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Title: Breaking News from Big Eddie: McCain Camp insiders say Palin "clueless"
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URL Source: http://www.wegoted.com/todayonshow/index.asp
Published: Sep 26, 2008
Author: Ed Shultz
Post Date: 2008-09-26 23:07:57 by richard9151
Keywords: None
Views: 540
Comments: 58

Capitol Hill sources are telling me that senior McCain people are more than concerned about Palin.

The campaign has held a mock debate and a mock press conference; both are being described as "disastrous." One senior McCain aide was quoted as saying, "What are we going to do?" The McCain people want to move this first debate to some later, undetermined date, possibly never. People on the inside are saying the Alaska Governor is "clueless."

Now We Know Why The McCain Campaign Is Hiding Palin

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#18. To: Cynicom, nikki (#17)

I've been extra scrappy today, too.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-27   21:17:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Cynicom (#15)

the sheep busy themselves choosing sides

Already dissed 'em all plenty as you know. You're just stuck on Palin and it shows. I'm ready to post another one called Mad Dog Palin...look for it.

Cyni and sarah sittin in a tree....k i s s i n g

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-27   21:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nikki (#16)

The playing field will be levelled in days.

A bit unnerving to me.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-27   21:18:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: angle, nikki (#20)

I keep saying that unrest and financial instability tips the balance toward the tyrants.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-27   21:20:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Cynicom (#17)

Good heavens...

Barbed wire and meat sauce for supper tonite????

I will cower under me desk if someone yells "incoming".

Ha!

Don't ask what's in the sauce. " ;)

nikki  posted on  2008-09-27   21:20:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: angle (#19)

You're just stuck on Palin and it shows.

Just cause she is a girl.

I have been thinkin bout liquidating and moving to Alaska.

Cept it gets cold there.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-27   21:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: nikki (#22)

Don't ask what's in the sauce. " ;)

Tacks for spice?

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-27   21:21:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#23)

Just cause she is a girl.

I know that's it. You're a softie but you better smarten up...even women are suicide bombers.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-27   21:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: buckeye (#21)

unrest and financial instability tips the balance toward the tyrants

unbalance makes it less easy to control

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-27   21:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Cynicom (#11)

James...

Dont tell angle that governors dominate the former presidents list.

Former Senators runs second.

Yes, and out of the current crop--that is, those who are running on the D and R tickets--it doesn't make all that much difference which one of them wins. America still loses. They could just flip a coin and take turns sitting in the big chair in the White House.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-27   21:34:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: nikki (#12)

The attacks on Palin embolden the base. But it's a weird ass game for the nimrods that focus on the toob, their email talking points and their partisan playbook. If they had a gd brain, they'd see the game. But pissy nothingness is what politically funded blogs is all about. To screw with the minds of people and distract them from men behind the curtain. Dumbasses

Testify! Great post.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-27   21:35:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#24)

Tacks for spice?

Why not?

nikki  posted on  2008-09-27   21:38:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: James Deffenbach (#28)

Testify! Great post.

Thank you. Just telling it like it is. Game has been played against us. Time to call .

nikki  posted on  2008-09-27   21:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Cynicom (#13)

Vote on, support the system, the ruling elite love you.

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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-27   21:45:33 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: angle (#14)

Mr. James. Get up to speed. The above has already been established. The Palin threads are for those here still duped by her.

So then, in your mind, Obama, McCain and Biden are all better than Palin. Why? They are all tools of the establishment and that is borne out by the fact that they would not be in the positions they are in if they weren't. So what makes them better than her?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-27   21:47:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#15)

Dissing one but not all is falling into line like a good sheep. The system loves it when the sheep busy themselves choosing sides, keeps them from thinking for themselves.

Indeed. Thinking people concluded long ago that the house runs a crooked game. And it doesn't matter that much how "cute" or "handsome" or "pretty" the sellouts are. They are still in league with those who would destroy America.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-27   21:49:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: James Deffenbach, cynicom (#27)

America still loses. They could just flip a coin and take turns sitting in the big chair in the White House.

Cynicom may get his wish to salivate over President Palin. Then you both can post to each other about what a babe she is. I've had enough election and gubmint nonsense.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-28   9:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: nikki (#30)

Time to call .

bump

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-28   9:40:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: angle (#34)

Cynicom may get his wish to salivate over President Palin. Then you both can post to each other about what a babe she is. I've had enough election and gubmint nonsense.

Palin is pretty enough, at least outwardly. But I wouldn't vote for her for President. Now, having said that, I don't think she is any less qualified than McCain, Obama, or Biden. None of them are qualified if you compare them to someone like Ron Paul.

If you have "had enough election and gubmint nonsense" why are you posting to and reading things on a political board? That doesn't make much sense.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-28   10:16:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: James Deffenbach (#36)

I don't think she is any less qualified than McCain, Obama, or Biden.

This statement is the kind of nonsense I've had enough of. She is certainly less qualified than many many many educated, worldly and intelligent people.

In addition, her rabid christian rapture views are dangerous as well. There's nothing intelligent, articulate or principled about this sellout of a woman. Biden and Obama are intelligent and articulate and worldly but not principled and are both sell-outs. McCain is lesser than those two and also a non- principled sellout. I'm not voting for Palin or any of the others for President. But others here will.

That's why I'm posting articles to present the other side to the Palin propaganda nonsense. Yet you keep defending her. There's nothing to defend and your posts make me wonder what your position truly is.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-28   11:47:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: James Deffenbach (#36)

Now, having said that, I don't think she is any less qualified than McCain, Obama, or Biden. None of them are qualified if you compare them to someone like Ron Paul.

The sheep are arguing among themselves about who is qualified or not qualified just as the ruling elite desire.

I place my likes rather tongue in cheek, on the basis that Palin is a girl, some people cannot see that is just as good a barometer as anything in this charade.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-28   12:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: RickyJ, richard9151, angle (#2) (Edited)

Palin is good at speeches but she very well might go down in flames in a debate. She is pretty clueless, but that is also what makes her able to win voters

Palin's cluelessness is a net plus for the GOP ticket. People vote for candidates that they identify with, so naturally the folks who go home and watch "American Idol" and "Dancing with the Stars" love a candidate with a third grader's grasp of world politics and economics.

Palin ought to be an embarassment to McCain, instead, she draws bigger crowds than he does. All of her idiotic statements sound like common sense wisdom to her audience. That doesn't say much for the electorate.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-28   14:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: angle (#37) (Edited)

In addition, her rabid christian rapture views are dangerous as well. There's nothing intelligent, articulate or principled about this sellout of a woman. Biden and Obama are intelligent and articulate and worldly but not principled and are both sell-outs. McCain is lesser than those two and also a non- principled sellout. I'm not voting for Palin or any of the others for President. But others here will.

When it comes to policy, I disagree with all four candidates to the same degree. Obama is slightly worse than McCain on economics and social issues, McCain is slightly worse on foreign policy. Not enough to matter.

The only thing that makes Palin any worse than the other three is that when the others speak, it isn't as obvious how ignorant they are. She seems to be almost proud of her ignorance. But as I say, that may prove to be a net positive when it comes to winning votes.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-28   15:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#39)

That doesn't say much about the electorate.

Ouch. actually, it says it ALL about the electorate. Unfortunately.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest. ++++++++++ Attention, Shrub; A life of evil is ultimately a life of wretchedness.

richard9151  posted on  2008-09-28   15:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: richard9151 (#41) (Edited)

I meant to say "for," not "about." But you get my drift about how ignorance is an asset, not a liability for politicians.

George W. Bush managed to turn his ignorance to his advantage. Bush's cluelessness made him seem "folksy" - people forgot that Dumbya was an East Coast blueblood and thought of him as one of their own.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-09-28   15:22:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#42)

Here's "Caribou Barbie on the Bailout:

" That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, were ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health-care reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, helping the—it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health-care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans. And trade, we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as a competitive, scary thing. But one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we've got to look at that as more opportunity. All those things under the umbrella of job creation. This bailout is a part of that. "

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-28   15:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: angle (#37)

Yet you keep defending her. There's nothing to defend and your posts make me wonder what your position truly is.

Is it "defending" someone to say that they are no worse than the other alleged choices? More like damning them with faint praise where I am from, maybe not with you. And if you can't figure out what my position is then English must not be your primary language. I have certainly made my position in regard to the establishment and its candidates clear enough that anyone of average intelligence should know exactly what it is.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-28   18:25:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Cynicom (#38)

The sheep are arguing among themselves about who is qualified or not qualified just as the ruling elite desire.

I place my likes rather tongue in cheek, on the basis that Palin is a girl, some people cannot see that is just as good a barometer as anything in this charade.

Yeah, it is pathetic, isn't it? Got four people, not a one of them qualified to run anything much bigger than a popsicle stand, yet one is talked about as if she is so much worse than the men who don't have a clue either. Fair is fair, none of them are qualified to be president and none of them would last a week in the job if the people took it seriously about the first time they violated that oath they have to take to hold the office.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-28   18:28:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: James Deffenbach (#45)

James...

Somewhere I said the sheep were so well trained that they would discuss and argue over what type of rope their master was going to hang them with.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-28   18:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Cynicom (#46)

Somewhere I said the sheep were so well trained that they would discuss and argue over what type of rope their master was going to hang them with.

Or the proper voltage for the electric chair or what caliber bullet they should be shot with.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-28   19:44:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: James Deffenbach (#44)

I have certainly made my position in regard to the establishment and its candidates clear enough that anyone of average intelligence should know exactly what it is.

As have I, yet you persist in accusing me of being an Obama supporter when I point out the problems with Palin. Yes, she's clearly less intelligent than the others, ie worse. Does that make me an Obama supporter? NO.

"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson

angle  posted on  2008-09-28   20:08:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: angle (#48)

As have I, yet you persist in accusing me of being an Obama supporter when I point out the problems with Palin. Yes, she's clearly less intelligent than the others, ie worse. Does that make me an Obama supporter? NO.

Less intelligent than Obama? What, does she have to get people to tie her shoes because she can't learn how? Or does someone have to drive her to her office because she can't remember the way? If she is not as intelligent as Obama she wouldn't have ever even been considered for VP because no one outside of her immediate family and friends would have ever heard of her. Have you ever heard Obama trying to talk without a teleprompter and a prepared speech? It's scary.

Having said all that, it doesn't mean I would vote for her. But fair is fair and she is no worse than any of the ones you seem to think are so much better.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-09-28   20:22:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: angle (#48)

Yes, she's clearly less intelligent than the others, ie worse. Does that make me an Obama supporter? NO.

Clearly less intelligent????

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-28   20:34:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Cynicom, angle (#50)

She's intelligent enough to play Zionist Christian hussy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-28   20:35:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: buckeye, angle (#51)

She's intelligent enough to play Zionist Christian hussy.

I was reading a LONG list of politicians that have "discovered" they are Jews in the past few years.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-28   20:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Cynicom (#52)

Based on my conversations with people they only need to be "converted" to see the light.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-28   20:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Cynicom (#50)

Clearly less intelligent????

Very clearly less so. A month after her pick, she can't articulate a foreign or economic policy. Either she doesn't care cure her ignorance, or she is not able to due to lack of intelligence. The way McCain has been pushing her, it has to be the later.

And a stupid person is more dangerous than a wrong intelligent person. An intelligent person isn't so easily taken advantage of.

Rhino369  posted on  2008-09-28   21:22:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Rhino369 (#54)

What ignorance? She knows which way Tel Aviv and Russia are.

buckeye  posted on  2008-09-28   21:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom (#38)

I place my likes rather tongue in cheek, on the basis that Palin is a girl, some people cannot see that is just as good a barometer as anything in this charade.

really, "it's the entertainment, stupid."

;)

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christine  posted on  2008-09-28   21:54:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Rhino369 (#54)

A month after her pick, she can't articulate a foreign or economic policy.

I rest my case...

Bush has an MBA and take a look at our current status.

Presidents get paid not for "articulating" anything, rather they have to make decisions.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-09-28   22:56:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Cynicom (#57)

I rest my case...

Bush has an MBA and take a look at our current status.

Bush got passed along due to his family status. MBA's aren't even hard to get, just hard to get into a good program(unless you are connected). Once in everyone passes. Bush didn't even do that well.

Sarah Palin had to go from school to school to get a fricken journalism degree. She went to 5 different schools (none known for anything), before finally getting a degree. Seriously how smart can you be if you have to hit 5 different schools to get an undergrad in journalism. In fact I'm not even sure how that is possible. I'm guessing her chest isn't the only place she got D's during college.

Presidents get paid not for "articulating" anything, rather they have to make decisions.

You can't make good decisions if you don't know anything about the situation. She has proven she doesn't know anything about many situations.

And yes, a good president does have to articulate a great deal of things if he plans on getting anything done.

And I'm not sure you want to use George Bush as the standard of who you'll support for President, and even if you do, I don't think Palin would even meet that.

Rhino369  posted on  2008-09-30   4:50:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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