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Title: Biden dropping out? Rumor thrives on Internet
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URL Source: http://sarah-palin-2008.blogspot.co ... ping-out-rumor-thrives-on.html
Published: Sep 24, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-09-24 20:47:45 by Jethro Tull
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by Judson Berger Wednesday, September 24, 2008 It’s almost certainly just a case of the telephone game gone high-tech, but there’s an Internet rumor surging through inboxes and discussion boards that Joe Biden will drop out as Barack Obama’s running mate after his Oct. 2 debate with Sarah Palin — and that he’ll be replaced by Hillary Clinton on the Democratic presidential ticket. The story line goes as follows: John McCain’s selection of Palin has generated so much interest in the Republican ticket that Obama needs to make a radical move to regain momentum. So in the days after the vice presidential candidates debate in Missouri, Biden will bow out, citing “health problems” (Biden underwent surgery in 1988 to repair two brain aneurysms). Enter Clinton. Furthermore, the story goes, any damage the gaffe-prone Biden does during the debate will be erased by his abrupt exit. It sounds like a job for Fight the Smears, the Web site the Obama campaign set up to quash damaging Internet rumors. But Fight the Smears hasn’t touched this one, perhaps out of fear that it would only further a wild rumor. The Obama campaign has not commented on it, other than to say that Biden’s medical records will be released soon. Snopes.com, a site devoted to picking apart online rumors and urban legends, has labeled the status of the claim “undetermined.” Several online discussion boards have been loaded up with denials. Biden has caused a few hiccups for the Obama campaign. On Monday, he had to issue a clarification after he called one of his own campaign ads “terrible” in an interview with CBS News. He also faced a rebuke from Obama after he spoke out against the government bailout of American International Group last week before Obama was ready to take a position. On Tuesday, he said that President Franklin Roosevelt had gone on television in 1929 to discuss the Wall Street crash (Herbert Hoover was president in 1929 and the TV hadn’t been invented yet). At one point, he even said Hillary Clinton might have been a better pick for Obama’s No. 2. The Republican National Committee has gleefully set up a Biden “gaffe clock” to monitor his rhetorical flubs on the campaign trail. Nonetheless, Democratic supporters dismiss outright any speculation that he might be dropped from the ticket. “It’s crazy. … It’s just not gonna happen,” Democratic strategist Bob Beckel said. Dropping Biden from the ticket would be a throwback to George McGovern’s shocker in 1972, when he replaced running mate Thomas Eagleton after it was learned that Eagleton had undergone electro-shock therapy for depression. McGovern lost to President Nixon in a landslide, suggesting that seventh-inning lineup changes are not the best strategy for presidential candidates who want to shake things up. Speaking hypothetically, Beckel said that, if it were to happen, the Democratic National Committee could feasibly call a mini-convention of sorts to confirm a new running mate. He also said “it would be so disruptive” that it would make no sense for Obama to pursue such a change. Deadlines have passed in some states to send absentee ballots to military personnel and civilian voters overseas — meaning they would have received a ballot already with Biden (and Palin) on their parties’ tickets. “I doubt it,” said Christopher Hull, presidential scholar and adjunct government professor at Georgetown University, when told of the Biden rumor. “Joe Biden is not that big a liability. Joe Biden was arguably the most experienced candidate in the [Democratic primary] race.” “Joe Biden, of course, has shot off his mouth and gotten himself in trouble,” he added. “It’s Joe Biden we’re talking about.”
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#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
Had everyone heard the clip of him telling the guy in the wheel chair to stand up? Too funny. I'd love to see it if it is on YouTube. I've only heard it on radio.
Igor went with the surprise pick for VP and the pure audacity of it gave him a large surge. If timed correctly this might be a political move for which there is no answer. Of course what will the winner inherit?
Sure winner with Hillary aboard, it may be needed by Obummers floundering campaign.
Biden also had FDR as president during the crash of 1929 and on TV .
Biden will drop out the day after Bush or the Israel attacks Iran - any day now, that is.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
LOL. Staffers from Harvard too?
The radio DJs mentioned that as well. They also played a clip of Obama saying that "we are the ones we've been waiting for". Huh?
Biden has been in the Senate 35 long years, accomplished nothing. Now all of a sudden he is for change?????????????????
Obama/Clinton is a sure winner, if I were Obama, I would throw Biden under the bus.
Should have chosen that to start with. Changing now would lose votes I think. Was really stupid for the candidate for change to pick a running mate who has been there the longest. Actions speak louder than words.
In politics the dem strategy makes no sense. Hillary/Obama landslide win... Obama/Hillary sure win... both were rejected but why??? And then saddle Obama with Biden a sure loser. Makes no sense.
Here ya' go....Joe Biden, brain surgeon!
Drop and give me 50, grunt!
Makes no sense. If you assume they want to lose it makes perfect sense. They aren't stupid. Neither side seems to be trying very hard.
Foot in mouth disease. Obummer would be wise to send Biden off to the olde fools home until the election is over.
That's the real question. Some time for a promotion. No thanks.
Biden is a walking gaffe track.,,,an Irish windbag from Scranton. The Dark One will rue the day he chose this piggy.
Why on earth would anyone want to be president in 2009??????
That's been my theory for a while. When you look at the whole process through that lens, it gives you a very unique perspective.
Glad to see someone else is looking at this affair from a distance. When people become wrapped up in the charade of an election they lose sight of what is really going on. Too much emotion, my man is good, yours is bad, all nonsense.
Another realist.
Yes indeed, and a gentleman to boot. I wont label him a cynic as many people see that as a negative. I consider a cynic to be a realist that looks at everything from all angles.
Life's easier that way.
I came to value the hunter's points on lP.
You two should appreciate this...I hope. An optimist sees the glass as half full. A pessimist sees the same glass as half empty. A realist sees a glass with water in it.
A pragmatist sees a drink of water.
A realist who loves life takes a drink if he's thirsty.
I will have to incorporate that in my work. thanks.
I see I will have to get my brain out of low gear with you two.
I just took the hunter's idea one half a step further, heh.
I have often wondered what was the deal with this .... brain-dead walking zombie. Now I know. Faulty operation. His wife should sue the doctors.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.
Internet rumor? Bah. Now if the National Enquirer reports it, it's another story.
Biden is a bag of old dirty laundry for Obama to drag around. At least Hillary knows who she is and can speak well.
Joe has some confabulation going on. It happens to Scranton sots quite often.
Makes no sense. It does if the elites actually want McCain. Another election where the win is by electors rather than popular vote will secure getting rid of the electoral college. Then they only have to rig the votes in the major population centers.
Thanks!
Ain't that the truth! I agree with both Obama and McCain, neither one is worth voting for. Really sad thing is there is no good 3rd party candidate either. I can't believe that AIP here in California screwed it up and put Keyes on the ballot instead of Baldwin.
An engineer sees a glass that is twice the size it needs to be.
“It seems fair to regard negroes as on the average inferior to white men.” -- Bertrand Russell
Excellent. thank you. How bout this... A beer drinker would say someone stole half his beer.
Furthermore, the story goes, any damage the gaffe-prone Biden does during the debate will be erased by his abrupt exit.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#2. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#3. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#4. To: farmfriend (#1)
Had everyone heard the clip of him telling the guy in the wheel chair to stand up?
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
(Edited)
#6. To: Cynicom (#4)
Biden also had FDR as president during the crash of 1929 and on TV .
#7. To: Cynicom (#4)
Biden also had FDR as president during the crash of 1929 and on TV .
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#8. To: farmfriend (#7)
radio DJs mentioned that as well.
#9. To: farmfriend (#7)
#10. To: Cynicom (#9)
Obama/Clinton is a sure winner, if I were Obama, I would throw Biden under the bus.
Biden has been in the Senate 35 long years, accomplished nothing. Now all of a sudden he is for change?????????????????
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#11. To: farmfriend (#10)
#12. To: farmfriend (#1)
#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
#14. To: Cynicom (#11)
And then saddle Obama with Biden a sure loser.
#15. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
#16. To: duckhunter (#2)
Of course what will the winner inherit?
#17. To: Cynicom (#15)
#18. To: Jethro Tull, duckhunter (#16)
#19. To: Cynicom (#18)
Why on earth would anyone want to be president in 2009
#20. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#21. To: duckhunter (#19)
When you look at the whole process through that lens, it gives you a very unique perspective.
#22. To: Cynicom, duckhunter (#21)
#23. To: buckeye, duckhunter (#22)
Another realist.
#24. To: buckeye (#22)
Another realist.
#25. To: Cynicom (#23)
#26. To: duckhunter, buckeye (#24)
#27. To: Cynicom (#26)
A realist sees a glass with water in it.
#28. To: Cynicom (#26)
#29. To: duckhunter (#27)
A pragmatist sees a drink of water.
#30. To: buckeye, duckhunter (#28)
A realist who loves life takes a drink if he's thirsty.
#31. To: Cynicom (#30)
#32. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
(Biden underwent surgery in 1988 to repair two brain aneurysms).
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#0)
#34. To: angle (#33)
#35. To: richard9151 (#32)
#36. To: Cynicom, Original_Intent, lodwick, rotara, critter (#11)
And then saddle Obama with Biden a sure loser.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#38. To: Cynicom (#21)
When people become wrapped up in the charade of an election they lose sight of what is really going on. Too much emotion, my man is good, yours is bad, all nonsense.
"You have delusions of adequacy."
#39. To: Cynicom, duckhunter, buckeye (#26)
#40. To: Tauzero, buckeye, duck hunter (#39)
An engineer sees a glass that is twice the size it needs to be.
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