (#43)
I view the wars in both countries differently, and this should be obvious to you as I do not support the Bush Doctrine in anyway. I don't have time to explain the differences I see fully right now, but suffice it to say that I know that if we had a theocracy here in this land, I would welcome anyone who came in and helped us insurgents break the back of the government. And if Obama made a reasoned call for former S.F. to come back to help with mission load to get enough of the right people for the job for the first time in this war's history, I probably would go. I never ever had anything against being a paratrooper, I am a warrior at heart anyway. And I am good at that job too I might add.
"so i take that to mean you will go to Afghanistan if Prez Obama calls you, huh?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#46. To: X-15 (#44)
As a boy, one of the things I did was go over to Tom Dodd's farm in Old Lyme, Connecticut. He was a very old man in the late 60s and was in the Senate once as is his son Chris Dodd currently. He became a family friend as he knew and liked my father Daniel McCarthy who had died of a heart attack some years earlier. Dad had been a commercial pilot for Wyatt Oil in New Haven, and had flown Todd between Washington, D.C. and New England many times. Tom Dodd had also spent 15 months as vice chairman of the Board of Review and later executive trial counsel for the Office of the United States Chief of Counsel for the Prosecution of Axis Criminality at Nuremberg, Germany. I got it from the horse's mouth about how and why "I was just following orders" is a no go situation when being held accountable for war crimes. I seriously doubt you would see me ever guilty of a war crime. When I argued the topic when in the military I always pissed people off who felt certain things were acceptable behavior in war when I argued differently. What really pissed them off too was that some of them checked out my argument and were disgusted and exasperated to see I was right. Tom Dodd had his faults, but one thing he was a master at was knowing what was and what was not a war crime or crime against humanity and teaching it.
"You can now use the line that didn't work in 1945: "I was just following orders!". Ironic, huh??"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#47. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
first, i think you're naive to believe that that is the reason we're there. secondly, if it were, it's none of our business. third, if that were the case here, it would be up to the american people to take care of it. we're not supposed to be globalists. we're supposed to be a sovereign country.
but suffice it to say that I know that if we had a theocracy here in this land, I would welcome anyone who came in and helped us insurgents break the back of the government.
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#48. To: Ferret Mike (#45)
P.J. O'Rourke said it much better than me. "Politics is the business of getting power and privilege without possessing merit. A politician is anyone who asks individuals to surrender part of their liberty -- their power and privilege -- to State, Masses, Mankind, Planet Earth, or whatever. This state, those masses, that mankind, and the planet will then be run by ... politicians."
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#49. To: christine (#48)
Lowest social class has their own definition... Politics is dirty business, run by power hungry people with dirty hands. No exceptions.
#50. To: Flintlock (#16)
From a speech in California: "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you put down your divisions. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone . . . Barack will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual - uninvolved, uninformed."~ Michelle Obama His ol' ugly, Aunt Esther look alike "wife" admits that he is a control freak. At least that is how it sounded when she said that. And people support these dumb@$$e$. Incredible. Disclaimer: For all those who believe that if you are not for their establishment whore it automatically means you are for the other one, that is not the case. At least it isn't with me and with a lot of people I know who know the whole system is rigged and that Obama and McCain wouldn't have gotten where they are if they weren't a willing player in what they know is a crooked game. So just go ahead and cheer for whichever one of the sock puppets you want to see in the White House, but know this--no matter whether Obama or McCain wins, America loses.
Your monkey boy obama is as big a control freak as they come. Don't tell me he won't steal more of my money in the form of higher taxes, or support laws that infringe on the Second Amendment.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
#51. To: James Deffenbach, Flintlock (#50)
I'm gonna walk up to Walmart and buy a quart of tequila, a Barbie doll, a can of brown spray paint, and some artificial moss if they have a fish department. Who's with me?
So just go ahead and cheer for whichever one of the sock puppets you want to see in the White House
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#52. To: James Deffenbach (#50) (Edited)
I know what you mean. You're either with them or you're with the terriers.
Disclaimer: For all those who believe that if you are not for their establishment whore it automatically means you are for the other one, that is not the case.
#53. To: Dakmar (#51)
Who's with me? Sounds like a party.
I'm gonna walk up to Walmart and buy a quart of tequila, a Barbie doll, a can of brown spray paint, and some artificial moss if they have a fish department.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
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