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Title: Judge denies stay, orders discovery of Obama's birth certificates
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Published: Oct 9, 2008
Author: Starwind
Post Date: 2008-10-09 12:18:48 by Starwind
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Views: 3082
Comments: 101

Follow it free at BERG v. OBAMA et al (Justia) (not updated yet)

Follow it via Pacer at United States District Court Eastern District of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:08-cv-04083-RBS (current as of this AM)

This AM, Judge R. Barclay Surrick, J. ordered (document #18):

ORDERED and DECREED as follows:

1. Defendants Motion for Protective Order Staying Discovery pending the Court's Decision on Defendants dispositive Motion is DENIED;
2. Defendants are hereby ORDERED to Answer Plaintiff's Discovery Requests by way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents by October 15, 2008.

Poster Comment:

This could be a game changer.

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#1. To: Starwind (#0)

Yep......operative word is COULD. So often, everyone gets disappointed cause things come to naught.

I'm not planning to hold my breath.....LOL.

Great to see you posting Starwind. Miss your great comments.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-09   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So often, everyone gets disappointed cause things come to naught.

Indeed. The wheels of Justice grind slowly, and often go flat (e.g. Libby's pardon and the end of Plamegate investigation).

In this case, it would not have gotten this far if there weren't a lot of evidence demonstrating ambiguity of Obama's status. Further, this isn't a case that can be pardoned away. It could only be suppressed on appeal, and I don't see the basis for Obama prevail on appeal to prevent discovery.

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-09   13:06:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

IT is indeed interesting that the judge, rather than just tossing the case out or declaring he has no standing or some other horsepockey reason to stymie the very real questions, has given them a week to come up with some answers.

I think maybe I am starting to see some that is sort of being alluded to, or suggested.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-10   13:06:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A news blog has now picked up the story:

Obama's Citizenship?:

I have just recently found a lawsuit being "fought" to determine the citizenship of Barack Obama. I simply cannot believe the mainstream media has not informed the Country of the presence and details of this lawsuit.

[Starwind: lol - go figure]

[...snip...] The heart of the lawsuit appears to be a request Obama produce: (1). "Obama's "vault" version (certified copy of his "original" long version) birth certificate; (2). A certified copy of Obama's Certificate of Citizenship; (3). A certified copy of Obama's oath of allegiance. Apparently Obama has refused to supply such documents. He has recently been ordered by the Court to produce the documents. [....snip]

And the Justia copy of the dockett has been updated:
http://news.justia.com/cases/featured/ pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/

and the Crt Order I excerpted above can be down loaded free from Justia:
http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/ district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/18/0.pdf

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-10   16:41:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

A conservative news/comment site has picked up the story:

Finally! It's Berg vs Obama In Federal Court!

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-10   19:17:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Ping to Starwind's #28 and #29.

christine  posted on  2008-10-11   16:05:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's another:

This could be the game changer

There is a youtube video at the link from "illuminati productions" about Obama's questioned birth certificates. I've not seen the full video, only first couple of minutes, .... youtube seems to hang a lot lately. The video is:

"I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise)"

at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_k3NtXZs

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-11   19:33:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Good stuff Star, thanks.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-11   19:40:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Good stuff Star, thanks.

Enjoy... but I gather everyone has been.

lol - I just now realized the video "I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise)" is the "October Surprise" video everyone is posting about hither and yon.

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-11   20:04:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

So I have now seen the full "October Surprise" video. I watched at a different link than I posted above :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyspCRmJv7w&NR=1

(but it seems identical to "I Invented The Internet (Ep. 6: October Surprise)" linked in my post #31)

Note carefully, the video was made before the Judge denied Obama's move to stay discovery, and the Judge just two days ago Ordered Obama and the DNC to produce the documents and answer the questions as part of Berg's discovery. The Judge gave Obama until Wednesday, Oct 15th to provide documents and answers. Given a couple days grace, by Friday Obama will:
a) Appeal, which in itself will be newsworthy
b) Provide answers, which will again be newsworthy
c) do nothing, missing the deadline, which will again be newsworthy

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-11   21:37:01 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Where's Obama's proof of citizenship?

The "October Surprise" video is linked therein, and the Examiner journalist, Dan Spencer, does not seem to be aware that since then the Judge has Ordered Obama to answer Berg's discovery requests.

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-12   11:01:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

great video, thanks.

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-12   14:14:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here is an international news report, referencing Berg's lawsuit and a video but no link, and seemingly unaware yet that Berg has prevailed in court ordered discovery.

Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-12   21:18:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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