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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
Source: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://mms://rx-wes-sea150.rbn.com/ ... cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Views: 3135
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Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html

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#85. To: everybody (#83)

i just got home. who's winning?

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: christine (#85)

I say Biden is winning as a populist, but America is losing, ultimately. Again.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: christine (#85)

Palin had a few of those 'moments' but nothing like what she gave Couric. Other than that... pretty boring.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   22:25:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Flintlock (#84)

Palin talking about fighting for freedom and saying McCain fought for 'you' evidently meaning freedom. I guess that's why McCain has been supportive of every tyrannical passing measure in Congress since 9/11. Pure sleaze. Wicked, maniacal sleaze.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:33:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#85)

i just got home. who's winning?

Almost every pundit that I've heard in the last two days, in their dilligent effort to help Biden 'know his bounds' in dealing with a WOMAN, said, don't talk down to her, and SMILE alot.

He looks like a grinning fool when she is speaking. I rather he forget all that phony stuff.

Palin, has been well prepped dontchaknow, darn right, heckuva thing, me'n'joe6pack and us mainstreeters. You you eastcoaster you.

Joe looks to be sweating a bit, Palin firin' back with, let's go back to this and your voting record and here's my record in AlaskAH!

She's sharp but nervous and wants the job, he's dull, sweaty, and on defense.

Some smart dancework on jobs for Americans here and there.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   22:37:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeye (#88)

For me freedom means low taxes and no gun laws

Why do you want to steal my money and rights?

BTW Your boy just got beat up by a girl.....

ROTFLMAO!

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   22:37:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: buckeye (#0)

One thing I believe can be said is that she held her own......while we may not like the answers, she was firm and positive sounding, as though it is her opinion or whatever.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-02   22:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: bluegrass, Cynicom, christine (#78)

Joe Biden's wife looks Jewish, and has a Jewish last name 'Jacobs.' Interesting.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:39:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: rowdee (#91)

Typical Republican coopting of the liberty meme.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: All (#93) (Edited)

Caller: I want some kind of change [not what these two are supporting].

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: All (#94)

Caller from California: I don't support either of these candidates, prefer Ron Paul's monetary agenda and approach to the Fed.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: All (#89)

My Aunt had a robe that looked exactly like Gwen's jacket. Same color, but chenille.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   22:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: nikki, Cynicom, all (#89)

Pat Buchanan on MSNBC--Palin wiped up the floor with Biden. she was the most interesting and attractive of them all. needs to stay away from the filtered interviews. natural, young, etc. he likes the gurl.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Flintlock (#90)

For me freedom means low taxes and no gun laws

I think we agree that we're no longer free in America. Don't we? Did you find anything resembling a valid interpretation of law in the prevailing opinion in the recent DC case in SCOTUS?

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:48:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#97)

Buchanan in character. His moneymaker character.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: buckeye (#3)

Panic is what's driving the bill as it stands now.

It's greed and coercion.

angle  posted on  2008-10-02   22:49:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: christine (#97)

Caller gets through on CSPAN and mentions CP and throws out neoconzionistthreat.com

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: buckeye (#99)

yep. as usual, despite his criticisms, he'll be voting republican.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:51:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#102)

Hispanic from Florida calls and says she's for McCain. Woo hoo! The payoff.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:51:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: buckeye, Jethro Tull (#0)

Mmmmm....HOT!!

Once again, Michelle Obama is no doubt screaming about "dat white bitch!!" at this point as Hussein Obama stutters and stammers to nobody in particular about his community service.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   22:53:50 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: X-15 (#104)

LOL. But I think the dead donkey represents America in this case.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:55:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: buckeye (#103) (Edited)

Palin did much better than I thought she would do. I think she won the debate easily. I wish she would have brought up Obama's ex pastor and the racist church he attended for 20 plus years though, but overall she was very good in this debate. She hit the home run necessary for McCain to make the come back he needs to win. I wish she was top of the ticket, I just might vote for her if she was.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-02   22:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: christine (#97)

Biden was a "known" value for the past 35 years.

Palin as an "unknown" value could do no worse.

I didnt watch as I have watched and listened to far too many of such for too long.

Debates are for the sheep, it is actions and decisions a person makes when president that counts. We have had few presidents that have been above the mundane for many years. Some better than expected, the rest worse than expected.

Lyndon Johnson was the worst and 65 per cent of the voters fell for his Pied Piper tune.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   22:56:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#97)

Pat Buchanan on MSNBC--Palin wiped up the floor with Biden. she was the most interesting and attractive of them all. needs to stay away from the filtered interviews. natural, young, etc. he likes the gurl.

He's sweet on her, but then that's his assigned job too. She did have a few zingers that made clear Biden was old OLDDDDDDDD guard flipflopper and she studied his voting record, against his primary positions, now on to his alliance with Obama. So, she did sort of claw him to death in a nice sort of way, bless her heart, dont you know, get extra credit for paying attention.

Still she's just the new face on the same snake oil. I guess that's something

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   22:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#106)

I think she won the debate easily.

I may be unique in reacting the way I did, but I can't stand her because she can stand in the same room with McCain.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: nikki, christine, buckeye (#108)

Voters like to vote for ..change..regardless of whom the changer is.

The only change we get is the change in our pocket left over from payday.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   22:59:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeye (#109)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: X-15 (#104)

Once again, Michelle Obama is no doubt screaming about "dat white bitch!!" at this point as Hussein Obama stutters and stammers to nobody in particular about his community service.

I can see both of them doing that. They would have been doing it even more so if she would have went after Obama's connection to the Trinity United Church of Christ and its pastor Jeremiah Wright though.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-02   23:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: Cynicom (#110)

Some callers talking about third party agenda, including the 4-item Ron Paul agenda.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: buckeye, nikki (#0)

Third Quarter:

Beavers: 21

Utah: 20

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeye (#98)

I think we agree that we're no longer free in America.

Yes. But Monkey Boy Obama will be the last nail in the coffin of freedom. A White House and Congress controlled by the RATS will be an orgy of socialism

Did you find anything resembling a valid interpretation of law in the prevailing opinion in the recent DC case in SCOTUS?

It was a step in thew right direction and the fallout of the decision could be a significant step in restoring the 2nd Amendment.

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: X-15 (#111)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

Tell me you don't really believe that would ever happen. She has an Israeli flag in her office, she has coddled Jews from the Alaska governor's office, and she clearly is a Zionist Christian Pentecostal. Please tell me you don't believe that.

If I believed that, I wouldn't breathe a word of criticism of her. She's not what she seems, just like every Republican President going back to and including Reagan hasn't been what they seemed. They are simply the best camouflage for the dismantling of our liberty the elite has going.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Cynicom (#110)

Voters like to vote for ..change..regardless of whom the changer is.

The only change we get is the change in our pocket left over from payday.

That's the truth.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Flintlock (#115)

You think the GOP candidates aren't all of those things and more? And no, not by a long shot was the SCOTUS case what you say it was. Not even close. It was actually a distinct step backwards, because the opposition was actually false.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Flintlock (#115) (Edited)

Yes. But Monkey Boy Obama will be the last nail in the coffin of freedom.

I really don't want to see Obummer in the Oval Office. I like living right now and I don't want to have to start shooting at the anti-constitutionalists just yet. Then again, if the shooting had started a few years back I'd have been more gung-ho on the whole Second Revolution concept.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: buckeye, Cynicom, christine, Tauzero (#92)

I thik Biden's ties into the Jewish world are deeper than told. I've heard that his grandparents were Iraqi Jews, which is how he was able to vote in the Iraqi elections - hence, the pic above that shows him with a purple finger.

Other breadcrumbs:

"Biden's son married into a Jewish family, but his keen interest in the region dates back to his first visit as a senator, not long before the 1973 Yom Kippur. He met Israel's then-prime minister, Golda Meir.

In an interview with Shalom TV last year, when he launched his own presidential bid, Biden said he came away from that meeting understanding that "there is this inextricable tie between culture, religion, ethnicity that most people don't fully understand—that is unique and so strong with Jews worldwide."

"When I was a young senator, I used to say, 'If I were a Jew I'd be a Zionist.' I am a Zionist," he said. "You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.""

http://www.jewishreview.org/Biden-and-the-Jews-Strong-ties-and-friendly-disagreements


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Original_Intent (#114)

yes! Thank You.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: X-15 (#111)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

That is the ...ONLY... long shot possibility that is on the positive side. The odds against are so staggering that one cannot compute.

When Palin was pulled out of the hat, I said just maybe someone has done this country a good turn...maybe...

If one looks at the matchups, it is rather odd.

Obummer takes on an old political hack that has been around Washington for 35 years. McKooK takes on a young female no one has ever heard of and from nowhere.

Politics is a dirty business and the odds of Palin being out of the mold are slim to none.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   23:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: bluegrass (#120)

I've heard that his grandparents were Iraqi Jews, which is how he was able to vote in the Iraqi elections - hence, the pic above that shows him with a purple finger.

Give me a break. Show your evidence. He's a typical sympath Goy, and apparently married to a Jew, and therefore possibly tied to their culture by wedlock.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: buckeye, Cynicom, christine, Tauzero (#120)

BTW, the above info, along with the major surviving finance houses contributing more to Obama than McCain, is what tells me that Obama and Biden will take the election.


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: buckeye (#116)

You can't EVER discount the "woman-factor". Estrogen and all that....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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