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Title: Cynicom : Let's Discuss THIS!
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.haloscan.com
Published: Sep 23, 2008
Author: Malcolm Martin
Post Date: 2008-09-24 13:17:24 by angle
Keywords: None
Views: 1164
Comments: 69

Cyni, I would like you to read this and critique it for me. All Welcome.

" ..."I wrote The Shock Doctrine in the hopes that it would make us all better prepared for the next big shock."

Forgive me this simple question Ms. Klein, but who praytell is "us"? Because if it is, as I suspect, your circle of friends, you know, the Birkenstock wearing, Starbuck's drinking, Barnes & Noble crowd, then you are preching to maybe the most impotent segment of the US population. Marx called them the petty bourgeois.

Check this out Ms. Klein, American bourgeois democracy is being held under water. It will drown, never to be resuscitated. The liberal intelligentsia of the petty bourgeois spins its wheels in the mud of this reality. On this point Al Gore’s quixotic campaign to sound the alarm on the ecological disaster right around the corner is instructive. In An Inconvenient Truth Gore lays out the incontrovertible facts of global warming, hoping to organize and agitate to a tipping point that changes governmental policy. A young Al Gore saw Dr. Martin Luther King do just that in his confrontation with racism. Despite titling his recent book “The Assault On Reason” Gore and clings to the idea that rationality still has influence in American ruling circles. The real inconvenient truth is that even the great Dr. King could not generate an effective civil rights movement in this era and that the rape of the planet will not end until a stake is driven into the heart of capitalism.

The sad truth is that the petty bourgeois cannot defeat the capitalist ruling class! They are a timid and passive group who, in this time for warriors, gather at the gates of the palace to nag and complain essentially to each other. There are scores of Internet websites, magazines, newspapers, radio programs and networks, and some small television networks where liberal, left, progressive, and other commentators show up to whine out loud. They rail against the outrages and inhumanity of the U.S. government and the Bush Administration. They point out the duplicity, the corruption, the hypocrisy, the inhumanity, and the utter criminality loosed in the world today but to no useful end since capitalism will not be reformed nor shamed to death. Pointing out the defects of capitalism has become as easy as shooting fish in a barrel. The ruling class brushes its liberal democratic critics off like gnats as long as they stay away from the third rail. But let one of these voices dare mention unity based on working class-consciousness and a mobilization to strike at profits and great danger would shortly thereafter visit.

No matter the danger, it must begin to be spoken by a warrior vanguard: socialism is the only way humankind will live into the distant future on this planet. Only a working class with a consciousness of itself and united across all racial, national and cultural boundaries is capable of seizing power. Only a working class in power will see to the end of this madness and willingly share our available resources for the sake of human survival."

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#2. To: angle (#0)

Still pimping the world socialist man made global climate change claptrap of the ecocon/neocons?

Rotara  posted on  2008-09-24   13:45:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Rotara (#2) (Edited)

I'm not pimping. I'm asking for discussion without hyperbole. If you're able, give it. It's more the working class power aspect that I'm directing toward cyni for comment.

angle  posted on  2008-09-24   13:58:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: angle, jedthro tull, christine (#3)

First of all I assume the author is an amalgamation of Martin King and Malcolm X.

"that the rape of the planet will not end until a stake is driven into the heart of capitalism. "

I find the above to be correct and interesting, but for the wrong reason. Had the author said...rape of the planet and its people...that would have been more correct.

As we now endure Capitalism and Socialism, they are ONE AND THE SAME. There is not one shred of difference as to who is in charge. It has taken Americans decades to finally realize that in politics, there is only one party, therefore socialism and capitalism are one and the same.

Original "Socialism" as conceived by Robert Owen was in fact a great human endeavor to ease the plight of mankind, a revolutionary concept. The best of mankind. However along came Clinton Roosevelt and Karl Marx that found in socialism a weapon to use for the enslavement of man.

The wealthiest of America capitalism are in fact the greatest socialists, owners and operators, the Rockefellers and on down.

Until Americans realize that modern day Socialism is Capitalism at work, we will have no change.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   15:13:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#22)

Original "Socialism" as conceived by Robert Owen was in fact a great human endeavor to ease the plight of mankind, a revolutionary concept. The best of mankind. However along came Clinton Roosevelt and Karl Marx that found in socialism a weapon to use for the enslavement of man

It's not the economic system that enslaves anyone, it's the government coercion on the business end. Socialism wouldn't exist in a free society, just charity.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-09-24   15:23:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: duckhunter (#26)

It's not the economic system that enslaves anyone, it's the government coercion on the business end. Socialism wouldn't exist in a free society, just charity.

I would say that presently the government, socialism and capitalism is all the same people. One big happy family, at the top.

Trying to divorce the ruling elite from owning and operating all functions of government and society is futile.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   15:27:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

Trying to divorce the ruling elite from owning and operating all functions of government and society is futile.

At this point in time I tend to agree but I see a reason for that. The "ruling elite" are entrenched in the halls of coercion and not subject to any market forces of consequence. The robber barons were only able to accrue as much influence as they did because they harnessed the power of the free market AND the coercive power of government. Take away the coercion of government and competition prevents any of them from obtaining the level of influence they gained.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-09-24   15:34:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: duckhunter (#28)

Take away the coercion of government and competition prevents any of them from obtaining the level of influence they gained.

The power of libertoid force, is strong with this one....

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-24   15:37:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Ninpo (#29)

Any comments of substance or are you just going to masturbate all over the forum?

duckhunter  posted on  2008-09-24   15:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: duckhunter (#30)

Any comments of substance or are you just going to masturbate all over the forum?

Your repeating the same thing that libertoids have trademarked for years on lew rockwell et all is a cum stain.

Do you have anything even remotely to add that is not taken (word for word) from the libertoid bible?

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-24   15:43:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ninpo (#31)

Do you have anything even remotely to add that is not taken (word for word) from the libertoid bible?

Nothing that isn't over your head.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-09-24   15:45:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: duckhunter (#33)

Nothing that isn't over your head.

LOL!

Nothing you have posted is "above my head". I understand all the bullshit you libertoids preach.

It was old when libertarianism was created, and it was old when lew rockwell started posting it, and it is old listening to you post it.

Sorry.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-24   15:49:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ninpo (#37)

It was old when libertarianism was created, and it was old when lew rockwell started posting it, and it is old listening to you post it.

So read something else and leave those who enjoy discussing it to their own pursuits. It's a simple concept.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-09-24   15:51:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#41. To: duckhunter (#39)

So read something else and leave those who enjoy discussing it to their own pursuits. It's a simple concept.

I call a spade a spade when I see 'em.

I make no apologies. Get over it.

Ninpo  posted on  2008-09-24 15:55:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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