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Title: Judge denies stay, orders discovery of Obama's birth certificates
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Published: Oct 9, 2008
Author: Starwind
Post Date: 2008-10-09 12:18:48 by Starwind
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Views: 3065
Comments: 101

Follow it free at BERG v. OBAMA et al (Justia) (not updated yet)

Follow it via Pacer at United States District Court Eastern District of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:08-cv-04083-RBS (current as of this AM)

This AM, Judge R. Barclay Surrick, J. ordered (document #18):

ORDERED and DECREED as follows:

  1. Defendants Motion for Protective Order Staying Discovery pending the Court's Decision on Defendants dispositive Motion is DENIED;
  2. Defendants are hereby ORDERED to Answer Plaintiff's Discovery Requests by way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents by October 15, 2008.


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#36. To: All (#35)

Barack Obama's Secretive Nature

This report links, and is another that seems 'triggered' by, the "October Surprise" video.

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-12   12:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Cynicom (#2)

Even when the document is entered into evidence and all can see that he was indeed born on Hawai'i, you can always argue that as Hawai'i is admittedly illegally seized and conquered territory anyone born there has no constitutional standing to serve as POTUS.

Just as the Democrats could have vigorously fought McCain's eligibility fir this office based on his birth in Panama. They had the good character not to, and the Rove World/Swift Boat world producing this bizarre and pointless lawsuit shows they are character deficit.

This is a side show and a tempest in a teapot. It has gone nowhere and will go nowhere. That's just how it is.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-12   13:38:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Starwind (#36)

Barry Hussein is NTBT - not to be trusted. I'll never refer to his ilk as 'president.'

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-12   13:45:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

That's just how it is.

agreed...

Just have Obango show the birth certificate, settle the matter.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-12   13:45:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Starwind (#35)

great video, thanks.


I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802

farmfriend  posted on  2008-10-12   14:14:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: all (#40)

Here is an international news report, referencing Berg's lawsuit and a video but no link, and seemingly unaware yet that Berg has prevailed in court ordered discovery.

Obama Born In Kenya? His Grandmother Says Yes

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-12   21:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Jethro Tull (#38)

Barry Hussein is NTBT - not to be trusted. I'll never refer to his ilk as 'president.'

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-12   21:32:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: rowdee, Starwind (#1)

Great to see you posting Starwind. Miss your great comments.

Likewise.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-12   21:33:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lodwick (#6)

I couldn't provide mine if my very life depended on it.

What, you a wetback or something? ;^)

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-12   21:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#44)

Another 'hat tip' to the "October Surprise" video:

Does Barack Obama Meet the Qualifications to be President of the USA?

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-13   13:27:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#45)

Here's the first report I've seen that is now aware Obama has been ordered to produce his birth certificate, etc.:

Unconvinced Obama's a citizen

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   9:52:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

Here's some Washington Times commentary wherein the reader responses are more current than the 'commentariat':
GAFFNEY: The jihadist vote

And a summation from Fox News in Toledo Ohio but still seems unaware the Court has Ordered discovery:
Former UT law grad sues Obama, questions citizenship

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   10:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Starwind (#47)

Every community college student takes a trip to Pakistan, don't they? And think back to what that region looked like in '81....martial law....government turmoil...the Soviets shaking their fist.... What a pant load

Barry is as dirty as a Times Sq. hooker

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-14   10:23:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Starwind (#47)

By: Tunes59 "Curiously, Mr. Obama has, to date, failed to provide an authentic birth certificate which could clear up the matter"

I find this slightly more than curious! I think this will cause a Constitutional crisis if not resolved before the election. Every American citizen needs to call on Mr. Obama to prove his Constitutional qualifications.

So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents. Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can’t Mr. Obama?

what constitution? /sarcasm

if this is true, those who selected obama knew it and also knew that it wouldn't matter. the PTB are proving they can place anyone they want for whatever purpose. we shall soon see what that purpose is.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-14   10:43:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Jethro Tull (#48)

Barry is as dirty as a Times Sq. hooker

Now, now. Let's not insult Times Square hookers. They at least make an honest living, if not a sincere one.

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   10:53:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Starwind (#17)

Replace him with ummmm... hmmmm... let me think... Ron Paul?

Ron Paul has stated he is a Republican and will stay a Republican so I guess he would have to turn it down if the Democrat party offered it to him. Why he wants to stay a Republican is beyond me.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-14   11:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: christine (#49) (Edited)

if this is true, those who selected obama knew it and also knew that it wouldn't matter.

Actually, I've wondered what they knew and when they knew it. I've wondered how much Obama even knew. He may have believed, uncritically, most of his life that his citizenship status was no different than anyone elses. When he ran for national office, his ambiguous status was overlooked. The FEC is to blame for not rigorously enforcing and publicizing eligibility.

So when he considered the presidency and was nominated, his eligibility may have been overlooked again and assumed by most, except Hillary who I would expect knew and is using the info as a well-played trump card.

By the time it was questioned, the die had been cast and was too late to back out - too much egg on too many faces - and he is trying to bluff/delay his way into having his eligibility ignored, again.

I'm confident that Obama knew he had a problem not later than when the issue first surfaced, at which point I'm sure he asked family members where he was actually born and where was the proof. He's been doing damage control ever since.

I've also wondered, if his citizenship status is disproven, what might the consequences be for any legislation and procedural votes wherein the difference was one vote - arguably his illegitimate vote - leading to the Mother of all Mulligans.

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   11:07:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Starwind (#52)

Except he was born in Hawai'i and this game being played on his birth place is just one of many false E mail spread rumors that have no point but character assasination. This is gaining no traction because it is a falsehood, pure and simple.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   11:13:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

This is gaining no traction because it is a falsehood, pure and simple.

lol - the judge obviously thought otherwise.

(Be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves)

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   11:19:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Ferret Mike, All (#53)

Except he was born in Hawai'i

This was never proven.

Obama said he was born in two-different Hawaii hospitals.

Obama's Grandmother said he was born in Kenya.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   12:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Ferret Mike (#53)

This is gaining no traction because it is a falsehood, pure and simple.

That's why Obama won't produce a legitimate birth certificate despite it hurting him in the polls. LOL!

It is going somewhere buddy, and you are going to have to find some other communist to support.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2008-10-14   12:51:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: RickyJ (#56)

Nah, it is a waste of time and one of many pointless E mail originated games Swift Boating types are playing.

Oh and Ricky Retardo, just generally, not just related to this topic, go fuck yourself.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   20:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Starwind (#54)

"lol - the judge obviously thought otherwise."

The judge has to respect process in civil actions. I am not the least bit worried that this tempest in a teapot will run it's course and die with the same whimper most other 'slap' suits die with.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   20:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)

And you know, he was born in Hawai'i. And I don't give a shit about this circle jerk you all are doing in here with one of many Swift Boat style liefests about Barack Obama.

Stop bothering me with it.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   20:21:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Ferret Mike (#59)

You're still here you left-wingnut loser?

I'm still waiting for you to come over to my place and kill me.

I'm also waiting for monkey boy Barry Soertoro/Obama to produce

His Birth Certificate

His travel/passport records

His medical records

His educational records

WHY WON'T HE PRODUCE THE RECORDS?

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-14   20:30:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Flintlock (#60)

"I'm still waiting for you to come over to my place and kill me."

Heh, OK, where do you live? ;-D

Why would I want to off a wingnut like you?

I mean, better the asshole you know then one you don't, yues? And I bet your replacement in here would be a real stinker, possibly worse then you are.

Stop being such a butthead.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   20:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Ferret Mike (#61)

Stop being such a butthead.

You stop being a tool and (as your hero Lenin would say) "useful idiot" for the left

So when is Barry Soetoro aka: Barak Obama going to provide us with his Birth Certificate and the other documents the court ordered?

Or is he going to spend election night in jail on contempt charges? Obama is not only not eligible to run for President. He's not even in the country legally! He's a wetback fraud that needs to be deported!

Now, go climb a very tall tree and with some luck, you'll fall out.

It's the second mouse that gets the cheese

Flintlock  posted on  2008-10-14   20:58:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Ferret Mike, ALL (#59)

And you know, he was born in Hawai'i. And I don't give a shit about this circle jerk you all are doing in here with one of many Swift Boat style liefests about Barack Obama.

Stop bothering me with it.

What is Obama Hiding?

Why won't he present his documents?

America does not need another "sneaky" president.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   23:33:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Flintlock (#62)

"Now, go climb a very tall tree and with some luck, you'll fall out."

Too late, already did that; have the scars to prove it too.

And I like Tori Amos a hell of allot more then I like a dead Soviet leader.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:46:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: TwentyTwelve (#63)

If you can't get a clue, buy a vowel.

Do you fucking think that by spamming me I am going to suddenly take nonsense seriously?

No. Now your delusions and myopia are your problem, you deal with it, I cannot help you.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

If you can't get a clue, buy a vowel.

The heart of Berg’s lawsuit claims three things.

1. Senator Obama is not a naturalized citizen and/or

2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia and/or

3. Has dual or conflicting national loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Senator Obama is not a naturalized citizen and/or 2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia and/or 3. Has dual or conflicting national loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg alleges Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate from the state of Hawaii is a forgery per three independent document forensic experts. He alleges Obama was born in Kenya as his mother (Stanley Ann Dunham, aged 18) traveled there with her husband, Barack Obama, a Kenyan national, but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy. [Wiki trivia: Obama, Sr. and Dunham married in 1961 while Obama, Sr. was still married to his first wife from Kenya, whom he never divorced. Obama, Sr. is dead now, but divorced from Dunham in 1964. So the Barackcuda is literally a son of a bigamist.] Berg claims Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed the same; that Barack was born in Kenya and his mother subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth. If Obama was truly born in Kenya, Berg claims, the contemporary laws hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. As Ms. Dunham was too young, therefore citizenship could not legally be passed on to him. Therefore Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   23:51:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Ferret Mike (#65)

Now your delusions and myopia are your problem, you deal with it, I cannot help you.

What is Obama Hiding?

Why won't he present his documents?

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   23:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: TwentyTwelve (#67)

Why don't motorcycles have doors?

Why don't ducks come with talons?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:55:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: TwentyTwelve (#66)

Spam scrollby. Didn't read it of course, but I am amused by your anal behavior, Perry Mason.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: TwentyTwelve (#67)

What is Obama Hiding?

Why won't he present his documents?

Those are good questions. You would think that if Obama is actually an American citizen, born in Hawaii as he claims he was, that it shouldn't be a big problem to produce an original birth certificate proving it. The fact that he hasn't done so seems to indicate a problem with his citizenship OR a lack of character. Wouldn't any sane person running for president produce a real birth certificate if their eligibility were questioned?

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-14   23:58:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Ferret Mike (#69)

Didn't read it of course.

You probably wouldn't understand it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-15   0:00:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: James Deffenbach (#70)

What is Obama Hiding?

Why won't he present his documents?

Those are good questions. You would think that if Obama is actually an American citizen, born in Hawaii as he claims he was, that it shouldn't be a big problem to produce an original birth certificate proving it. The fact that he hasn't done so seems to indicate a problem with his citizenship OR a lack of character. Wouldn't any sane person running for president produce a real birth certificate if their eligibility were questioned?

Obama is hiding for sure.

It is a long time until election day.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-15   0:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: TwentyTwelve (#55)

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Obama said he was born in two-different Hawaii hospitals.

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Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
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James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-15   0:07:01 ET  (6 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Starwind (#50)

Now, now. Let's not insult Times Square hookers. They at least make an honest living, if not a sincere one.

Eggzacutigly! I see no reason to insult hookers with comparisons to lying politicians.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-15   0:10:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: James Deffenbach, christine (#73)

Conservative radio hosts repeat discredited claim that Obama has not produced valid U.S. birth certificate

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-15   0:12:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Starwind (#34)

Note carefully, the video was made before the Judge denied Obama's move to stay discovery, and the Judge just two days ago Ordered Obama and the DNC to produce the documents and answer the questions as part of Berg's discovery. The Judge gave Obama until Wednesday, Oct 15th to provide documents and answers. Given a couple days grace, by Friday Obama will: a) Appeal, which in itself will be newsworthy b) Provide answers, which will again be newsworthy c) do nothing, missing the deadline, which will again be newsworthy

Are you sure? There was some confusion about this when people who read the order prepared by Berg (that's how its done-the attorney requesting an order prepares it for the judge's sig) didn't realize that it was not signed, but, they reported it as if the judge had written the order instead of Berg as part of his original filing.

And, according to the docket (with it's latest entry being 10/09) the only order so far is the denial of the motion for TRO below:

August 22, 2008 4 ORDER THAT UPON CONSIDERATION OF PLAINITFF'S MOTION FOR TEMPORARY RESTRAINING ORDER (DOC. NO. 2) AND AFTER HAVING A HEARING IN OPEN COURT IT IS ORDERED THAT THE MOTION IS DENIED. SIGNED BY HONORABLE R. BARCLAY SURRICK ON 8/22/08. 8/22/08 ENTERED AND COPIES FAXED FROM CHAMBERS. (jpd) (Entered: August 22, 2008)

___________________________

It is my belief that besides the routine denial of the restraining order nothing else has been ordered by the court to date.

Here's a link for someone who made the mistake then apologized.

Here's the same mistake with the second poster setting the first one straight on his boo boo.

And, one more.

Judge Orders Obama to Produce Birth Certificate

08 Oct

Posted by MacRanger as 2008 Election, Barack Obama, Election 2008

Hmmmmm…

” This article is a rewrite of last week’s article on Philip J. Berg’s lawsuit to force Barack Obama to produce a certified copy of his original birth certificate. On Sept. 24 the DNC filed a motion to dismiss the Berg action, which sent Berg scrambling to file a response, which was filed on Sept. 29, providing the date and material which led to my confusion that the order had been signed. Accept my mea culpas. The moment I realized the error I called News With Views and had the article pulled, and posted a recant on my website as well. Here is the most current information on the case, taken from court documents. — Jon Christian Ryter

On September 29, 2008 Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg, filed a response to a motion to dismiss by defendant Barack Obama who was joined in his effort to quash Berg’s lawsuit by the Democratic National Committee, claiming it has no standing to proceed. Berg argued in the brief response that he has provided the precedents which establish the standing and petitioned US District Court Judge R. Barclay Surrick of the Eastern District of Pennsylvania to pursue the case. In his Sept. 29 filing, Berg said: “Plaintiff served discovery in way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents, on Defendants on September 15, 2008 and has attempted to obtain verification of Obama’s eligibility through subpoenas to the government entities and the hospital’s in Hawaii. To date, Plaintiffs and two of (2) the locations, which subpoenas were served upon, refused to honor the subpoenas.

“For the above aforementioned reasons, Plaintiff respectfully request Defendants and the Democratic National Committee’s Motion to Dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) be denied and order immediate discovery (the unsigned order requiring Obama to produce…” within three (3) days{

The judge ordered, “Having reviewed the motion and plaintiff’s opposition to said motion and for good cause shown, it is hereby ordered that the motion to dismiss pursuant to F.R.C.P. 12(b)(1) and 12(b)(6) is denied. It is further order of this court that the following discovery is to be turned over to plaintiff within three (3) days.

1. Obama’s “vault” version (certified copy of his “original” long version) birth certificate; and 2. a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship; 3. a certified copy of Obama’s oath of allegiance.”

The certified copy of the citizen of the world’s “oath of allegiance” to the United Sates is a document attesting to the fact that the newly “naturalized” citizen (usually an immigrant who has just been granted citizenship) or for native born Americans who have forfeited or otherwise surrendered their citizenship, and have requested reinstatement at their majority, usually 18, has sworn allegiance to the United States and its Constitution.”

October surprise? 10 Responses

1.

Larry Sheldon

October 8th, 2008 at 9:41 am 1

I have not bothered to check it again this morning, but for every previous time I have seen this, I have checked, and found:

The only evidence for this “order” is the draft of the desired order in Berg’s filing.

I have not found court records of a signed and recorded order.

There is enough wrong with Obama in the stuff Obama has said in recent times. We don’t need this crap that is so easy to shoot down. 2.

clarice

October 8th, 2008 at 9:44 am 2

DITTO–This is the Lie that will not die! 3.

Larry Sheldon

October 8th, 2008 at 11:53 am 3

Just by way of comparison, here is what ab order looks like.

Note date, signature, and absence of other matrerial in the PDF 4.

Larry Sheldon

October 8th, 2008 at 11:53 am 4

Ooops. (He forgot the link)

link

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-15   0:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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