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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
Source: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://mms://rx-wes-sea150.rbn.com/ ... cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Views: 2135
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Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html

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#163. To: buckeye (#0)

If McCain is elected his tax plan along with his desire to spend hundreds of billions of dollars on immoral and unnecessary wars would do virtually nothing for the working class (it would hurt the country overall substantially more than the bush economic/war package has) but it would substantially benefit those who have substantially benefitted from the tax cuts of the past 6 years. The country's financial position would collapse within 2 years of him taking office.

I can't stand either candidate but if push comes to shove and I were asked which tax/economic plan I would be more willing to see come to fruition it would be the non-neocon tax/economic plan.

In 2009, the fully-phased-in McCain tax plan would, on average, provide a tax cut equal to 2.1 percent of after-tax income, or $1,230 (table 6). The distribution of benefits from his plan would be regressive. Households in the bottom quintile of the cash income distribution would receive an average tax cut of just 0.2 percent of income ($21) and those in the middle fifth of the income distribution would receive an average cut equal to 0.8 percent of income ($325). Households in the top quintile, however, would get an average tax cut of 3.2 percent of income ($6,498). For those in the upper portion of the top quintile, the decreases would be significantly larger. Taxpayers in the top 1 percent of the population would see their taxes fall by an average of 3.7 percent of income or almost $50,000 and the richest 1 in 1,000 would see an average tax cut of more than $290,000 or 4.7 percent of income.

From the CTJ.

www.ontheissues.org/2008/barack_obama_tax_reform.htm

www.ontheissues.org/2008/John_McCain_Tax_Reform.htm

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-02   23:32:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

McCain is Bush III². We couldn't be more stupid than to vote for McCain. But millions, and millions, and millions will. Conservative Christian Zionists are the core threat to our liberty today.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:34:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

#168. To: buckeye (#165)

millions will.

Sadly it may come down to race that decides the election.

Blacks voting for a man because of color and whites the opposite.

I do not like to think of the outcome, regardless of who "wins".

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-02 23:37:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Some of the members of my church still buy into the neocon lies and BS. Yesterday evening at Bible study I asked a simple question. I said I don't expect anybody to answer but to just think about the question.

As Christians we are anti-abortion. Some want to go as far as incarcerating and executing women who have abortions or lock them up for life as well as the doctors who perform the abortion. (I'm not that fanatical about revenge like some are). We all agreed that abortion is a sin and that life does begin before birth.

Then I asked what is a very simple question. Why do you call abortion murder, a sin, a crime and call for, in some cases, very severe punishment and yet when tens of thousands of babies and children are killed because of American bombs, bullets and war mongering politicians you casually refer to that as "collateral damage"?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-02 23:41:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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