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Title: Ferret Mike's friend Videotaped While educating police dumb enough to stop him
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KHd6eAUjGM
Published: Sep 27, 2008
Author: Tim Lewis
Post Date: 2008-09-27 18:23:18 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 944
Comments: 89
-- 5 EPD vehicles pull over a car in the Whiteaker neighborhood and the cops handcuff the wrong person while they get a ear full.
Poster Comment: Henry and I go back a long way. He is a hard working woods worker who owns his own home and has spent many years planting trees, doing pre-commercial thinning of tree stands, fire bossing twenty man single resource wild land fire crews, and has been a political activist for many years. He won a large settlement when railroad dicks slammed him to the ground on tracks near his home accusing him of trespassing the right of way while retrieving his dog so he could go to work. He also had a memorable moment in Salem with a fellow activist who had hung a dummy of the Children's Service Department director in effigy on the State Capital grounds protesting heavy handed interference in people's lives when they pulled kids, usually because they objected to the parent's political and social outlook on life. The legislature was in session and the Republicans then and they heard about the dummy, so they came out directly from the House chamber to scream at him and "how dare him" because the then director was an African American woman. That made the papers at that time, and Henry and I go a long long way back having worked and run together for decades. His parents were college professors before retiring, and Henry is very politically informed. Tim Lewis has been the Cop Watch organizer for a long time and has restarted the organization. One I have been arrested doing work observing and videotaping for. The police were very much irritated and intimidated by the camera and this helped convince them to take the cuffs off as you see them do. Shine On, the woman with the pulled back dreads is a very close friend of mine as well. This is also my neighborhood. We will be producing and posting more Cop Watch videos as we get the organization back up to speed.
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#1. To: All (#0)
Bad editting, The Republicans were then in control of the State House and Senate was what that was supposed to say.
God - you guys are more screwed up than is Austin. Good luck with it out there.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic traitors.
Good work, FM.
The revolution will not be televised.
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson
Yes, it can be bad here. You have to understand that Eugene is an Oasis of a metro area where the counterculture and many political activists enclaved when the free wheeling 1960s and early 1970s was winding down. The FBI consider it one of their 'happy hunting grounds' and sends new agents in to do their final field training before becoming agents. The police is very well armed and equipped. They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere. I wonder what's up with this.
Thanks, I will pass the compliment on to Henry, Tim and company.
I wonder what's up with this. I think you'll find this trend is nationwide. IMHO, the authorities are anticipating a lot of very serious civil unrest in the very short term, most likely due to a massive economic implosion. Rather than build up infrastructure to support and care for people, they're investing in more tools to repress and control people. All things considered, I think we're in for some ugly times coming soon.
The legislature was in session and the Republicans then
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#3. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#5. To: lodwick (#2)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#6. To: buckeye (#3)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
The police is very well armed and equipped. They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere.
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#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
It's another reminder how much the left and the right have in common. Ron Paul's four tenets should unite us as much as possible:
This is enough work for a lifetime — for both sides.
#9. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
I wonder what's up with this. Here's half the problem. Funny how the ADL will NEVER criticize cops in America: ADL Training US Police Departments across the country.. For What Purpose? Are Abe Foxman and the Zionist ADL training US Police to be their private armies? When your door gets kicked down at 3 am in the morning, you'd better have on your yarmulke, have a menorah visible and a Star of David Flag draped over one wall... or else! Here's a few samples on what the Zionists are teaching American cops to do: ADL Participates in First Annual Urban Shield Training Exercise in California Posted: November 14, 2007 An Anti-Defamation League expert participated in the first annual Urban Shield training exercise in Oakland, California. Urban Shield is a large-scale training exercise and competition sponsored by the Alameda County Sheriff's Office. It involves over 20 SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics) teams from throughout the country, and is designed to test each team's tactical ability to cope with a variety of real-life emergency scenarios. The exercise took place continuously over a 24-hour period, beginning and ending at 5:00 am. It included different scenarios conducted at 22 training venues (or checkpoints) throughout Alameda County. Two-Day Law Enforcement Training Held in Utah Posted: January 14, 2008 Federal, state, and local law enforcement from across Utah gathered for a presentation from an Anti-Defamation League expert on right-wing extremism in West Valley City, Utah. The training took place over two days and was held at the West Lake City Police Department Headquarters, just outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. Approximately 150 officers assembled for the ADL expert's informative presentation on the ideologies, symbols, and criminal activities associated with right-wing extremists in the area. The expert also discussed the proliferation of white supremacists in the anti-immigration movement, emphasizing recent trends and tactics used by extremists to exploit anti-immigration sentiment in the region and across the United States. U.S. Military Investigators Trained Posted: December 11, 2007 An Anti-Defamation League expert conducted a law enforcement training at the Fort Leonard Wood United States Army Basic Combat Training Post in the Missouri Ozarks in December. Nearly 70 attendees, representing several military units, participated including the Anti-Terrorism Branch, Non-Commissioned Officer Academy, Equal Employment Office, Military Police Investigation, Basic Military Police Training, 14th Military Police Brigade, Marine Detachment, and the 1st Engineering Brigade. Training the US Army's Military Police? To do what, torture Iraqi's, using the brutal tactics of the Israeli Shin Bet? Other training sessions and the infected departments: ADL Presents for New Mexico Law Enforcement 05/02/08 Briefing on domestic extremism for the Albuquerque FBI. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Wisconsin 05/02/08 Training at a Terrorism Conference sponsored by the Wisconsin Department of Justice. ADL Provides Series of Trainings to NYPD 05/02/08 First two sessions held in four-part series on domestic extremism for the NYPD in Brooklyn. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Idaho 05/01/08 Law enforcement from across the Pacific Northwest received training on extremism. ADL Provides Training to Wyoming DOC 05/01/08 Two day training sponsored by the Wyoming DOC. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Arizona 05/01/08 Gang squad recruits in Tucson received a presentation on domestic extremism. ADL Trains Las Vegas Law Enforcement 05/01/08 Presentation at the third Annual Gang Conference sponsored by the LVMPD. ADL Presents to the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Command Staff 04/02/08 Presentation for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) command staff at the 2008 ICE Leadership Conference ADL Trains Missouri Law Enforcement 04/02/08 Training sponsored by the Missouri Police Chief's Charitable Foundation and the Missouri School Resource Officers Association. ADL Trains Police Departments on Cape Cod 03/25/08 The Provincetown and Truro, Massachusetts, Police Departments participated in a hate crime training session. ADL Presents Counterterrorism Course in San Diego 02/14/08 Training Held for San Diego District Attorney's Office 01/24/08 Training on the California white supremacist subculture held in San Diego. Training Held for U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, DC 01/17/08 Members of the DC Bias Crimes Task Force gathered for a presentation on right-wing extremism and hate activity. Two-Day Law Enforcement Training Held in Utah 01/14/08 Federal, state, and local law enforcement from across Utah gathered for a presentation on right-wing extremism in West Valley City, Utah. U.S. Military Investigators Trained 12/11/07 Military units participated in a training at the U.S. Army Basic Combat Training Post in the Missouri Ozarks. Senior Law Enforcement Personnel Attend Anti-Terrorism Course in DC 12/10/07 The twelfth session of ADL's course on extremist and terrorist threats was held on December 2-4, 2007. Training Held at FBI National Academy 12/04/07 Information on extremist use of the Internet was presented at the FBI National Academy. Law Enforcement Training in Illinois 12/04/07 Federal, state, and local law enforcement officials met in Springfield, Illinois, for a presentation on extremism. California Law Enforcement Attend Training 12/04/07 Law enforcement officers in Ventura, California, attended a training on domestic extremism in November 2007. Senior Law Enforcement Travel to Israel for Counterterrorism Training 11/15/07 Senior law enforcement executives traveled to Israel to learn counterterrorism tactics and strategies. ADL Participates in First Annual Urban Shield Training Exercise in California 11/14/07 ADL participated in the fist annual Urban Shield training exercise held in Oakland, California. Training Held for Traffic Court Judges in Seattle 11/01/07 A presentation on anti-government extremism was held for the American Bar Association's Judicial Division in Seattle. Law Enforcement Trainings Held in Massachusetts 10/18/07 Two extremism trainings were held for Massachusetts law enforcement. California Law Enforcement Attend Training 10/18/07 Information was presented on terrorists' and extremists' use of the Internet to law enforcement in the California. Training Held for Members of the Association for Uniform Crime Reporting Programs in Michigan 10/18/07 Members of the Association for Uniform Crime Reporting Programs received information on extremism in Michigan. Training Held for Dallas Police Department 10/16/07 Law enforcement officers from the Dallas Police Department received information on extremists' use of the Internet. Pennsylvania Law Enforcement Attend Training 10/16/07 Pennsylvania law enforcement met for a training on extremism and hate crime legislation in Conshohocken, Pennsylvania. Domestic Terrorism Training Held in Western New York 10/16/07 Information on domestic terrorism was presented to law enforcement in Western New York. Extremism Training Held in Missouri 09/26/07 Officers from across Missouri gathered for an extremism training in Jefferson City, Missouri. Michigan Law Enforcement Attend Training 09/20/07 Law enforcement from across Michigan gathered in Livonia for a presentation on right-wing extremism. Training Provided to District Court Magistrates in Michigan 09/20/07 A training on anti-government extremism was held for the Michigan Association of District Court Magistrates. Training Provided to New Mexico Law Enforcement 09/05/07 Law enforcement officers from across New Mexico received a presentation on right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism. Domestic Terrorism Training Held for Pennsylvania State Troopers 08/30/07 State troopers from across Pennsylvania received information on right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism.
They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere.
#10. To: buckeye (#8)
I agree, and my whole point of joining the Free Republic's corps of blockhead posters was to listen to what conservative had to say and to see where the left and right had common cause way back in the late nineties. My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along. Many on the right have the opposite perspective, but this is one of many dynamics about points of view we need to understand if people of different perspectives are ever going to ever be able to unite when it is important to do so to ensure mutual defense. A united community always gives the ubers pause to act to control and oppress. This must change. When you make it hard for them to pick one group off at a time, everyone is protected. We must learn to protect each other against common enemies, or none of us will have our separate and cherished different perspectives to enjoy and associate in regards to any longer.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#11. To: Ferret Mike, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *libertarians* (#0)
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#12. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
Well, how DARE your friend hang one of the local noble women in effigy! Don't you know that NOBODY is allowed to criticize anyone who is melanin-enhanced? Your friend is lucky he wasn't scooped up by the local Student Union and taken to a re-education center! The Pubbies let him off easy.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#13. To: Ferret Mike, Tauzero, christine, bush_is_a_moonie, Cynicom, lodwick, Turtle (#10)
We're going to differ on this one, as I think to a large extent this is a partisan observation. We are an individualist and self-reliant people who find it difficult to let down our interpersonal barriers even to the extent of spending time with people with whom we have no immediate need to interact, let alone forming idealogical alliances and activity patterns. This has tended to work against us, and it presents an indifferent and "intolerant" face to the world. But what of that world? It has been changed around us by force of government policy, immigration policy, and foreign policy. It has been changed around us by the information revolution and the onslaught of increasing levels of socialist reform. It would be better not to stand out in the middle between our two peoples and say that because we are rednecks, we are more vulnerable to the challenge of divide and conquer. That's a gross misrepresentation of our way of life. We do not want to be involved with community organizers. We do not want to be shackled to collectivized patterns. That is exactly what has backed up our ire. To truly respect our diversity, one must accept that we want to be left alone to thrive. That we can do under a variety of circumstances. But to demand that we collectivize as a sign of our good will is to ask us to become something we'd rather not be. Now I realize I am making some generalizations here. Rednecks took government cheese, welfare, and Works Progress jobs. Of course. And rednecks can be racist and intolerant. But some of us were the people who joined Lincoln to fight slavery. Some of us fought to save Jews in Europe and liberate the Chinese from the Japanese in Asia. We have had freedom in this country because of redneck sensibilities. We need to find common ground beyond the old cliche that rednecks are divisive by nature. And we can. I know you can — and have, too. I just wanted to point that out. We're on the receiving end of the restructuring by government fiat. That's why we bristle so much. But we don't all bite, and we know that the same globalist forces are raping the wilderness, enslaving third world workers, polluting the public water sources, misinforming the youth in our educational systems, and manipulating the monetary system for someone else's benefit besides the common people. There is much to unite us, but the issue of abolishing our ethnic concerns is not one of them. And for "diversity's sake" it shouldn't even be on the table. We are now part of the diversity quilt, as an inevitable minority group. Welcome us as such.
My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along.
#14. To: mirage (#12)
Picture Eugene - THE VORTEX Peace loving hippies gather at Maurie Jacobs park to drum, dance, and barter in the summer of 1995. Eugene police arrive to ruin the vibe and drive these loveable folks into a frenzied mass. Him and Larry, the other involved were so obviously not racially prejudiced when legislators made this play which got the media checking everything out about the protest action. It created quite a stir when it happened. The Whiteaker neighborhood is the ground zero of the Eugene anarchist and activist community. The police are nervous about anything happening in Whiteaker because they well know how fast we build the kicked hornet's nest effect if need be. One interesting development in recent months is the halt of police harassment and overt monitoring of Critical mass rides every month. They should of left Critical Mass alone a long time ago, as so this is cynically considered by most people to be a tactical move that will eventually be reversed in a shock fashion using contrived excuses making that a necessary move. The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Mike... The bald headed cop is the poster boy for JBT.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
Most folks are prepared to start taking out Government officials these days. Critical Mass deserves whatever crap gets thrown at them IMO. Had to deal with them in San Francisco and they lost all support for their cause with their antics back then. Then they got me on the "have them arrested" bandwagon because I had to pepper-spray one of them off of me one day. I can put on a pretty good "mess with me and die" stance. Not so far from the truth actually.... But you and I both know that there is no such thing as a "Real Republican" in the State of Oregon. Gordon Smith is a RINO as is Kevin Mannix. They're just Democrats who don't want to call themselves that.
The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#17. To: Cynicom (#15) (Edited)
PictureEugene/Whiteaker Block Party This short on the block party is two houses away from where Henry was harrassed. As you can see by the usual suspects in my community, we all all poster boys and girls. This is at the Whiteaker Cocktail Society.
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
Sort of like Burning Man on a budget.
#19. To: mirage (#16)
Critical Mass in Eugene is tighter, calmer and less confrontational then the rides you speak of. Though one Critical Mass ride I had the cops boiling mad at me when I was quoted in the Register Guard that they had also blocked an ambulance taking a boy who had accidentally shot himself making them take the long way. That it was not necessarily the riders fault, as had the cops not been there, people would of gotten out of the way. They didn't like to be invited to share the blame. The boy was not as badly injured as had been feared and is alive and well. This was about eight years ago. It was the ride that changed the nature of Critical Mass rides here to be done responsibly and with regard for others who use the road. Not to mention everyone is used to seeing them the last Friday of every month.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)
I hope the dolts in San Francisco learn from this. I really do.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
I saw your video. They released your buddy. So at least they came around on what was apparently a mistake. The video doesn't show him originally being arrested and what led to it. The people in the video said there was a robbery. So the police were responding to a legitimate crime, and apparently got the wrong guy. They released him when they apparently found that out. They probably shouldn't have cuffed him and just questioned him first. My bet is that he got loud and mouthy and then they put the cuffs on him. He seems like that type that wants to take on authority. I'm not saying that it is wrong or your friend was wrong to "get loud". (which is my hunch of what happened.) I like people who fight authority. Thanks for the video.
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
People such yourself seem to be part of the problem. Any group that trains police to act like the Gestapo would be considered an enemy in my book, yet you support them.
We must learn to protect each other against common enemies..
#23. To: bluegrass, Ferret Mike (#22)
I disagree. FM's a unique individual. I think he misunderstands us to some extent, but he really tries to bridge the gaps, which is better than we do.
#24. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#23)
I wish that I could concur. I have no desire at this stage of the game to attempt to understand someone that supports groups, like the ADL, that have an active hand in setting up the police state even after all of the proof of that group's complicity has been handed to them. While we've been busy trying to understand, they've been undermining. I don't participate in that vicious cycle anymore.
#25. To: bluegrass (#24)
I'll let FM answer that, but I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America. I know FM is a collectivist. Right now on Wall Street, we're looking at what happens when collectivism poses as conservatism, and that's 10 times more dangerous. With FM what you see is what you get. A forum like this is for trading ideas and facts. He's very strong in both regards.
#26. To: buckeye (#25)
As am I. I have Jewish friends that hate the ADL more than I do. I have no more patience for stupid Jews or stupid goyim that think the ADL and other branches of the NWO do 'good works'. All they're good for is rhetorical target practice on net forums.
I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America.
#27. To: bluegrass (#26)
You're saying FM is an ADL member, or that he advocates the ADL? Did I miss something?
#28. To: buckeye (#27) (Edited)
He supports the ADL. Edited to add: He also once told me that he "monitors" web sites for hate speech. Draw your own conclusions.
#29. To: bluegrass (#28)
Quote?
#30. To: buckeye (#29)
Hold, please. I'll do some digging.
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
Sick, sick, shiite, Mike, I don't even know what to say, or do, on this one. Stay safe, stay armed.
The FBI consider it one of their 'happy hunting grounds' and sends new agents in to do their final field training before becoming agents.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic traitors.
#32. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#29)
Here's one. FM posted an article from the ADL as though it as gospel and then stated on the thread: "I monitor hate sites and one would have to be blind not to see how they focus into the possibilities with laser precision." FM, 2006-06-22 More in a minute.
#33. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#29)
"As far as the ADL goes, I support Good work they have done just as I support Israel's right to exist." FM, 2006-06-05
#34. To: bluegrass, Ferret Mike, robnoel (#32)
On both posts: FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial. I cut him some slack because of this. I think no less of him because of it, and in fact, he's a credit to his people for being such a strong defender of liberty and the environment. Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist. And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right. Once, maybe. I'm assuming this is what FM means :) I had a sense that he was holding similar opinions, and I still give him the benefit of the doubt while reserving the right to disagree with him anywhere, anytime, on any issue. We're here to exchange views, and I'm glad he's here. I try to convince him to see things my way sometimes. And likewise. That's a forum.
#35. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike, Tauzero, Cynicom, christine, Lady X, angle (#29)
----- "As for their [ADL] good work, that is obvious as they have researched and documented people places and organizations who promote religious, racial and other bigotry quite well and I have found them to be a useful source of material when I have needed such data. " FM, 2006-06-05 ----- More?
#36. To: bluegrass (#35)
See my remarks above to FM on ethnicity. I'm hoping he responds.
#37. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike, robnoel (#34)
Horse-hockey. My grandmother's Jewish and I'm not 'sensitive' to those that are less than fond of Jews. Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist. No state has a right to exist. Only individuals are born with that right. States exist through the exercise of power, not by right. And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right. I'm still waiting for someone to name ONE thing the ADL has done that's good or right. The examples that Mike used above of researching and documenting 'bigotry' is horribly flawed due to all of the outright fabrications and cover-ups contained in their research. It's like saying the Cheka did 'good works'. We're here to exchange views Agreed. My view is that anyone that supports the ADL while claiming opposition to the police state is full of shit.
FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial
#38. To: bluegrass (#37)
You make some great points. Thanks for digging up those quotes. I'll be looking forward to hearing the responses. (I agree with your comment about states, and I may have misquoted Rob, who probably agrees more with what you said, as well.)
#39. To: bluegrass (#37)
You are bringing shit up from way back when I joined 4UM. Some of my views have changed, some have not. I didn't know much about this virtual community then, now I do. As I inferred, play your try to bait the ferret games all you want to do here. This is what you do, entertain yourself by trying to make others squirm. I am not impressed, and I don't give a shit about your game here. It is your problem, not mine. Later alligator.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#40. To: Ferret Mike, buckeye (#39)
Fair enough. So what's your view of the ADL now?
Some of my views have changed, some have not.
#41. To: bluegrass (#33) (Edited)
I'm always amazed by people that make statements such as this. They may claim they are against hate and discrimination, in principle. Yet, they support the "right to exist" of a state that has an official national policy that condones hate and discrimination against all gentiles. Israel has no public laws prohibiting hate speech, hate crime, or hate discrimination perpetrated by jews against gentiles. By design, gentiles are an enforced minority inside Israel, and many gentiles living inside Israel cannot even vote. The ADL is doubtlessly aware of this fact, and know that jews are double-dealing hypocrites. The real mystery is why non-jews who claim to oppose hate and discrimination still support Israeli hypocrisy. The word "Israel" literally means "jewish people", so it is reasonable to assume that the state of Israel is the embodiment of mainstream jewish law. Some US politicians go so far as to claim that Israel is an ideal. I can understand why professional politicians might say such things, as they naturally tend toward tyranny.
As far as the ADL goes, I support Good work they have done just as I support Israel's right to exist
#42. To: All (#34) (Edited)
FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial. The other shoe drops. The highly organized and tax-exempt Anti-Defamation League of Bad Breath (ADL) is the enemy of White resistance. Those who align themselves with the ADL, the SPLC, Simon Wiesenthal Center and other "hate group" watchdogs are like our resident biracial polecat, Mike. They will ally with all the various protected minorities in coalition with sick liberals, law enforcement, court officers and the news and entertainment industry to fight "right-wing extremist hate groups/domestic terrorists" (read: Eurocentric separatist activists). Polecat Mike won't be happy until everyone else is a mongrel like him. It ain't about the right-wing and the left-wing uniting to fight White "haters." It's about dispossessing the White majority; about putting the bottom rail on the top and the top rail on the bottom, just like in the egalitarian Bible story and with the egalitarian snivil rights movement.
On 2008-09-27 22:17:20, buckeye wrote:
It's Great to be White!
#43. To: buckeye (#13)
This has tended to work against us, and it presents an indifferent and "intolerant" face to the world. The definition of tolerance is to disapprove but not punish. Today, whites lock up blacks and hispanics for crimes they commit, but do not generally disapprove of blacks and hispanics per se. This is indeed "intolerance", as in the complete opposite of tolerance. But when most white people say the word intolerance, what they have in mind is disapproval and punishment. Thus, whites maintain that they are not intolerant, while darkie maintains that they are. Whites are talking about the disapproval of darkie; darkie is talking about the punishment of crimes. Whites are generally retarded about that. As it happens, I do disapprove of blacks and hispanics in the aggregate. As long as they live among us I will be intolerant, by practically anybody's definition, including my own. And I don't think that's a bad thing. There is much to unite us, but the issue of abolishing our ethnic concerns is not one of them. You're right -- white genocide is not negotiable for the Kossacks, either. Everything else is. But I'm not worried about them. Like homos, they don't usually reproduce, and there will always be a few around. Most will soon die of old age, or remove themselves from the white gene pool by miscegenation, leaving fewer race traitors for my children to contend with. We are now part of the diversity quilt, as an inevitable minority group. This is retarded. It's a good appeal from darkie to whitey, but doesn't work in the reverse. They ain't that dumb. Whites have always been a global minority. That's not what's different. What's different is white surrender of their lands and institutions. That, too, is non-negotiable for the Kossacks. Whites have always been a minority. So have Jews. Neither will ever be just another minority.
“It seems fair to regard negroes as on the average inferior to white men.” -- Bertrand Russell “Race! It is a feeling, not a reality: ninety-five percent, at least, is a feeling." -- Benito Mussolini
#44. To: Tauzero, Ferret Mike (#43)
I'm still waiting for FM's reply.
It's a good appeal from darkie to whitey, but doesn't work in the reverse.
#45. To: Googolplex, Ferret Mike, buckeye (#41)
People that claim support for Israel and its various organs (ADL, AJC, etc) and then wear the cloak of tolerance, anti-hate and all of the other meaningless PC terms are either willing or unwilling idiots for the Zionist hydra. At this stage in the game when the various heads of the hydra (Bernanke, Mukasey, Chertoff, et. al.) are financing and building the police state in America, such willing and unwilling idiots are of no more use except for rhetorical target practice. Those idiots either need to change their perceptions of reality or get lost in the coming backlash.
They may claim they are against hate and discrimination, in principle. Yet, they support the "right to exist" of a state that has an official national policy that condones hate and discrimination against all gentiles.
#46. To: bluegrass (#45)
You came into hijack this thread with your own agenda. You bother me with your one note Charley acting very arrogant and demanding. I don't need that crap the last weeks before an important election, or is that a factor in your timing here? We are done, period, no more exchanges on the topic. I will be happy to post back to you on any issue but your pet one. There is more to life then your ADL hamster exercise wheel you like to run yourself ragged on. Post in regard to the thread header. Anything else I won't even bother wasting time on.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#47. To: Ferret Mike, Googolplex, buckeye, Tauzero, Cynicom (#46)
What's so important about it? It's two tools dancing to the tune of their paymasters. Many of those paymasters are the same entity. buckeye: He won't answer. He's still down with the ADL and its police state fetish.
an important election
#48. To: bluegrass, Ferrert Mike (#47)
FM and I find common ground regardless of those things. He knows I don't agree with him on a lot, but it's enough to communicate.
#49. To: buckeye, Ferrert Mike (#48)
Communication is fine and dandy, but I have a very difficult time finding common ground with people that wittingly or unwittingly advocate the incipient police state.
#50. To: bluegrass (#49)
That quote shows what a poor communicator you are. I have found you generally impossible to talk to. You are still hijacking the thread, and how you expect me to be receptive you your arcane interrogatories when you piss and shit on anything you don't like and refuse to budge from your one issue side show is beyond me. The passive aggressive insults are noted. Their inaccuracy is noted. That's all I see I can do for you here, is note that.
"Communication is fine and dandy, but I have a very difficult time finding common ground with people that wittingly or unwittingly advocate the incipient police state."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Don't taze me bro.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#52. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
The ADL trains more police in America than any other private group. Unless one is an apologist for the ADL or for the police state, that's far from a side show. The passive aggressive insults are noted. There's nothing passive aggressive about it. You're either an idiot or a supporter of the ADL...but I repeat myself.
side show
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
our mutual defense against whom, Mike? we can't even
agree on who and what is [our] common enemy. i believe your heart's in the
right place, but i also believe your ideal of unification (i view it as
collectivism) causes you to be closedminded at times.
but this is one of many dynamics about points of view we need
to understand if people of different perspectives are ever going to ever be
able to unite when it is important to do so to ensure mutual defense.
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#54. To: christine (#53)
Au contraire ma amie. It is not I that is closeminded, but think what you want. I never ask permission for my viewpoints, and I don't give a shit if they offend or others don't like then. They are mine, I know why I have them, and they are well thought out. I also have a right to them, just as you have a right to yours'.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#55. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
Yet you insist upon others refraining from speaking their minds, to wit: Why don't you conduct yourself in an ethical manner in here and be objective when doing posting functions that need objectivity? There are many good reasons to do this, one is to protect reposting for discussion under the auspices of fair use from legal attacks from news outlets, and another is to create a product that a thread is that people of different opinions can post to without feeling it is useless to because even management seems to sanction the oppressively -- I don't give a crap of how opinionated I am -- behavior you exhibit here. Personally I like Barney Frank and would have commented on this topic had you made the tread user friendly. You obviously would prefer to not see the other side argued on your thread here, or you would of posted this in a mature, reasoned fashion. That sounds dangerously close to calling for suppression of speech to me, Mike.
It is not I that is closeminded, but think what you want. I never ask permission for my viewpoints, and I don't give a shit if they offend or others don't like then
#14. To: Jethro Tull (#12)
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#56. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
Bottom line right there.
I also have a right to them, just as you have a right to yours'.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#57. To: Ferret Mike (#54)
absolutely..and i never said or intimated otherwise. in thinking about it further, i think i erred using the word closedminded. maybe biased is better, but then aren't we all. we all see things through our own prisms and life's experiences. in any event, it wasn't meant to be a criticism, just an observation...and you certainly have the right to disagree or dispute it. what do you think of my assertion that we can't even agree on who is our common enemy so how is it possible that we can unite and fight whoever that is together?
They are mine, I know why I have them, and they are well thought out. I also have a right to them, just as you have a right to yours'.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#58. To: christine, Ferret Mike, all (#57)
As long as Mike or anyone supports any person or part of this government we cannot have one iota of common agreement. There is NO room for compromise with people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions...
#59. To: Dakmar (#55)
You need to put a link to the thread in with the quote if you want a comment on it.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
This is a forum where ideas and opinions are exchanged. It is allegedly a free speech forum, yet I am always getting stupid FReeper tricks like your stonewalling here Cyni. And you don't have to buy their current dogma to know and use the Free Republic forum doctrine and tactics. Thanks for sharing, John McCyni.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#61. To: Ferret Mike, christine, all (#60)
Tricks Mike???? am too olde for that, and so are you too olde to go personal rather than discuss the merits of what is at stake. This is what I said... "As long as Mike or anyone supports any person or part of this government we cannot have one iota of common agreement. There is NO room for compromise with people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions." This government is a repressive one Mike, has been for many years and is getting worse. This has occurred, under stewardship of both "parties" and several presidents etc etc. I cannot support any part or person of this ongoing system, and to my mind anyone that does is adding to our decline as a people and a country. No tricks Mike, personal view. I do not support any portion of this system, you do, that is your choice, however in doing so, you become a part of the problem as you are merely doing what you are programmed to do. Free speech forum question???? I note you openly support a candidate, try that on the other forums. Very basic premise Mike, you support any candidate, you thereby are supporting the government that will destroy us. To my knowledge, I have not seen nor heard anyone here even hint that Mike should be muted by any means. I have known you for too long for any such childishness. One either supports the government or they do not. I do not.
This is a forum where ideas and opinions are exchanged. It is allegedly a free speech forum, yet I am always getting stupid FReeper tricks like your stonewalling here Cyni.
#62. To: angle (#61)
ping to Cyni's post above.
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#63. To: Cynicom (#58)
There is NO room for compromise with people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions... No room for compromise? Your asskissing of Sarah Palin tells a different story as to your agenda. I think it's all corrupted and they're mostly all corrupted with the exception of Ron Paul and maybe a few others I don't know about. Even though I don't think it can be fixed, my thinking is in the minority. This government or some form of it will exist far after you and I and Mike are gone, don't you think? Humans beings have lots in common and thoughts and ideas can be discussed and exchanged whether or not our view of government is the same. What solutions or plan are you offering?
As long as Mike or anyone supports any person or part of this government we cannot have one iota of common agreement.
#64. To: angle, Cynicom (#63)
Say it ain't so, Joe.
Your asskissing of Sarah Palin
#65. To: christine, Ferret Mike (#57)
I'd like to hear the answer to that myself. The reason that I bitch about Jewish power is because it's the weakest link in the global power structure (which is why that structure protects Jewish power so much). In any battle, you go for the weakest point. Those unwilling to do so due to their conditioning and emotional attachment to their own perspective will always end up in the casualty pile at the end of the fight.
what do you think of my assertion that we can't even agree on who is our common enemy so how is it possible that we can unite and fight whoever that is together?
#66. To: Cynicom (#58) (Edited)
There is NO room for compromise with people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions... I disagree with Ferret Mike on a lot of issues, particularly his support for Obama. And it isn't even because I think that Obama is a "far leftist," it's because I think that Obama is just another political hack in the mold of Clinton or Kerry. But how is Mike's support of Obama any worse than the support for McCain/Palin by many on this site? Why is it OK to compromise and make common cause with people who support neoconservatives but not with leftists?
As long as Mike or anyone supports any person or part of this government we cannot have one iota of common agreement.
#67. To: bluegrass (#65)
So would I. The constant dodging of the question suggests that permanent agitation against any unity is the agenda. Just sayin'.
I'd like to hear the answer to that myself.
#68. To: christine, cynicom, Ferrett Mike (#62)
I need to give this more thought. Dakmar's post above intrigued me. Mostly it's because I am repulsed by Barney Frank's latest round of government oppression in the bailout scheme. That Mike supports him is stunning and shocking to me. Makes me have to rethink things a bit. I'll get back to you on this thread topic.
ping to Cyni's post above.
#69. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#66)
It's not. There are those on this site who support McPalin either openly or closeted, yet their views aren't targeted "as people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions..."
But how is Mike's support of Obama any worse than the support for McCain/Palin by many on this site?
#70. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#66)
Obama and McCain both voted Yes on the Debt Utilization and Monetization Bill (DUMB) that just passed the Senate. There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two whores.
But how is Mike's support of Obama any worse than the support for McCain/Palin by many on this site?
#71. To: bluegrass (#70)
When it comes down to what matters, D and R are always on the same page. They vote together to bail out their Wall Street masters, and they vote together on wars and building the New World Order. Their "disagreement" on stupid social issues of the week is just a sideshow.
Obama and McCain both voted Yes on the Debt Utilization and Monetization Bill (DUMB) that just passed the Senate
#72. To: bluegrass (#65)
Disagree. However, it may be, as the Practically Jewish By Osmosis™ Birdman says, the sine qua non of intellectual freedom in the West.
it's the weakest link
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#73. To: angle (#69)
i don't know how you can say that. the majority of posters here are against both branches of the establishment party.
There are those on this site who support McPalin either openly or closeted, yet their views aren't targeted "as people that sanction the government, its owners nor its minions..."
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#74. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#71)
Take a guess who the largest single contributors to both the McCain and Obama campaigns are? If you guessed Goldman Sachs, you'd be correct.
they vote together on wars and building the New World Order.
#75. To: Tauzero (#72)
Disagree. In your not-so-humble opinion, what is the weakest link?
it's the weakest link
#76. To: christine (#73)
The majority? Many say they are, but I really don't hear the same level of outrage against McPalin as I did and do about Obama. In fact, I've been accused by cyni, nikki and James Deffenbach of being a partisan Obama supporter becasue I've been posting diatribe toward Palin.
the majority of posters here are against both branches of the establishment party
#77. To: angle (#76)
I've seen some of that, and it's ridiculous. But to be fair, I've had some Obamaites here call me a "McCain supporter" when I had anything bad to say about their empty suit Messiah. That's what happens when you believe in the two party system.
In fact, I've been accused by cyni, nikki and James Deffenbach of being a partisan Obama supporter becasue I've been posting diatribe toward Palin.
#78. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#66)
Personally, I support no one in this charade. I will not vote. With that in mind, the government being the enemy, one has to either support all of them or disparage all of them. I disparage all of them, with one exception, politics aside I do like Palin as a gurl. To disparage one is support for the others, regardless of what one thinks. Politically, I want nothing to do with the lot of them, I do like Palin as a gurl. Myself, I think Bush/Cheney should be hung, and regardless of who "wins" our next go around, hang them too.
But how is Mike's support of Obama any worse than the support for McCain/Palin by many on this site? Why is it OK to compromise and make common cause with people who support neoconservatives but not with leftists?
#79. To: Cynicom (#78) (Edited)
Anti-Obama remarks should discourage people from supporting Obama, not encourage support for McCain, whether it means voting third party or not voting at all. And vice-versa for anti-McCain comments.
To disparage one is support for the others, regardless of what one thinks
#80. To: Cynicom (#78)
I quit voting long ago. I've found the ultimate write-in protest vote. See link in my sig.
I will not vote.
#81. To: bluegrass (#75)
Seriousness.
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#82. To: angle (#76)
angle is an Obama supporter, that is acceptable, doing as programmed. Most of us are supportive of no one within the system, that is what is so difficult for partisan sheep to understand.
The majority? Many say they are, but I really don't hear the same level of outrage against McPalin as I did and do about Obama.
#83. To: Tauzero (#81)
No argument here.
#84. To: bluegrass (#80)
He couldn't be any worse than McBama.
Ahmadinejad in 2008!
#85. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#79)
Rupert... I am on record here as supporting no one, disparaging all. " They are all a locked in fellowship within the ruling elite system.'
#86. To: Cynicom (#78)
Take your own advice, then.
To disparage one is support for the others, regardless of what one thinks.
#87. To: christine (#82)
See what I mean. Yet he'll defend Palin to the nth.
angle is an Obama supporter, that is acceptable, doing as programmed.
#88. To: angle (#86)
Just cause Sarah is a gurl??????
#89. To: bluegrass (#65)
Anyone that believes himself a true progressive, will eventually admit that their true enemy is the so-called white supremacist. White supremacism is the perceived enemy of Diversity supremacists. www.mindexchange.com/diversity. htm In the US where a democracy is presumed, over 90% of all voters fall into at least one or more sub-categories of Diversity. You do the math. The political dominance of Diversity is total.
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