Title: Ferret Mike's friend Videotaped While educating police dumb enough to stop him Source:
You Tube URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KHd6eAUjGM Published:Sep 27, 2008 Author:Tim Lewis Post Date:2008-09-27 18:23:18 by Ferret Mike Keywords:None Views:973 Comments:89
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5 EPD vehicles pull over a car in the Whiteaker neighborhood and the cops handcuff the wrong person while they get a ear full.
Poster Comment:
Henry and I go back a long way. He is a hard working woods worker who owns his own home and has spent many years planting trees, doing pre-commercial thinning of tree stands, fire bossing twenty man single resource wild land fire crews, and has been a political activist for many years.
He won a large settlement when railroad dicks slammed him to the ground on tracks near his home accusing him of trespassing the right of way while retrieving his dog so he could go to work.
He also had a memorable moment in Salem with a fellow activist who had hung a dummy of the Children's Service Department director in effigy on the State Capital grounds protesting heavy handed interference in people's lives when they pulled kids, usually because they objected to the parent's political and social outlook on life.
The legislature was in session and the Republicans then and they heard about the dummy, so they came out directly from the House chamber to scream at him and "how dare him" because the then director was an African American woman.
That made the papers at that time, and Henry and I go a long long way back having worked and run together for decades.
His parents were college professors before retiring, and Henry is very politically informed.
Tim Lewis has been the Cop Watch organizer for a long time and has restarted the organization. One I have been arrested doing work observing and videotaping for. The police were very much irritated and intimidated by the camera and this helped convince them to take the cuffs off as you see them do.
Shine On, the woman with the pulled back dreads is a very close friend of mine as well. This is also my neighborhood. We will be producing and posting more Cop Watch videos as we get the organization back up to speed.
I agree, and my whole point of joining the Free Republic's corps of blockhead posters was to listen to what conservative had to say and to see where the left and right had common cause way back in the late nineties.
My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along.
Many on the right have the opposite perspective, but this is one of many dynamics about points of view we need to understand if people of different perspectives are ever going to ever be able to unite when it is important to do so to ensure mutual defense.
A united community always gives the ubers pause to act to control and oppress.
This must change. When you make it hard for them to pick one group off at a time, everyone is protected.
We must learn to protect each other against common enemies, or none of us will have our separate and cherished different perspectives to enjoy and associate in regards to any longer.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along.
We're going to differ on this one, as I think to a large extent this is a partisan observation. We are an individualist and self-reliant people who find it difficult to let down our interpersonal barriers even to the extent of spending time with people with whom we have no immediate need to interact, let alone forming idealogical alliances and activity patterns. This has tended to work against us, and it presents an indifferent and "intolerant" face to the world. But what of that world? It has been changed around us by force of government policy, immigration policy, and foreign policy. It has been changed around us by the information revolution and the onslaught of increasing levels of socialist reform.
It would be better not to stand out in the middle between our two peoples and say that because we are rednecks, we are more vulnerable to the challenge of divide and conquer. That's a gross misrepresentation of our way of life. We do not want to be involved with community organizers. We do not want to be shackled to collectivized patterns. That is exactly what has backed up our ire. To truly respect our diversity, one must accept that we want to be left alone to thrive. That we can do under a variety of circumstances. But to demand that we collectivize as a sign of our good will is to ask us to become something we'd rather not be.
Now I realize I am making some generalizations here. Rednecks took government cheese, welfare, and Works Progress jobs. Of course. And rednecks can be racist and intolerant. But some of us were the people who joined Lincoln to fight slavery. Some of us fought to save Jews in Europe and liberate the Chinese from the Japanese in Asia. We have had freedom in this country because of redneck sensibilities. We need to find common ground beyond the old cliche that rednecks are divisive by nature. And we can. I know you can and have, too. I just wanted to point that out.
We're on the receiving end of the restructuring by government fiat. That's why we bristle so much. But we don't all bite, and we know that the same globalist forces are raping the wilderness, enslaving third world workers, polluting the public water sources, misinforming the youth in our educational systems, and manipulating the monetary system for someone else's benefit besides the common people. There is much to unite us, but the issue of abolishing our ethnic concerns is not one of them. And for "diversity's sake" it shouldn't even be on the table. We are now part of the diversity quilt, as an inevitable minority group. Welcome us as such.
Picture Eugene - THE VORTEX Peace loving hippies gather at Maurie Jacobs park to drum, dance, and barter in the summer of 1995. Eugene police arrive to ruin the vibe and drive these loveable folks into a frenzied mass.
Him and Larry, the other involved were so obviously not racially prejudiced when legislators made this play which got the media checking everything out about the protest action.
It created quite a stir when it happened. The Whiteaker neighborhood is the ground zero of the Eugene anarchist and activist community. The police are nervous about anything happening in Whiteaker because they well know how fast we build the kicked hornet's nest effect if need be.
One interesting development in recent months is the halt of police harassment and overt monitoring of Critical mass rides every month. They should of left Critical Mass alone a long time ago, as so this is cynically considered by most people to be a tactical move that will eventually be reversed in a shock fashion using contrived excuses making that a necessary move.
The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
Most folks are prepared to start taking out Government officials these days.
Critical Mass deserves whatever crap gets thrown at them IMO. Had to deal with them in San Francisco and they lost all support for their cause with their antics back then. Then they got me on the "have them arrested" bandwagon because I had to pepper-spray one of them off of me one day. I can put on a pretty good "mess with me and die" stance. Not so far from the truth actually....
But you and I both know that there is no such thing as a "Real Republican" in the State of Oregon. Gordon Smith is a RINO as is Kevin Mannix. They're just Democrats who don't want to call themselves that.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
This short on the block party is two houses away from where Henry was harrassed.
As you can see by the usual suspects in my community, we all all poster boys and girls.
This is at the Whiteaker Cocktail Society.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Critical Mass in Eugene is tighter, calmer and less confrontational then the rides you speak of.
Though one Critical Mass ride I had the cops boiling mad at me when I was quoted in the Register Guard that they had also blocked an ambulance taking a boy who had accidentally shot himself making them take the long way. That it was not necessarily the riders fault, as had the cops not been there, people would of gotten out of the way.
They didn't like to be invited to share the blame. The boy was not as badly injured as had been feared and is alive and well. This was about eight years ago.
It was the ride that changed the nature of Critical Mass rides here to be done responsibly and with regard for others who use the road. Not to mention everyone is used to seeing them the last Friday of every month.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
I saw your video. They released your buddy. So at least they came around on what was apparently a mistake.
The video doesn't show him originally being arrested and what led to it. The people in the video said there was a robbery. So the police were responding to a legitimate crime, and apparently got the wrong guy. They released him when they apparently found that out. They probably shouldn't have cuffed him and just questioned him first. My bet is that he got loud and mouthy and then they put the cuffs on him. He seems like that type that wants to take on authority. I'm not saying that it is wrong or your friend was wrong to "get loud". (which is my hunch of what happened.) I like people who fight authority.
We must learn to protect each other against common enemies..
People such yourself seem to be part of the problem. Any group that trains police to act like the Gestapo would be considered an enemy in my book, yet you support them.
I wish that I could concur. I have no desire at this stage of the game to attempt to understand someone that supports groups, like the ADL, that have an active hand in setting up the police state even after all of the proof of that group's complicity has been handed to them.
While we've been busy trying to understand, they've been undermining. I don't participate in that vicious cycle anymore.
I'll let FM answer that, but I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America. I know FM is a collectivist. Right now on Wall Street, we're looking at what happens when collectivism poses as conservatism, and that's 10 times more dangerous. With FM what you see is what you get. A forum like this is for trading ideas and facts. He's very strong in both regards.
I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America.
As am I. I have Jewish friends that hate the ADL more than I do. I have no more patience for stupid Jews or stupid goyim that think the ADL and other branches of the NWO do 'good works'. All they're good for is rhetorical target practice on net forums.
On both posts: FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial. I cut him some slack because of this. I think no less of him because of it, and in fact, he's a credit to his people for being such a strong defender of liberty and the environment. Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist. And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right. Once, maybe. I'm assuming this is what FM means :)
I had a sense that he was holding similar opinions, and I still give him the benefit of the doubt while reserving the right to disagree with him anywhere, anytime, on any issue.
We're here to exchange views, and I'm glad he's here. I try to convince him to see things my way sometimes. And likewise. That's a forum.
#35. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike, Tauzero, Cynicom, christine, Lady X, angle (#29)
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"As for their [ADL] good work, that is obvious as they have researched and documented people places and organizations who promote religious, racial and other bigotry quite well and I have found them to be a useful source of material when I have needed such data. "
Horse-hockey. My grandmother's Jewish and I'm not 'sensitive' to those that are less than fond of Jews.
Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist.
No state has a right to exist. Only individuals are born with that right. States exist through the exercise of power, not by right.
And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right.
I'm still waiting for someone to name ONE thing the ADL has done that's good or right. The examples that Mike used above of researching and documenting 'bigotry' is horribly flawed due to all of the outright fabrications and cover-ups contained in their research.
It's like saying the Cheka did 'good works'.
We're here to exchange views
Agreed. My view is that anyone that supports the ADL while claiming opposition to the police state is full of shit.
You make some great points. Thanks for digging up those quotes. I'll be looking forward to hearing the responses. (I agree with your comment about states, and I may have misquoted Rob, who probably agrees more with what you said, as well.)
You are bringing shit up from way back when I joined 4UM. Some of my views have changed, some have not. I didn't know much about this virtual community then, now I do. As I inferred, play your try to bait the ferret games all you want to do here.
This is what you do, entertain yourself by trying to make others squirm. I am not impressed, and I don't give a shit about your game here. It is your problem, not mine.
Later alligator.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
As far as the ADL goes, I support Good work they have done just as I support Israel's right to exist
I'm always amazed by people that make statements such as this. They may claim they are against hate and discrimination, in principle. Yet, they support the "right to exist" of a state that has an official national policy that condones hate and discrimination against all gentiles.
Israel has no public laws prohibiting hate speech, hate crime, or hate discrimination perpetrated by jews against gentiles. By design, gentiles are an enforced minority inside Israel, and many gentiles living inside Israel cannot even vote. The ADL is doubtlessly aware of this fact, and know that jews are double-dealing hypocrites. The real mystery is why non-jews who claim to oppose hate and discrimination still support Israeli hypocrisy.
The word "Israel" literally means "jewish people", so it is reasonable to assume that the state of Israel is the embodiment of mainstream jewish law. Some US politicians go so far as to claim that Israel is an ideal. I can understand why professional politicians might say such things, as they naturally tend toward tyranny.
The highly organized and tax-exempt Anti-Defamation League of Bad Breath (ADL) is the enemy of White resistance. Those who align themselves with the ADL, the SPLC, Simon Wiesenthal Center and other "hate group" watchdogs are like our resident biracial polecat, Mike. They will ally with all the various protected minorities in coalition with sick liberals, law enforcement, court officers and the news and entertainment industry to fight "right-wing extremist hate groups/domestic terrorists" (read: Eurocentric separatist activists).
Polecat Mike won't be happy until everyone else is a mongrel like him. It ain't about the right-wing and the left-wing uniting to fight White "haters." It's about dispossessing the White majority; about putting the bottom rail on the top and the top rail on the bottom, just like in the egalitarian Bible story and with the egalitarian snivil rights movement.
This has tended to work against us, and it presents an indifferent and "intolerant" face to the world.
The definition of tolerance is to disapprove but not punish. Today, whites lock up blacks and hispanics for crimes they commit, but do not generally disapprove of blacks and hispanics per se.
This is indeed "intolerance", as in the complete opposite of tolerance. But when most white people say the word intolerance, what they have in mind is disapproval and punishment. Thus, whites maintain that they are not intolerant, while darkie maintains that they are. Whites are talking about the disapproval of darkie; darkie is talking about the punishment of crimes.
Whites are generally retarded about that.
As it happens, I do disapprove of blacks and hispanics in the aggregate. As long as they live among us I will be intolerant, by practically anybody's definition, including my own. And I don't think that's a bad thing.
There is much to unite us, but the issue of abolishing our ethnic concerns is not one of them.
You're right -- white genocide is not negotiable for the Kossacks, either. Everything else is.
But I'm not worried about them. Like homos, they don't usually reproduce, and there will always be a few around. Most will soon die of old age, or remove themselves from the white gene pool by miscegenation, leaving fewer race traitors for my children to contend with.
We are now part of the diversity quilt, as an inevitable minority group.
This is retarded. It's a good appeal from darkie to whitey, but doesn't work in the reverse.
They ain't that dumb.
Whites have always been a global minority. That's not what's different. What's different is white surrender of their lands and institutions.
That, too, is non-negotiable for the Kossacks.
Whites have always been a minority. So have Jews. Neither will ever be just another minority.
It seems fair to regard negroes as on the average inferior to white men. -- Bertrand Russell
Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling." -- Benito Mussolini
They may claim they are against hate and discrimination, in principle. Yet, they support the "right to exist" of a state that has an official national policy that condones hate and discrimination against all gentiles.
People that claim support for Israel and its various organs (ADL, AJC, etc) and then wear the cloak of tolerance, anti-hate and all of the other meaningless PC terms are either willing or unwilling idiots for the Zionist hydra.
At this stage in the game when the various heads of the hydra (Bernanke, Mukasey, Chertoff, et. al.) are financing and building the police state in America, such willing and unwilling idiots are of no more use except for rhetorical target practice. Those idiots either need to change their perceptions of reality or get lost in the coming backlash.
You came into hijack this thread with your own agenda. You bother me with your one note Charley acting very arrogant and demanding.
I don't need that crap the last weeks before an important election, or is that a factor in your timing here?
We are done, period, no more exchanges on the topic. I will be happy to post back to you on any issue but your pet one.
There is more to life then your ADL hamster exercise wheel you like to run yourself ragged on.
Post in regard to the thread header. Anything else I won't even bother wasting time on.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
Communication is fine and dandy, but I have a very difficult time finding common ground with people that wittingly or unwittingly advocate the incipient police state.
"Communication is fine and dandy, but I have a very difficult time finding common ground with people that wittingly or unwittingly advocate the incipient police state."
That quote shows what a poor communicator you are. I have found you generally impossible to talk to. You are still hijacking the thread, and how you expect me to be receptive you your arcane interrogatories when you piss and shit on anything you don't like and refuse to budge from your one issue side show is beyond me.
The passive aggressive insults are noted. Their inaccuracy is noted. That's all I see I can do for you here, is note that.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn