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Title: Live VP Debate Thread October 2nd
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Published: Oct 2, 2008
Author: rncnyc2004.blogspot.com
Post Date: 2008-10-02 19:36:17 by buckeye
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Dennis Kucinich railing against the bailout bill RIGHT NOW on this channel, which seem to be where the debate will be. From rncnyc2004.blogspot.com/2...al-candidates-debate.html
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#169. To: buckeye, Cynicom (#162)
I hear ya. I don't fumble it much but they're doozies when I do.
The TV tells us what to do, and most dutifully follow its lead. I see how this works. Who controls the TV controls the world.
Some of the members of my church still buy into the neocon lies and BS. Yesterday evening at Bible study I asked a simple question. I said I don't expect anybody to answer but to just think about the question. As Christians we are anti-abortion. Some want to go as far as incarcerating and executing women who have abortions or lock them up for life as well as the doctors who perform the abortion. (I'm not that fanatical about revenge like some are). We all agreed that abortion is a sin and that life does begin before birth. Then I asked what is a very simple question. Why do you call abortion murder, a sin, a crime and call for, in some cases, very severe punishment and yet when tens of thousands of babies and children are killed because of American bombs, bullets and war mongering politicians you casually refer to that as "collateral damage"?
Yeah, that guy was so hated by the MSM that they wouldn't even acknowledge that it was a son of a good friend of George H. W. Bush that tried to kill Reagan. I don't believe for one second that Bush didn't know anything about the assassination attempt before hand. He wanted to be president right away so he could get the NWO started. Fortunately God was on Reagan's side and the bullet didn't kill him.
God is always good!
Reagan's economic policies nearly destroyed the economy.
That is why freedom on the internet is in danger.
Just for you, buckeye. ;-)
Amen!
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Well I was a bit hasty there. I apologize. If you feel you're free, then I'm glad for you.
Right, no one would pay him. He is a Ron Paul supporter. But he is wrong saying that you aren't free. Anyone can be free if they want to be. It is a choice made by each individual. I am glad you have achieved personal freedom. Hopefully more will join you soon.
God is always good!
Unfortunately, Obama and Biden want to take us to war killing more people in order to stop other people from killing, even when we have no reason to do this. Biden has a history of it, as he plainly mentioned (Bosnia). I don't think we can be sure that this clan will keep us out of unnecessary war, either.
Are you sure you're not a moonie? God Bless Ronald Reagan!
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
So am (was) I, but he lost and I have to accept the new situation. It was more than a choice. It took years of hard work and planning. That said, I thank you and wish you luck.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Reagan expanded the federal government tremendously. He also presided over big development of the continuity in government program that Oliver North can't talk about. That's what Alex Jones mentions in terms of the relocation camps he suggests will be used for people who won't go along with martial law.
The lies about and hate for this man continue to this day from the loonies.
God is always good!
Look at what Charlotte Iserbyt has said about Reagan and the Department of Education. We're not making this up. Reagan went along with a lot of destructive agendas.
2:20 to go in the 4th Quarter. Moevo Touchdown Pass Beavers lead 28-20. I think they have proven that the USC victory was NOT a fluke.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
I thought you weren't going to talk to me anymore I guess I'm not that lucky
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Aw shucks, X-15. Thanks.
In which term? What part of that term? Ronald Reagan was suffering from Alzheimer's at the start of his second term. Soon after that poppy bush was calling the shots
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Utah scores quickly goes for 2 and makes it. With 1:29 to go 28-28.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
did you get an answer from anyone?
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Moevo Touchdown Pass Beavers lead 28-20. I think they have proven that the USC victory was NOT a fluke. Thanks for the update. God that was a sweet win.
With 1:29 to go 28-28. Arrrrrrrrrgh.
I'll have to catch the final on the toob. Good night to all.
Everybody loves a winner.
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Have you ever read the impact of Reganomics? And I'm not talking about the neocon lies. http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/zFacts-2005-Nominal-Debt-Reagan.gif The national debt when Ronald Reagan took office was about $1 trillion. That included in it all the debt run up for the Revolutionary war, the Spanish-American war, the Civil war, World War I, World War II, the Korean war, the Vietnam war and all the Social wars of the 1930's and subsequent years. In other words it took the United States from 1776 until 1980 or more than 200 years to accumulate a national debt of $1 trillion. Ronald Reagan left us a national debt of about $3.5 trillion or $3,500 billion. Unemployment stood at 7.5 percent at his inauguration, and it averaged that same 7.5 percent during his entire eight years. The jobless rate was 5.4 percent when Reagan left office. he Reagan tax cut of 1981 was followed, under Reagan, by the biggest tax increase in American history, in terms of taxes raised as a proportion of GDP, and then followed by additional tax increases every year that Reagan was in office until the last, and increases under Clinton and Bush I. Here's how Bruce Bartlett (an economist and Reagan adviser who supports Republican taxcutting policies) describes the Reagan tax increases that followed the Reagan 1981 tax cuts: Reagan may have resisted calls for tax increases, but he ultimately supported them. In 1982 alone, he signed into law not one but two major tax increases. The Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act (TEFRA) raised taxes by $37.5 billion per year and the Highway Revenue Act raised the gasoline tax by another $3.3 billion. According to a recent Treasury Department study, TEFRA alone raised taxes by almost 1 percent of the gross domestic product, making it the largest peacetime tax increase in American history. Bruce Bartlett, A Taxing Experience, National Review Online, Oct. 29, 2003. revenue growth from trough to peak will look better than the reverse. Unfortunately, business cycles don’t correspond to administrations. But looking at revenue changes peak to peak is still revealing. So here’s the annual rate of growth of real revenue per capita over some cycles: 1973-1979: 2.7% 1979-1990: 1.8% 1990-2000: 3.2% Economic growth indices -- GDP, jobs, revenues -- were all positive when Carter left office. All plunged after Reagan policies took effect. Here's the truth: the total federal tax burden increased during the Reagan years, and most Americans paid more in taxes after Reagan than before. The "Reagan Recovery" was unremarkable. It looks great only contrasted against the dismal Reagan Recession
Oh my, here's Reagan at the Grove with his buddies (Nixon too).
A once free nation established through Revolution is now forbidden from questioning the authorities without fear of being defamed, renditioned or murdered.
Reagan's "character in the movie" so to speak was folksy and likeable. But he was the emperor, and empires are bad.
And even "christian" though he visited the grove and sought guidance from astrologers and mediums. [Hypocrisy is the most common practice amongst the emperors and other elites].
A once free nation established through Revolution is now forbidden from questioning the authorities without fear of being defamed, renditioned or murdered.
The western governing class thinks that majority rule is the moral justification for political elitism. So Christians or not, they're saying that it's ok to beat up minorities and steal their property. There's some hypocrisy for you!
Reagan accepted Bush I as his VP at the beginning, some say at the behest of Rockefeller (although he had promised he would not). He had also promised to abolish the Department of Education, but he did not. That's how we came to know Charlotte Iserbyt, author of The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America: deliberatedumbingdown.com.
In the last two years of his reign, he couldn't articulate a complete sentence. He ushered in the domination of the defense industry as well as the bush cheney rumsfeld cabal. He was as crooked as the rest and the Iran Contra coverup perfectly depicts his administration.
OMG! You are a pathetic little leftist turd muncher. Too bad you didn't live in Chile in those years. This man would have sorted you out...but good Poof! Where's angle? Why he's disappeared!
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Play your little games. If you don't want to read the documents that show what how close it brought America to a financial disaster then live in your fantasy world. People can't be forced to accept facts and truth.
I'm not sure either. I'm starting to believe we are seeing the neocon - communist takeover of our country and short of people going to the streets I don't believe there is much hope of stopping it.
Amen. We should be thankful for those like Iserbyt and Barbara Honegger
You are a loser. How do you look at yourself in the mirror in the morning without puking? It must be hard.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
Look nitwit. If you're gonna talk about "The Great Helmsman" get your facts straight. Bush was shoved down the throat of RR as veep. They hated each other. To this day Nancy Reagan won't talk to the bushs RR was the greatest President in out lifetime......you're not fit to shine his shoes. Gotta run. It's time for the adults to go to work.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
I can see Flintlock is just some kid or another yukon type and has no interest in our country, facts or the truth. It it a shame some Americans like himself are proof that there are times when the baby died and the afterbirth lived. He lives in a fantasy world. They obviously are not worth wasting a second of our time on. By the way along with a few other new and interesting items are now available at the National Security Archives web site. PR Push for Iraq War Preceded Intelligence Findings "White Paper" Drafted before NIE even Requested National Security Archive Electronic Briefing Book No. 254 Posted - August 22, 2008 For more information contact: John Prados - (202) 994-7000 Washington D.C., August 22, 2008 - The U.S. intelligence community buckled sooner in 2002 than previously reported to Bush administration pressure for data justifying an invasion of Iraq, according to a documents posting on the Web today by National Security Archive senior fellow John Prados. The documents suggest that the public relations push for war came before the intelligence analysis, which then conformed to public positions taken by Pentagon and White House officials. For example, a July 2002 draft of the "White Paper" ultimately issued by the CIA in October 2002 actually pre-dated the National Intelligence Estimate that the paper purportedly summarized, but which Congress did not insist on until September 2002. A similar comparison between a declassified draft and the final version of the British government's "White Paper" on Iraq weapons of mass destruction adds to evidence that the two nations colluded in the effort to build public support for the invasion of Iraq. Dr. Prados concludes that the new evidence tends to support charges raised by former White House press secretary Scott McClellan and by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence in its long-delayed June 2008 "Phase II" report on politicization of intelligence.
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#170. To: Cynicom (#168)
#171. To: buckeye (#165)
#172. To: Flintlock (#132)
Reagan was the last honest President we had.
#173. To: RickyJ (#172)
#174. To: buckeye (#170)
Who controls the TV controls the world.
#175. To: buckeye (#142)
Sucker.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#176. To: RickyJ (#172)
Fortunately God was on Reagan's side and the bullet didn't kill him
#177. To: Flintlock (#167)
#178. To: Flintlock (#167)
With all the time you spent posting, you see to have plenty of time to waste. Or do you get paid for it? (naw, nobody would pay you)
#179. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#171)
Why do you call abortion murder, a sin, a crime and call for, in some cases, very severe punishment and yet when tens of thousands of babies and children are killed because of American bombs, bullets and war mongering politicians you casually refer to that as "collateral damage"?
#180. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#173)
Reagan's economic policies nearly destroyed the economy.
#181. To: RickyJ (#178)
He is a Ron Paul supporter.
It is a choice made by each individual. I am glad you have achieved personal freedom. Hopefully more will join you soon.
#182. To: Flintlock (#180)
#183. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#173)
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Reagan's economic policies nearly destroyed the economy.
#184. To: RickyJ (#183)
#185. To: nikki (#164)
#186. To: buckeye (#182)
Blah...camps...Oliver North..blah, blah blah
#187. To: X-15 (#175)
#188. To: buckeye (#184)
Reagan went along with a lot of destructive agendas.
#189. To: nikki (#185)
#190. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#171)
Why do you call abortion murder, a sin, a crime and call for, in some cases, very severe punishment and yet when tens of thousands of babies and children are killed because of American bombs, bullets and war mongering politicians you casually refer to that as "collateral damage"?
#191. To: Original_Intent (#185)
2:20 to go in the 4th Quarter.
#192. To: Original_Intent (#189)
Utah scores quickly goes for 2 and makes it.
#193. To: Original_Intent (#189)
#194. To: bluegrass (#124)
BTW, the above info, along with the major surviving finance houses contributing more to Obama than McCain, is what tells me that Obama and Biden will take the election.
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#195. To: christine (#190)
#196. To: RickyJ (#183)
#197. To: buckeye (#184)
#198. To: noone222, buckeye (#197)
"here's Reagan at the Grove with his buddies"
#199. To: Peter Carswell (#198)
Reagan's "character in the movie" so to speak was folksy and likeable.
#200. To: noone222 (#199)
"Hypocrisy is the most common practice amongst the emperors"
#201. To: Flintlock (#188)
In which term?
#202. To: Flintlock (#180)
#203. To: angle (#202)
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the Iran Contra coverup
#204. To: Flintlock (#180)
#205. To: buckeye (#179)
#206. To: buckeye (#184)
#207. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#204)
Blah, blah, blah
#208. To: buckeye (#201)
Reagan accepted Bush I as his VP at the beginning, some say at the behest of Rockefeller
#209. To: buckeye (#201)
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