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Title: Ferret Mike's friend Videotaped While educating police dumb enough to stop him
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KHd6eAUjGM
Published: Sep 27, 2008
Author: Tim Lewis
Post Date: 2008-09-27 18:23:18 by Ferret Mike
Keywords: None
Views: 1043
Comments: 89
-- 5 EPD vehicles pull over a car in the Whiteaker neighborhood and the cops handcuff the wrong person while they get a ear full.
Poster Comment: Henry and I go back a long way. He is a hard working woods worker who owns his own home and has spent many years planting trees, doing pre-commercial thinning of tree stands, fire bossing twenty man single resource wild land fire crews, and has been a political activist for many years. He won a large settlement when railroad dicks slammed him to the ground on tracks near his home accusing him of trespassing the right of way while retrieving his dog so he could go to work. He also had a memorable moment in Salem with a fellow activist who had hung a dummy of the Children's Service Department director in effigy on the State Capital grounds protesting heavy handed interference in people's lives when they pulled kids, usually because they objected to the parent's political and social outlook on life. The legislature was in session and the Republicans then and they heard about the dummy, so they came out directly from the House chamber to scream at him and "how dare him" because the then director was an African American woman. That made the papers at that time, and Henry and I go a long long way back having worked and run together for decades. His parents were college professors before retiring, and Henry is very politically informed. Tim Lewis has been the Cop Watch organizer for a long time and has restarted the organization. One I have been arrested doing work observing and videotaping for. The police were very much irritated and intimidated by the camera and this helped convince them to take the cuffs off as you see them do. Shine On, the woman with the pulled back dreads is a very close friend of mine as well. This is also my neighborhood. We will be producing and posting more Cop Watch videos as we get the organization back up to speed.
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#1. To: All (#0)
Bad editting, The Republicans were then in control of the State House and Senate was what that was supposed to say.
God - you guys are more screwed up than is Austin. Good luck with it out there.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic traitors.
Good work, FM.
The revolution will not be televised.
"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered." - Thomas Jefferson
Yes, it can be bad here. You have to understand that Eugene is an Oasis of a metro area where the counterculture and many political activists enclaved when the free wheeling 1960s and early 1970s was winding down. The FBI consider it one of their 'happy hunting grounds' and sends new agents in to do their final field training before becoming agents. The police is very well armed and equipped. They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere. I wonder what's up with this.
Thanks, I will pass the compliment on to Henry, Tim and company.
I wonder what's up with this. I think you'll find this trend is nationwide. IMHO, the authorities are anticipating a lot of very serious civil unrest in the very short term, most likely due to a massive economic implosion. Rather than build up infrastructure to support and care for people, they're investing in more tools to repress and control people. All things considered, I think we're in for some ugly times coming soon.
The legislature was in session and the Republicans then
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#2. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#3. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
#4. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
#5. To: lodwick (#2)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#6. To: buckeye (#3)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#7. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
The police is very well armed and equipped. They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere.
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#8. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
It's another reminder how much the left and the right have in common. Ron Paul's four tenets should unite us as much as possible:
This is enough work for a lifetime — for both sides.
#9. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
I wonder what's up with this. Here's half the problem. Funny how the ADL will NEVER criticize cops in America: ADL Training US Police Departments across the country.. For What Purpose? Are Abe Foxman and the Zionist ADL training US Police to be their private armies? When your door gets kicked down at 3 am in the morning, you'd better have on your yarmulke, have a menorah visible and a Star of David Flag draped over one wall... or else! Here's a few samples on what the Zionists are teaching American cops to do: ADL Participates in First Annual Urban Shield Training Exercise in California Posted: November 14, 2007 An Anti-Defamation League expert participated in the first annual Urban Shield training exercise in Oakland, California. Urban Shield is a large-scale training exercise and competition sponsored by the Alameda County Sheriff's Office. It involves over 20 SWAT (Special Weapons and Tactics) teams from throughout the country, and is designed to test each team's tactical ability to cope with a variety of real-life emergency scenarios. The exercise took place continuously over a 24-hour period, beginning and ending at 5:00 am. It included different scenarios conducted at 22 training venues (or checkpoints) throughout Alameda County. Two-Day Law Enforcement Training Held in Utah Posted: January 14, 2008 Federal, state, and local law enforcement from across Utah gathered for a presentation from an Anti-Defamation League expert on right-wing extremism in West Valley City, Utah. The training took place over two days and was held at the West Lake City Police Department Headquarters, just outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. Approximately 150 officers assembled for the ADL expert's informative presentation on the ideologies, symbols, and criminal activities associated with right-wing extremists in the area. The expert also discussed the proliferation of white supremacists in the anti-immigration movement, emphasizing recent trends and tactics used by extremists to exploit anti-immigration sentiment in the region and across the United States. U.S. Military Investigators Trained Posted: December 11, 2007 An Anti-Defamation League expert conducted a law enforcement training at the Fort Leonard Wood United States Army Basic Combat Training Post in the Missouri Ozarks in December. Nearly 70 attendees, representing several military units, participated including the Anti-Terrorism Branch, Non-Commissioned Officer Academy, Equal Employment Office, Military Police Investigation, Basic Military Police Training, 14th Military Police Brigade, Marine Detachment, and the 1st Engineering Brigade. Training the US Army's Military Police? To do what, torture Iraqi's, using the brutal tactics of the Israeli Shin Bet? Other training sessions and the infected departments: ADL Presents for New Mexico Law Enforcement 05/02/08 Briefing on domestic extremism for the Albuquerque FBI. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Wisconsin 05/02/08 Training at a Terrorism Conference sponsored by the Wisconsin Department of Justice. ADL Provides Series of Trainings to NYPD 05/02/08 First two sessions held in four-part series on domestic extremism for the NYPD in Brooklyn. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Idaho 05/01/08 Law enforcement from across the Pacific Northwest received training on extremism. ADL Provides Training to Wyoming DOC 05/01/08 Two day training sponsored by the Wyoming DOC. ADL Trains Law Enforcement in Arizona 05/01/08 Gang squad recruits in Tucson received a presentation on domestic extremism. ADL Trains Las Vegas Law Enforcement 05/01/08 Presentation at the third Annual Gang Conference sponsored by the LVMPD. ADL Presents to the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement Command Staff 04/02/08 Presentation for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) command staff at the 2008 ICE Leadership Conference ADL Trains Missouri Law Enforcement 04/02/08 Training sponsored by the Missouri Police Chief's Charitable Foundation and the Missouri School Resource Officers Association. ADL Trains Police Departments on Cape Cod 03/25/08 The Provincetown and Truro, Massachusetts, Police Departments participated in a hate crime training session. ADL Presents Counterterrorism Course in San Diego 02/14/08 Training Held for San Diego District Attorney's Office 01/24/08 Training on the California white supremacist subculture held in San Diego. Training Held for U.S. Attorney's Office in Washington, DC 01/17/08 Members of the DC Bias Crimes Task Force gathered for a presentation on right-wing extremism and hate activity. Two-Day Law Enforcement Training Held in Utah 01/14/08 Federal, state, and local law enforcement from across Utah gathered for a presentation on right-wing extremism in West Valley City, Utah. U.S. Military Investigators Trained 12/11/07 Military units participated in a training at the U.S. Army Basic Combat Training Post in the Missouri Ozarks. Senior Law Enforcement Personnel Attend Anti-Terrorism Course in DC 12/10/07 The twelfth session of ADL's course on extremist and terrorist threats was held on December 2-4, 2007. Training Held at FBI National Academy 12/04/07 Information on extremist use of the Internet was presented at the FBI National Academy. Law Enforcement Training in Illinois 12/04/07 Federal, state, and local law enforcement officials met in Springfield, Illinois, for a presentation on extremism. California Law Enforcement Attend Training 12/04/07 Law enforcement officers in Ventura, California, attended a training on domestic extremism in November 2007. Senior Law Enforcement Travel to Israel for Counterterrorism Training 11/15/07 Senior law enforcement executives traveled to Israel to learn counterterrorism tactics and strategies. ADL Participates in First Annual Urban Shield Training Exercise in California 11/14/07 ADL participated in the fist annual Urban Shield training exercise held in Oakland, California. Training Held for Traffic Court Judges in Seattle 11/01/07 A presentation on anti-government extremism was held for the American Bar Association's Judicial Division in Seattle. Law Enforcement Trainings Held in Massachusetts 10/18/07 Two extremism trainings were held for Massachusetts law enforcement. California Law Enforcement Attend Training 10/18/07 Information was presented on terrorists' and extremists' use of the Internet to law enforcement in the California. Training Held for Members of the Association for Uniform Crime Reporting Programs in Michigan 10/18/07 Members of the Association for Uniform Crime Reporting Programs received information on extremism in Michigan. Training Held for Dallas Police Department 10/16/07 Law enforcement officers from the Dallas Police Department received information on extremists' use of the Internet. Pennsylvania Law Enforcement Attend Training 10/16/07 Pennsylvania law enforcement met for a training on extremism and hate crime legislation in Conshohocken, Pennsylvania. Domestic Terrorism Training Held in Western New York 10/16/07 Information on domestic terrorism was presented to law enforcement in Western New York. Extremism Training Held in Missouri 09/26/07 Officers from across Missouri gathered for an extremism training in Jefferson City, Missouri. Michigan Law Enforcement Attend Training 09/20/07 Law enforcement from across Michigan gathered in Livonia for a presentation on right-wing extremism. Training Provided to District Court Magistrates in Michigan 09/20/07 A training on anti-government extremism was held for the Michigan Association of District Court Magistrates. Training Provided to New Mexico Law Enforcement 09/05/07 Law enforcement officers from across New Mexico received a presentation on right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism. Domestic Terrorism Training Held for Pennsylvania State Troopers 08/30/07 State troopers from across Pennsylvania received information on right-wing extremism and domestic terrorism.
They also have ratcheted up their presence greatly this past week and seem to be everywhere.
#10. To: buckeye (#8)
I agree, and my whole point of joining the Free Republic's corps of blockhead posters was to listen to what conservative had to say and to see where the left and right had common cause way back in the late nineties. My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along. Many on the right have the opposite perspective, but this is one of many dynamics about points of view we need to understand if people of different perspectives are ever going to ever be able to unite when it is important to do so to ensure mutual defense. A united community always gives the ubers pause to act to control and oppress. This must change. When you make it hard for them to pick one group off at a time, everyone is protected. We must learn to protect each other against common enemies, or none of us will have our separate and cherished different perspectives to enjoy and associate in regards to any longer.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#11. To: Ferret Mike, *Jack-Booted Thugs*, *libertarians* (#0)
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#12. To: Ferret Mike (#1)
Well, how DARE your friend hang one of the local noble women in effigy! Don't you know that NOBODY is allowed to criticize anyone who is melanin-enhanced? Your friend is lucky he wasn't scooped up by the local Student Union and taken to a re-education center! The Pubbies let him off easy.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#13. To: Ferret Mike, Tauzero, christine, bush_is_a_moonie, Cynicom, lodwick, Turtle (#10)
We're going to differ on this one, as I think to a large extent this is a partisan observation. We are an individualist and self-reliant people who find it difficult to let down our interpersonal barriers even to the extent of spending time with people with whom we have no immediate need to interact, let alone forming idealogical alliances and activity patterns. This has tended to work against us, and it presents an indifferent and "intolerant" face to the world. But what of that world? It has been changed around us by force of government policy, immigration policy, and foreign policy. It has been changed around us by the information revolution and the onslaught of increasing levels of socialist reform. It would be better not to stand out in the middle between our two peoples and say that because we are rednecks, we are more vulnerable to the challenge of divide and conquer. That's a gross misrepresentation of our way of life. We do not want to be involved with community organizers. We do not want to be shackled to collectivized patterns. That is exactly what has backed up our ire. To truly respect our diversity, one must accept that we want to be left alone to thrive. That we can do under a variety of circumstances. But to demand that we collectivize as a sign of our good will is to ask us to become something we'd rather not be. Now I realize I am making some generalizations here. Rednecks took government cheese, welfare, and Works Progress jobs. Of course. And rednecks can be racist and intolerant. But some of us were the people who joined Lincoln to fight slavery. Some of us fought to save Jews in Europe and liberate the Chinese from the Japanese in Asia. We have had freedom in this country because of redneck sensibilities. We need to find common ground beyond the old cliche that rednecks are divisive by nature. And we can. I know you can — and have, too. I just wanted to point that out. We're on the receiving end of the restructuring by government fiat. That's why we bristle so much. But we don't all bite, and we know that the same globalist forces are raping the wilderness, enslaving third world workers, polluting the public water sources, misinforming the youth in our educational systems, and manipulating the monetary system for someone else's benefit besides the common people. There is much to unite us, but the issue of abolishing our ethnic concerns is not one of them. And for "diversity's sake" it shouldn't even be on the table. We are now part of the diversity quilt, as an inevitable minority group. Welcome us as such.
My perspective is the right is the least capable of communicating and working well with people who do not share their point of view and doctrine. And this is a shame, because dividing people is a core tactic of the powers that be, and they like to see people play people off each other until nobody is talking with one another or even remotely getting along.
#14. To: mirage (#12)
Picture Eugene - THE VORTEX Peace loving hippies gather at Maurie Jacobs park to drum, dance, and barter in the summer of 1995. Eugene police arrive to ruin the vibe and drive these loveable folks into a frenzied mass. Him and Larry, the other involved were so obviously not racially prejudiced when legislators made this play which got the media checking everything out about the protest action. It created quite a stir when it happened. The Whiteaker neighborhood is the ground zero of the Eugene anarchist and activist community. The police are nervous about anything happening in Whiteaker because they well know how fast we build the kicked hornet's nest effect if need be. One interesting development in recent months is the halt of police harassment and overt monitoring of Critical mass rides every month. They should of left Critical Mass alone a long time ago, as so this is cynically considered by most people to be a tactical move that will eventually be reversed in a shock fashion using contrived excuses making that a necessary move. The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#15. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
Mike... The bald headed cop is the poster boy for JBT.
#16. To: Ferret Mike (#14)
Most folks are prepared to start taking out Government officials these days. Critical Mass deserves whatever crap gets thrown at them IMO. Had to deal with them in San Francisco and they lost all support for their cause with their antics back then. Then they got me on the "have them arrested" bandwagon because I had to pepper-spray one of them off of me one day. I can put on a pretty good "mess with me and die" stance. Not so far from the truth actually.... But you and I both know that there is no such thing as a "Real Republican" in the State of Oregon. Gordon Smith is a RINO as is Kevin Mannix. They're just Democrats who don't want to call themselves that.
The relationship between police and community is tenuous at best. We are ready to scrap if they push too hard.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#17. To: Cynicom (#15) (Edited)
PictureEugene/Whiteaker Block Party This short on the block party is two houses away from where Henry was harrassed. As you can see by the usual suspects in my community, we all all poster boys and girls. This is at the Whiteaker Cocktail Society.
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"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#18. To: Ferret Mike (#17)
Sort of like Burning Man on a budget.
#19. To: mirage (#16)
Critical Mass in Eugene is tighter, calmer and less confrontational then the rides you speak of. Though one Critical Mass ride I had the cops boiling mad at me when I was quoted in the Register Guard that they had also blocked an ambulance taking a boy who had accidentally shot himself making them take the long way. That it was not necessarily the riders fault, as had the cops not been there, people would of gotten out of the way. They didn't like to be invited to share the blame. The boy was not as badly injured as had been feared and is alive and well. This was about eight years ago. It was the ride that changed the nature of Critical Mass rides here to be done responsibly and with regard for others who use the road. Not to mention everyone is used to seeing them the last Friday of every month.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#19)
I hope the dolts in San Francisco learn from this. I really do.
"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!
#21. To: Ferret Mike (#0)
I saw your video. They released your buddy. So at least they came around on what was apparently a mistake. The video doesn't show him originally being arrested and what led to it. The people in the video said there was a robbery. So the police were responding to a legitimate crime, and apparently got the wrong guy. They released him when they apparently found that out. They probably shouldn't have cuffed him and just questioned him first. My bet is that he got loud and mouthy and then they put the cuffs on him. He seems like that type that wants to take on authority. I'm not saying that it is wrong or your friend was wrong to "get loud". (which is my hunch of what happened.) I like people who fight authority. Thanks for the video.
#22. To: Ferret Mike (#10)
People such yourself seem to be part of the problem. Any group that trains police to act like the Gestapo would be considered an enemy in my book, yet you support them.
We must learn to protect each other against common enemies..
#23. To: bluegrass, Ferret Mike (#22)
I disagree. FM's a unique individual. I think he misunderstands us to some extent, but he really tries to bridge the gaps, which is better than we do.
#24. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#23)
I wish that I could concur. I have no desire at this stage of the game to attempt to understand someone that supports groups, like the ADL, that have an active hand in setting up the police state even after all of the proof of that group's complicity has been handed to them. While we've been busy trying to understand, they've been undermining. I don't participate in that vicious cycle anymore.
#25. To: bluegrass (#24)
I'll let FM answer that, but I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America. I know FM is a collectivist. Right now on Wall Street, we're looking at what happens when collectivism poses as conservatism, and that's 10 times more dangerous. With FM what you see is what you get. A forum like this is for trading ideas and facts. He's very strong in both regards.
#26. To: buckeye (#25)
As am I. I have Jewish friends that hate the ADL more than I do. I have no more patience for stupid Jews or stupid goyim that think the ADL and other branches of the NWO do 'good works'. All they're good for is rhetorical target practice on net forums.
I'm interested in finding common ground with others who feel their liberty has been curtailed in America.
#27. To: bluegrass (#26)
You're saying FM is an ADL member, or that he advocates the ADL? Did I miss something?
#28. To: buckeye (#27) (Edited)
He supports the ADL. Edited to add: He also once told me that he "monitors" web sites for hate speech. Draw your own conclusions.
#29. To: bluegrass (#28)
Quote?
#30. To: buckeye (#29)
Hold, please. I'll do some digging.
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#5)
Sick, sick, shiite, Mike, I don't even know what to say, or do, on this one. Stay safe, stay armed.
The FBI consider it one of their 'happy hunting grounds' and sends new agents in to do their final field training before becoming agents.
A nation of mullets, ruled by inbred, moronic traitors.
#32. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#29)
Here's one. FM posted an article from the ADL as though it as gospel and then stated on the thread: "I monitor hate sites and one would have to be blind not to see how they focus into the possibilities with laser precision." FM, 2006-06-22 More in a minute.
#33. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike (#29)
"As far as the ADL goes, I support Good work they have done just as I support Israel's right to exist." FM, 2006-06-05
#34. To: bluegrass, Ferret Mike, robnoel (#32)
On both posts: FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial. I cut him some slack because of this. I think no less of him because of it, and in fact, he's a credit to his people for being such a strong defender of liberty and the environment. Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist. And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right. Once, maybe. I'm assuming this is what FM means :) I had a sense that he was holding similar opinions, and I still give him the benefit of the doubt while reserving the right to disagree with him anywhere, anytime, on any issue. We're here to exchange views, and I'm glad he's here. I try to convince him to see things my way sometimes. And likewise. That's a forum.
#35. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike, Tauzero, Cynicom, christine, Lady X, angle (#29)
----- "As for their [ADL] good work, that is obvious as they have researched and documented people places and organizations who promote religious, racial and other bigotry quite well and I have found them to be a useful source of material when I have needed such data. " FM, 2006-06-05 ----- More?
#36. To: bluegrass (#35)
See my remarks above to FM on ethnicity. I'm hoping he responds.
#37. To: buckeye, Ferret Mike, robnoel (#34)
Horse-hockey. My grandmother's Jewish and I'm not 'sensitive' to those that are less than fond of Jews. Even our good Rob Noel indicates Israel has a right to exist. No state has a right to exist. Only individuals are born with that right. States exist through the exercise of power, not by right. And somewhere, someday, somehow, the ADL has probably done something right. I'm still waiting for someone to name ONE thing the ADL has done that's good or right. The examples that Mike used above of researching and documenting 'bigotry' is horribly flawed due to all of the outright fabrications and cover-ups contained in their research. It's like saying the Cheka did 'good works'. We're here to exchange views Agreed. My view is that anyone that supports the ADL while claiming opposition to the police state is full of shit.
FM is sensitive to racism because he is biracial
#38. To: bluegrass (#37)
You make some great points. Thanks for digging up those quotes. I'll be looking forward to hearing the responses. (I agree with your comment about states, and I may have misquoted Rob, who probably agrees more with what you said, as well.)
#39. To: bluegrass (#37)
You are bringing shit up from way back when I joined 4UM. Some of my views have changed, some have not. I didn't know much about this virtual community then, now I do. As I inferred, play your try to bait the ferret games all you want to do here. This is what you do, entertain yourself by trying to make others squirm. I am not impressed, and I don't give a shit about your game here. It is your problem, not mine. Later alligator.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#40. To: Ferret Mike, buckeye (#39)
Fair enough. So what's your view of the ADL now?
Some of my views have changed, some have not.
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