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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
Source: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
URL Source: http://mms://rx-wes-sea150.rbn.com/ ... cspan/cspan/wmlive/cspan1v.asf
Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Views: 3332
Comments: 219

Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html

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#42. To: buckeye (#0)

clean coal/ carbon emissions?

Obama is a member of the Chicago Climate Exchange where they trade carbon emmission vouchers

It was a sweetheart deal, he was offered his "seat" (membership) for much less than the exchange sells them for now

Nice trade Monkey Boy, nice trade

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   21:43:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Flintlock (#42)

Palin thinks we can impact global warming with human means. She's a monkey woman too.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   21:44:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: buckeye (#43)

I want to make sure Monkey Boy Obama never goes hungry....his favorite food

Where do I send them?

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   22:19:31 ET  (2 images) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: everybody (#83)

i just got home. who's winning?

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:24:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: christine (#85)

i just got home. who's winning?

Almost every pundit that I've heard in the last two days, in their dilligent effort to help Biden 'know his bounds' in dealing with a WOMAN, said, don't talk down to her, and SMILE alot.

He looks like a grinning fool when she is speaking. I rather he forget all that phony stuff.

Palin, has been well prepped dontchaknow, darn right, heckuva thing, me'n'joe6pack and us mainstreeters. You you eastcoaster you.

Joe looks to be sweating a bit, Palin firin' back with, let's go back to this and your voting record and here's my record in AlaskAH!

She's sharp but nervous and wants the job, he's dull, sweaty, and on defense.

Some smart dancework on jobs for Americans here and there.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-02   22:37:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: nikki, Cynicom, all (#89)

Pat Buchanan on MSNBC--Palin wiped up the floor with Biden. she was the most interesting and attractive of them all. needs to stay away from the filtered interviews. natural, young, etc. he likes the gurl.

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:48:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: christine (#97)

Buchanan in character. His moneymaker character.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:49:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: buckeye (#99)

yep. as usual, despite his criticisms, he'll be voting republican.

christine  posted on  2008-10-02   22:51:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: christine (#102)

Hispanic from Florida calls and says she's for McCain. Woo hoo! The payoff.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:51:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: buckeye (#103) (Edited)

Palin did much better than I thought she would do. I think she won the debate easily. I wish she would have brought up Obama's ex pastor and the racist church he attended for 20 plus years though, but overall she was very good in this debate. She hit the home run necessary for McCain to make the come back he needs to win. I wish she was top of the ticket, I just might vote for her if she was.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-02   22:56:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: RickyJ (#106)

I think she won the debate easily.

I may be unique in reacting the way I did, but I can't stand her because she can stand in the same room with McCain.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   22:58:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: buckeye (#109)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

X-15  posted on  2008-10-02   23:01:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: X-15 (#111)

Wouldn't it be funny if McStain croaked a few months into term a la Roosevelt in 1944 and Palin kicked out all the D.C. bastards and brought in some of her own independent-minded people from Alaska and around the country??

Tell me you don't really believe that would ever happen. She has an Israeli flag in her office, she has coddled Jews from the Alaska governor's office, and she clearly is a Zionist Christian Pentecostal. Please tell me you don't believe that.

If I believed that, I wouldn't breathe a word of criticism of her. She's not what she seems, just like every Republican President going back to and including Reagan hasn't been what they seemed. They are simply the best camouflage for the dismantling of our liberty the elite has going.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02   23:04:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: buckeye (#116)

every Republican President going back to and including Reagan hasn't been what they seemed.

Boy, you have a serious screw loose

Reagan was the last honest President we had. Do you remember the "Firearms owners protect act" Educate yourself, you look like a fool to those who have.

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-02   23:11:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Flintlock (#132)

Reagan was the last honest President we had.

Yeah, that guy was so hated by the MSM that they wouldn't even acknowledge that it was a son of a good friend of George H. W. Bush that tried to kill Reagan. I don't believe for one second that Bush didn't know anything about the assassination attempt before hand. He wanted to be president right away so he could get the NWO started. Fortunately God was on Reagan's side and the bullet didn't kill him.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-02   23:42:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: RickyJ (#172)

Reagan's economic policies nearly destroyed the economy.

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-02   23:43:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#173) (Edited)

Reagan's economic policies nearly destroyed the economy.

The lies about and hate for this man continue to this day from the loonies.

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-02   23:54:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#184. To: RickyJ (#183)

Look at what Charlotte Iserbyt has said about Reagan and the Department of Education. We're not making this up. Reagan went along with a lot of destructive agendas.

buckeye  posted on  2008-10-02 23:55:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#196. To: RickyJ (#183)

Have you ever read the impact of Reganomics? And I'm not talking about the neocon lies.

http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/zFacts-2005-Nominal-Debt-Reagan.gif

The national debt when Ronald Reagan took office was about $1 trillion. That included in it all the debt run up for the Revolutionary war, the Spanish-American war, the Civil war, World War I, World War II, the Korean war, the Vietnam war and all the Social wars of the 1930's and subsequent years. In other words it took the United States from 1776 until 1980 or more than 200 years to accumulate a national debt of $1 trillion.

Ronald Reagan left us a national debt of about $3.5 trillion or $3,500 billion.

Unemployment stood at 7.5 percent at his inauguration, and it averaged that same 7.5 percent during his entire eight years. The jobless rate was 5.4 percent when Reagan left office.

he Reagan tax cut of 1981 was followed, under Reagan, by the biggest tax increase in American history, in terms of taxes raised as a proportion of GDP, and then followed by additional tax increases every year that Reagan was in office until the last, and increases under Clinton and Bush I. Here's how Bruce Bartlett (an economist and Reagan adviser who supports Republican taxcutting policies) describes the Reagan tax increases that followed the Reagan 1981 tax cuts:

Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion. According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. Bruce Bartlett, A Taxing Experience, National Review Online, Oct. 29, 2003.

revenue growth from trough to peak will look better than the reverse. Unfortunately, business cycles don’t correspond to administrations. But looking at revenue changes peak to peak is still revealing. So here’s the annual rate of growth of real revenue per capita over some cycles:

1973-1979: 2.7%

1979-1990: 1.8%

1990-2000: 3.2%

Economic growth indices -- GDP, jobs, revenues -- were all positive when Carter left office. All plunged after Reagan policies took effect.

Here's the truth: the total federal tax burden increased during the Reagan years, and most Americans paid more in taxes after Reagan than before. The "Reagan Recovery" was unremarkable. It looks great only contrasted against the dismal Reagan Recession

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-03 02:02:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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