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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
Source: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://mms://rx-wes-sea150.rbn.com/ ... cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Views: 2123
Comments: 219

Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html

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#1. To: All (#0)

Dennis Kucinich: there is an eagle in the House chamber. It has two wings. Let it soar again on Friday, as it did on Monday. Yielding to Brad Sherman from California. Praising Marcy Kapture.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:51:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

Sherman saying people are now being PAID to make pro-bailout calls to congress.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: All (#2)

Three Nobel laureate economists signed a letter of economists saying "take time." Panic is what's driving the bill as it stands now. Talk of a Skeptics Caucus.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:54:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: All (#3)

1/2 of all money going to foreign investors who made bad decisions.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:54:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: All (#4)

Brad Sherman continues: the only thing needed is to guarantee commercial, REGULATED American banks. Nothing more.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#5)

Kaptur up.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   19:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: All (#0)

bradsherman.house.gov/081001comprehensive_article.pdf - apparent Brad Sherman 'blue paper' - possibly anyway. He passed something, possibly this, out to all members of congress to show what was wrong with the bill under consideration.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:00:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: All (#7)

Kaptur mentioning the foreign debt aspect of this problem. Forward debt proposed to help back debt, which she says is a bad idea. We students of G. Edward Griffin know what she means. Perhaps she has more to learn.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:05:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: All (#8)

Kaptur: whatever they're doing, fixing credit default swaps, etc... TELL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT WE'RE PLANNING.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:06:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: All (#5) (Edited)

Brad Sherman back up. Only way we can pass this bill is if members and the people are kept in panic. Martial law suggested as a means to panic the people into buying into the bill. Wrong approach! Hostage situation. 401k vs. 700b in unmarked bills! AMT tax must be passed. Senate refuses, second hostage situation.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: buckeye (#10)

I honestly have no idea why Palin is showing up with Gwen Ifill as moderator. Why not Al Sharpton? Tawana Brawley? Jesse Jackson? Anyone who considers this selection/debate serious is insane. The system needs to be destroyed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   20:11:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#10)

Sherman: why we can't tax the firms being bailed out: they're going out of business. Toxic assets are being marketed to the government, and might not be worth any tax anyhow. Shell companies are being bailed out!

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:12:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

It's all about empowerment.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeye (#0)

The Beavers Game is much more important than a faux debate between Bidet and Sarahcuda.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   20:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Original_Intent (#14)

I will make no argument there.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:16:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeye (#15)

Yup, the Beavers have it all on the line for the second week running. Last week they picked off #1 USC and this week they have to beat Utah to prove that it wasn't a fluke. If the same Beaver defense shows up as last week the Utes are in for a long night.

It should be interesting either way. Two very quick defenses and powerful running offenses. I think the Beavers have an edge in the Passing department.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   20:20:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)

the Beavers

Dam.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   20:22:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: All (#15)

Lindsey Graham and Holy Joe up front possibly with Alan Cranston of Missouri. Yuk yuk. John Danforth of Missouri there, too.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:27:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: nikki (#17)

Was that a Beaver Dam?

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   20:28:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#14)

I'm watching sPitt and So. Fla at the present, but I am a HUGE fan of the Beavers. I have no idea how we (PSU) slapped them around silly, only for them to bitch slap USC. Love CFB!

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   20:29:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

The system needs to be destroyed.

Both candidacies are lurching us toward such. One would be a bit better at it than the other.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:30:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: buckeye (#21)

I like Palin and I do hope she kicks Biden in the onions. That said, the top half of her ticket is so lame that's it's a joke. Vote for the colored guy and help tumble the nation into a race war. It's our only hope :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   20:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#22)

It's hard to say if either GOP or DNC outcomes could trigger such, and I doubt it in either case. I may not vote at all this year, but I'm leaning toward Nader or Baldwin. I'm interested in the four issues uniting the third party candidates: balanced budget, civil liberties/privacy, bringing the troops home, and reforming/ending the fed. A big third party turnout will send a bigger message than helping either one of these mainstream parties.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:37:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeye (#23)

REAL TIME ONLINE STREAMING DEBATE COVERAGE C-SPAN www.c-span.org/politics/c-span-debate-cam.aspx

real-debt-elimination

Itisa1mosttoolate  posted on  2008-10-02   20:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: buckeye (#23)

The only party I'd consider ever working/voting for is an American Nationalist party. None exist at the present, but perhaps in time when things grow more acute, one will spring up.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   20:45:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

I like the sound of an ANP.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:47:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Jethro Tull (#25)

The 'American Nationalist Party' home page has a blurb supporting Tom Tancredo. This is not the kind of nationalism you have in mind.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   20:51:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: buckeye (#27)

Konichiwa.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   20:58:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

Paul cant win.

Had one left.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   20:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Jethro Tull (#20)

Coming up on Kick-Off.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   20:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#28)

Eh?

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   21:01:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#29)

We're all winners, my friend. Just think about it. What are the odds to be born human in a time where you can live a more or less healthy, trouble-free life.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   21:01:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: buckeye (#23) (Edited)

I'm leaning toward Nader or Baldwin.

Write in Ahmadinejad. It's the only real protest vote that would matter.


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   21:04:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: All (#31)

Biden praises his efforts to put American effort into Yugoslavia/Bosnia.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   21:08:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, All (#32)

Surely you jest. Surely.

Now yall watch the "debate". geeezzzz

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   21:10:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Cynicom (#35)

Would you rather be a Japanese beetle? Or an earthworm?

Surely you'd rather be a U.S.American.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   21:11:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#36)

Japanese beetle.

I rather enjoyed my stay in Japan. I refuse to tell you why.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   21:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom (#37)

Hmmmm... I'm out of Cognac.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   21:30:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All (#38) (Edited)

Sarah did pretty good so far but she's beginning to unwind and throwing cliches volleys.

Can't believe it. She said "drill baby, drill".

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   21:34:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

sPitt is beating #10 So. Fl by 10 points at halftime. So much for the bookies.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   21:38:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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