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Title: The Official 4um Debate - Will he or won't he (show up for the prez chit-chat). And who gains in either case?
Source: News
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Published: Sep 24, 2008
Author: Me, me, me
Post Date: 2008-09-24 19:59:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Views: 451
Comments: 41

There are 4 possible situation.

1 - McCain shows up, debate
2 - McCain shows up, no debate
3 - McCain stays in Wash, no debate
4 - McCain stays in Wash, debate

I predict #4, giving the McCains' efforts to turn this entire process into a 3- ring circus, with McCain playing 'zee maverick' to Palin's bearded lady.

As for who benefits, McCain's now a loser whether he shows up or not.

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#1. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

5- False flag: Debate forgotten.

angle  posted on  2008-09-24   20:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

You may have to backtrack if Obummer gets smart and dumps Biden for Hillary.

Sure win if he does.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   20:02:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#2)

Hillary will never be the prez, God willing.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-24   20:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#3)

Hillary will never be the prez, God willing.

Dont count Hillary out...yet.

Maybe as VP, throw Biden out.

Or if McKooK wins Sec. of State????????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   20:12:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

If McCain wanted to display brilliance he would send Palin to debate Obama.

HOW is it that (you) the Private citizen is being touted as the debtor when the PRIVATE FED RESERVE loans CREDIT to other PRIVATE BANKS ???

noone222  posted on  2008-09-24   20:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: noone222 (#5)

That would be in line with the circus theme. Maybe you can send the word to the campaign.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-24   20:18:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: noone222 (#5)

No thanks.

I'll be at Fri night football.

angle  posted on  2008-09-24   20:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

The answer is #3. Take it to the bank and get your sorry ass in military shape. You're off to Obongo's war, son. I'd be happy to join you but Afghanistan isn't our enemy and I believe in a *piece*, not war.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-24   20:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

When President Obama requests volunteers to fight in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Ameristan, I will send him a list of 4um members that will be anxious to go.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   20:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#9)

As well you should citizen Cyni. America is at a crossroad, and we need a core of Audie Murphy's to defend the Motherland. I know they will obey their Saviour in His time of need.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-09-24   20:42:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: All (#10)

If McCain decides to stay and work on the problem, we all know it's a PR stunt, putting 'Country First', but I bet it would play well.

If Obama shows up to face an empty chair, well then, the cheese stands alone. Obama always puts himself first, has some excellent but spinable lines, but is safely substance free. The media will howl. If the debate is indeed a 'go' for Friday night, I would almost bet they will spend 40 mins on questions about throwing the imperial media a curve ball not knowing how to properly prepare, and will as usual show their ignorance of real problems for the little people. These events are no longer geared to inform us, but play us for petty and insignificant fools. Can we spend 10 minutes on Palins lipstick and affair? In closing Senators, in 5 words, what would you tell the voters.

nikki  posted on  2008-09-24   21:03:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: nikki (#11)

McKooK wants to deal with it as a Senator, Obama says no...McKooK in awkward position...

And now Bush says McKooK, Obaman and congress leaders SHOULD meet.

Ball is now in Obummers court.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   21:06:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#12) (Edited)

Are you watching the double-stupid on the teevee?

He looks like like he's wearing a Halloween mask. Pretty scary, actually.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-24   21:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#13)

Vast...

I do not have a TV, have not watched one in years except for disasters such as the hurricane etc. News??? No... Politics???? Been many a year.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   21:10:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Cynicom (#14)

Lucky you. And... lucky me, the kids are not around to see what I see.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-24   21:11:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#15)

I did watch Khou streaming tv the other day on my puter for the hurricane.

Other than that, TV is a wasteland and should be taxed.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-24   21:14:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#12)

McKooK wants to deal with it as a Senator, Obama says no...McKooK in awkward position...

And now Bush says McKooK, Obaman and congress leaders SHOULD meet.

Ball is now in Obummers court.

Obama has been running for President for 17 months. I don't think he has any intention of showing up with the little worker bees. Michelle Betsy Ross Obama has already finished with the Oval Office curtains. He won't go back to work. He hasn't had to make a decision on his own for 30 years. Such a spotlight might burn.

nikki  posted on  2008-09-24   21:14:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nikki (#17)

Calm down, O'Bama already announced that he's going to show up in Wash, tomorrow.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-09-24   21:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#18)

Calm down, O'Bama already announced that he's going to show up in Wash, tomorrow.

Oh my. I shall order palm fronds to lay before his path.

nikki  posted on  2008-09-24   21:18:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nikki (#17)

Michelle Betsy Ross Obama has already finished with the Oval Office curtains. He won't go back to work. He hasn't had to make a decision on his own for 30 years. Such a spotlight might burn.

LOL! Good one. It is probably "above his pay grade" to make any decisions.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-24   22:21:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: nikki (#19)

Oh my. I shall order palm fronds to lay before his path.

And prostrate yourself before the great and mighty Obummer, no doubt. As "Shirley Q. Liquor" said in one of "her" videos, when they came and picked her up on some old aggravated charge, "They took me and prostrated me before the jerdge." ahaha.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-24   22:23:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#9)

When President Obama requests volunteers to fight in Afghanistan, Pakistan or Ameristan, I will send him a list of 4um members that will be anxious to go.

LOL! I am sure that there are many on here--well, up toward half a dozen anyway--who worship at the altar of Obama and will be happy to go where he tells them. At least they should be since they think he is all that and a bag of chips.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-24   22:26:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#10)

As well you should citizen Cyni. America is at a crossroad, and we need a core of Audie Murphy's to defend the Motherland. I know they will obey their Saviour in His time of need.

And they better get to goose stepping when Obama tells 'em to march.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-24   22:27:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

LOL! Good one. It is probably "above his pay grade" to make any decisions.

TOO TRUE!

nikki  posted on  2008-09-24   22:37:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: James Deffenbach (#21)

And prostrate yourself before the great and mighty Obummer, no doubt. As "Shirley Q. Liquor" said in one of "her" videos, when they came and picked her up on some old aggravated charge, "They took me and prostrated me before the jerdge." ahaha.

LOL!!!!

nikki  posted on  2008-09-24   22:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#18) (Edited)

McChicken might want to consider suspending altogether.

angle  posted on  2008-09-24   23:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Will a vast rightwing conspirator riot after Obama loses or will he not?

I think it is a safe bet he will riot. ;)

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-09-24   23:33:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: angle (#7)

No thanks.

I'll be at Fri night football.

I didn't say I'd watch it (but I might) ... I don't vote ! But it would be a ballsy move and would put Obama on the defensive.

HOW is it that (you) the Private citizen is being touted as the debtor when the PRIVATE FED RESERVE loans CREDIT to other PRIVATE BANKS ???

noone222  posted on  2008-09-25   2:29:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#2)

"You may have to backtrack if Obummer gets smart and dumps Biden for Hillary."

That would be the stupidest thing Obama could do.

If McGovern had stuck to his statement that he was behind Thomas Eagleton 1000 percent, he would have done a whole lot better then he did. Possibly he would of won.

No, you are so wrong it boggles the mind you could even think this.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-25   2:37:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#6)

That would be in line with the circus theme.

That's what it is !!! A stage play. So far, Palin has dominated the press coverage and it looks like she has didturbed the Obama campaign. They've been swingin at windmills since she came into view ...

If she debated Obama even to a draw ... McCain is elected.

Now I don't play politics. It's a fools game, it's completely rigged, I don't agree with any of the current prospects or their agendas. In my entire lifetime, Ron Paul was as close as it ever got to a candidate holding views similar to mine, and I'm not certain he wasn't used to waste what little money exists among the people choosing to be free.

HOW is it that (you) the Private citizen is being touted as the debtor when the PRIVATE FED RESERVE loans CREDIT to other PRIVATE BANKS ???

noone222  posted on  2008-09-25   2:39:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)

Vast...

Obama and McCain are sitting Senators. They have a job to do in DeeCee.

If you're saying that a TV appearance is more important than doing their job, you've got rocks in your head.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-09-25   2:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Ferret Mike (#29)

No, you are so wrong it boggles the mind you could even think this.

wrong???

How dare you Sir, say I am wrong.

I have never been wrong in my life when politics is involved.

Well, at least, would you admit it makes for interesting thought and conversation????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-25   3:20:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

I remember the debate during the primaries when Barack Obama said to Hillary, "Sometimes I wonder with one of you I am running against" in regard to her and hubby.

He doesn't want her, and she doesn't want to be his number two. That is bottom line fact.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-25   6:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Ferret Mike (#33)

He doesn't want her, andshe doesn't want to be his number two. That is bottom line fact.

Perhaps he does not WANT her, that being so, many would argue he may lose the election to McKooK because the black non racist vote and the white guilters may fall short in number.

Perhaps you were too young for this history note, JFK despised LBJ for the political slime he was but he was smart enough to know that without LBJ he might well lose. As it was he barely won by less than 100K votes.

Of course, perhaps Obama has heard of what happened to JFK.

Obama has been saddled with a non person, non threat and worthless VP, a political hack. Hillary was there, was it fear that stopped him "selecting" her????

You made this statement... "she doesn't want to be his number two. That is bottom line fact. "

Rather odd, two days ago, Bill said Hillary would have INDEED accepted, had it been offered. That does not square with your fact Mike.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-25   6:40:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Cynicom (#34) (Edited)

It does. She would accept but not like the new job. Accepting would be her throwing the lit stick of dynamite into the water Obama handed her by offering her the job to fish as she would know holding it and talking would blow things completely for her. -- Too use that old joke as a metaphor. --

Johnson as V.P. was an unmitigated disaster for the United States. Hillary as V.P. would be unmitigated disaster for us and the upcoming Obama Administration as well.

Joe Biden was a good solid choice showing Obama to be tactically proficient. Unchoosing him would be like hanging a dead albatross around Obama's neck.

It would be the kiss of death.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-09-25   6:57:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: noone222 (#5)

A ballsy move?

She can't even answer a direct question from Couric without resorting to one of a list of ten talking points. She's a miserable failure as a leader and knowlegeable person. It would be a slaughter. The problem for Obama would be doing it nicely.

angle  posted on  2008-09-25   8:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Ferret Mike (#35)

Joe Biden was a good solid choice showing Obama to be tactically proficient.

I agree with that. He may be a dipshit, but he's a qaulified dipshit.

angle  posted on  2008-09-25   8:51:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: angle (#36)

She can't even answer a direct question from Couric without resorting to one of a list of ten talking points.

To be honest I haven't watched any of her appearances ... I'm not interested. I think they're all the same ... puppets of bankers. I just figured if she could stand on her own it'd be a smart move to put the two non-experienced puppets up against each other.

HOW is it that (you) the Private citizen is being touted as the debtor when the PRIVATE FED RESERVE loans CREDIT to other PRIVATE BANKS ???

noone222  posted on  2008-09-25   13:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: noone222 (#38)

Obaba would reveal the Barbie like interior of her brain.

angle  posted on  2008-09-25   14:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: angle (#39) (Edited)

Obaba would reveal...

...his empty, stuttering soul if his teleprompter stopped working.

I'm fully convinced that anybody on this forum could out-debate Obama on ANY topic, he's that shallow.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-09-25   14:07:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: X-15, anyone (#40)

When did they stop having 'real' debates?

When TV rolled around?

A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic traitors.

Lod  posted on  2008-09-25   14:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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