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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
Source: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://mms://rx-wes-sea150.rbn.com/ ... cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Views: 3392
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Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html

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#113. To: Cynicom (#110)

Some callers talking about third party agenda, including the 4-item Ron Paul agenda.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: buckeye, nikki (#0)

Third Quarter:

Beavers: 21

Utah: 20

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: buckeye (#98)

I think we agree that we're no longer free in America.

Yes. But Monkey Boy Obama will be the last nail in the coffin of freedom. A White House and Congress controlled by the RATS will be an orgy of socialism

Did you find anything resembling a valid interpretation of law in the prevailing opinion in the recent DC case in SCOTUS?

It was a step in thew right direction and the fallout of the decision could be a significant step in restoring the 2nd Amendment.

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   23:02:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: X-15 (#111)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

Tell me you don't really believe that would ever happen. She has an Israeli flag in her office, she has coddled Jews from the Alaska governor's office, and she clearly is a Zionist Christian Pentecostal. Please tell me you don't believe that.

If I believed that, I wouldn't breathe a word of criticism of her. She's not what she seems, just like every Republican President going back to and including Reagan hasn't been what they seemed. They are simply the best camouflage for the dismantling of our liberty the elite has going.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:04:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Cynicom (#110)

Voters like to vote for ..change..regardless of whom the changer is.

The only change we get is the change in our pocket left over from payday.

That's the truth.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:05:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Flintlock (#115)

You think the GOP candidates aren't all of those things and more? And no, not by a long shot was the SCOTUS case what you say it was. Not even close. It was actually a distinct step backwards, because the opposition was actually false.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:05:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: Flintlock (#115) (Edited)

Yes. But Monkey Boy Obama will be the last nail in the coffin of freedom.

I really don't want to see Obummer in the Oval Office. I like living right now and I don't want to have to start shooting at the anti-constitutionalists just yet. Then again, if the shooting had started a few years back I'd have been more gung-ho on the whole Second Revolution concept.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: buckeye, Cynicom, christine, Tauzero (#92)

I thik Biden's ties into the Jewish world are deeper than told. I've heard that his grandparents were Iraqi Jews, which is how he was able to vote in the Iraqi elections - hence, the pic above that shows him with a purple finger.

Other breadcrumbs:

"Biden's son married into a Jewish family, but his keen interest in the region dates back to his first visit as a senator, not long before the 1973 Yom Kippur. He met Israel's then-prime minister, Golda Meir.

In an interview with Shalom TV last year, when he launched his own presidential bid, Biden said he came away from that meeting understanding that "there is this inextricable tie between culture, religion, ethnicity that most people don't fully understand—that is unique and so strong with Jews worldwide."

"When I was a young senator, I used to say, 'If I were a Jew I'd be a Zionist.' I am a Zionist," he said. "You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist.""

http://www.jewishreview.org/Biden-and-the-Jews-Strong-ties-and-friendly-disagreements


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Original_Intent (#114)

yes! Thank You.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: X-15 (#111)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

That is the ...ONLY... long shot possibility that is on the positive side. The odds against are so staggering that one cannot compute.

When Palin was pulled out of the hat, I said just maybe someone has done this country a good turn...maybe...

If one looks at the matchups, it is rather odd.

Obummer takes on an old political hack that has been around Washington for 35 years. McKooK takes on a young female no one has ever heard of and from nowhere.

Politics is a dirty business and the odds of Palin being out of the mold are slim to none.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   23:07:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: bluegrass (#120)

I've heard that his grandparents were Iraqi Jews, which is how he was able to vote in the Iraqi elections - hence, the pic above that shows him with a purple finger.

Give me a break. Show your evidence. He's a typical sympath Goy, and apparently married to a Jew, and therefore possibly tied to their culture by wedlock.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:07:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: buckeye, Cynicom, christine, Tauzero (#120)

BTW, the above info, along with the major surviving finance houses contributing more to Obama than McCain, is what tells me that Obama and Biden will take the election.


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:08:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: buckeye (#116)

You can't EVER discount the "woman-factor". Estrogen and all that....

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:08:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: X-15 (#125)

Oh, for sure. That doesn't mean that she's a libertarian. She's helping get pure evil reelected.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:08:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Cynicom (#110)

Palin: "A wolverine attacking the pantleg of a passer-by." (some bighead on the teevee)

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-02   23:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Cynicom (#122)

The odds against are so staggering that one cannot compute.

Same odds that we could kick the British off our continent and establish a thriving constitutional Republic.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:09:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: bluegrass (#120)

Interesting. I thought the pic was a PR stunt. I didn't realize he actually voted in that election.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:10:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: bluegrass (#124)

BTW, the above info, along with the major surviving finance houses contributing more to Obama than McCain, is what tells me that Obama and Biden will take the election.

A lot of people are tired of Bush II and want no part of Bush III. If the GOP were conservative, they would have run someone who were. They like Obama's idea of interventionism better than Bush III's.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: All (#130)

A Ron Paul voter calls and says everyone's lying.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:11:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: buckeye (#116)

every Republican President going back to and including Reagan hasn't been what they seemed.

Boy, you have a serious screw loose

Reagan was the last honest President we had. Do you remember the "Firearms owners protect act" Educate yourself, you look like a fool to those who have.

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   23:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: bluegrass (#124)

Few people expect McKooK to win.

Black America will not elect him but white guilters will. It really makes no difference, except the race part, Obummer was created for a purpose. McKooK has always been with us.

No matter what loser wins, we lose.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   23:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: buckeye (#123)

He's a typical sympath Goy, and apparently married to a Jew, and therefore possibly tied to their culture by wedlock.

How do you explain the purple finger?


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:12:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: Flintlock (#132)

I get a kick out of people like you. But I'm getting tired of it at the same time. You're not free. Face it buddy.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:12:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#136. To: bluegrass (#134)

He didn't need Iraqi grandparents to stick his finger in dye.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:13:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#137. To: nikki (#121)

You're welcome.

Beaver's First and Ten from there own 30 after holding Utah to mid-field.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   23:13:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#138. To: Cynicom, christine (#122)

That is the ...ONLY... long shot possibility that is on the positive side.

Politics is a dirty business and the odds of Palin being out of the mold are slim to none.

After all that bullshit about being against government. hypo is a better moniker than cyni.

angle  posted on  2008-10-02   23:15:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#139. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#126)

Also, remember that she's a hunter. She pulls the trigger and kills large critters, something that practically nobody in D.C. does these days. When you hunt, you have a different mindset than non-hunters do. I'll take pretty much any hunter over the majority of non-hunters.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:16:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#140. To: Cynicom (#133)

Black America will not elect him but white guilters will.

Spoken like a bitter, small town, gun rubbing rube :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   23:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#141. To: angle, Cynicom (#138)

You misunderstand Cynicom. A part of him will always be a political wonk. He likes politics and is fascinated by what makes it work. That's separate from his values.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:17:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#142. To: X-15 (#139)

I'll take pretty much any hunter over the majority of non-hunters.

Sucker.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:17:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#143. To: nikki, buckeye (#129)

Interesting. I thought the pic was a PR stunt. I didn't realize he actually voted in that election.

Ack and pffft! My bad...

I can't back up that he voted. I do recall coming across evidence about three years ago that he has Jewish ancestry which is what made me make the link back then.

Nonetheless, even as an op, it was about as big a buttkissing of Neocon policy as he could do.


Ahmadinejad in 2008!

bluegrass  posted on  2008-10-02   23:18:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#144. To: Jethro Tull (#11)

I honestly have no idea why Palin is showing up with Gwen Ifill as moderator.

My wife says (I didn't watch) that she disproportionately gave Biden the last word, but that it didn't matter. She did good.

...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144

Tauzero  posted on  2008-10-02   23:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#145. To: bluegrass, Cynicom (#143)

There's a lot of cheap disinformation on the antisemite web. Don't fall for it.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:19:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#146. To: nikki (#137)

After a punt Utah goes 3 and out and the Beavers have the Ball at their own 40 1st and 10.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-02   23:20:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#147. To: buckeye (#135)

You're not free. Face it buddy.

Wrong again

But then, I had to work at it, plan, take risks, eat some baloney sandwiches, learn new languages, and wear out more than one passport.

It doesn't get any freer than me

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   23:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#148. To: Tauzero (#144)

I watched football, but I understand the same thing. Too bad she has McCain the open border freak as an anchor.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-02   23:21:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: Flintlock (#147)

If you think you're free, I don't want anything to do with you.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Jethro Tull (#140)

Spoken like a bitter, small town, gun rubbing rube :P

That barb by Obummer riled us low class, white trash Americans.

People decry racism yet he was allowed to demean with impunity. Thats ok, we understand, but I guarantee the cuzins that vote will recall what that SOB said.

A few more political signs have gone up, all McKooK, not a one Obummer.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02   23:21:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Original_Intent (#137)

Beaver's First and Ten from there own 30 after holding Utah to mid-field.

Good job. Let's go.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:22:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: angle (#138)

Politics is a dirty business and the odds of Palin being out of the mold are slim to none.

After all that bullshit about being against government. hypo is a better moniker than cyni

angle, huh? what is hypocritical about what Cyni wrote there? you read support of government?

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   23:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: Original_Intent (#146)

After a punt Utah goes 3 and out and the Beavers have the Ball at their own 40 1st and 10.

Okay, they lost it, got it back and now on the 40. Hang on to it, and push down the field. Tell them.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   23:23:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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