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Title: Judge denies stay, orders discovery of Obama's birth certificates
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Published: Oct 9, 2008
Author: Starwind
Post Date: 2008-10-09 12:18:48 by Starwind
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Views: 5921
Comments: 101

Follow it free at BERG v. OBAMA et al (Justia) (not updated yet)

Follow it via Pacer at United States District Court Eastern District of Pennsylvania (Philadelphia) CIVIL DOCKET FOR CASE #: 2:08-cv-04083-RBS (current as of this AM)

This AM, Judge R. Barclay Surrick, J. ordered (document #18):

ORDERED and DECREED as follows:

1. Defendants Motion for Protective Order Staying Discovery pending the Court's Decision on Defendants dispositive Motion is DENIED;
2. Defendants are hereby ORDERED to Answer Plaintiff's Discovery Requests by way of Admissions and Request for Production of Documents by October 15, 2008.

Poster Comment:

This could be a game changer.

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#2. To: Starwind (#0)

It is rather odd someone would have a problem with producing their birth certificate.

It does seem as tho if one is running for President they would understand the laws.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-09   12:34:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

It is rather odd someone would have a problem with producing their birth certificate.

True. I know exactly where mine is and could provide it within hours if necessary.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   12:45:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I know exactly where mine is and could provide it within hours if necessary.

I couldn't provide mine if my very life depended on it.

Lod  posted on  2008-10-09   12:54:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I couldn't provide mine if my very life depended on it.

What, you a wetback or something? ;^)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-12   21:39:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Another 'hat tip' to the "October Surprise" video:

Does Barack Obama Meet the Qualifications to be President of the USA?

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-13   13:27:23 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's the first report I've seen that is now aware Obama has been ordered to produce his birth certificate, etc.:

Unconvinced Obama's a citizen

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   9:52:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Here's some Washington Times commentary wherein the reader responses are more current than the 'commentariat':
GAFFNEY: The jihadist vote

And a summation from Fox News in Toledo Ohio but still seems unaware the Court has Ordered discovery:
Former UT law grad sues Obama, questions citizenship

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   10:00:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

By: Tunes59 "Curiously, Mr. Obama has, to date, failed to provide an authentic birth certificate which could clear up the matter"

I find this slightly more than curious! I think this will cause a Constitutional crisis if not resolved before the election. Every American citizen needs to call on Mr. Obama to prove his Constitutional qualifications.

So far Mr. Obama has refused to produce the documents and is trying to fight the court order to produce the documents. Any American should be able to prove citizenship in less than a day. Why can’t Mr. Obama?

what constitution? /sarcasm

if this is true, those who selected obama knew it and also knew that it wouldn't matter. the PTB are proving they can place anyone they want for whatever purpose. we shall soon see what that purpose is.

christine  posted on  2008-10-14   10:43:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

if this is true, those who selected obama knew it and also knew that it wouldn't matter.

Actually, I've wondered what they knew and when they knew it. I've wondered how much Obama even knew. He may have believed, uncritically, most of his life that his citizenship status was no different than anyone elses. When he ran for national office, his ambiguous status was overlooked. The FEC is to blame for not rigorously enforcing and publicizing eligibility.

So when he considered the presidency and was nominated, his eligibility may have been overlooked again and assumed by most, except Hillary who I would expect knew and is using the info as a well-played trump card.

By the time it was questioned, the die had been cast and was too late to back out - too much egg on too many faces - and he is trying to bluff/delay his way into having his eligibility ignored, again.

I'm confident that Obama knew he had a problem not later than when the issue first surfaced, at which point I'm sure he asked family members where he was actually born and where was the proof. He's been doing damage control ever since.

I've also wondered, if his citizenship status is disproven, what might the consequences be for any legislation and procedural votes wherein the difference was one vote - arguably his illegitimate vote - leading to the Mother of all Mulligans.

Starwind  posted on  2008-10-14   11:07:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Except he was born in Hawai'i and this game being played on his birth place is just one of many false E mail spread rumors that have no point but character assasination. This is gaining no traction because it is a falsehood, pure and simple.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   11:13:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Except he was born in Hawai'i

This was never proven.

Obama said he was born in two-different Hawaii hospitals.

Obama's Grandmother said he was born in Kenya.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   12:42:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And you know, he was born in Hawai'i. And I don't give a shit about this circle jerk you all are doing in here with one of many Swift Boat style liefests about Barack Obama.

Stop bothering me with it.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   20:21:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

And you know, he was born in Hawai'i. And I don't give a shit about this circle jerk you all are doing in here with one of many Swift Boat style liefests about Barack Obama.

Stop bothering me with it.

What is Obama Hiding?

Why won't he present his documents?

America does not need another "sneaky" president.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   23:33:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you can't get a clue, buy a vowel.

Do you fucking think that by spamming me I am going to suddenly take nonsense seriously?

No. Now your delusions and myopia are your problem, you deal with it, I cannot help you.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:48:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

If you can't get a clue, buy a vowel.

The heart of Berg’s lawsuit claims three things.

1. Senator Obama is not a naturalized citizen and/or

2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia and/or

3. Has dual or conflicting national loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Senator Obama is not a naturalized citizen and/or 2. Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia and/or 3. Has dual or conflicting national loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.

Berg alleges Obama’s Hawaiian birth certificate from the state of Hawaii is a forgery per three independent document forensic experts. He alleges Obama was born in Kenya as his mother (Stanley Ann Dunham, aged 18) traveled there with her husband, Barack Obama, a Kenyan national, but was prevented from flying back to Hawaii because of the late stage of her pregnancy. [Wiki trivia: Obama, Sr. and Dunham married in 1961 while Obama, Sr. was still married to his first wife from Kenya, whom he never divorced. Obama, Sr. is dead now, but divorced from Dunham in 1964. So the Barackcuda is literally a son of a bigamist.] Berg claims Obama's own paternal grandmother, half-brother and half-sister have also claimed the same; that Barack was born in Kenya and his mother subsequently flew to Hawaii to register the birth. If Obama was truly born in Kenya, Berg claims, the contemporary laws hold that U.S. citizenship may only pass to a child born overseas to a U.S. citizen parent and non-citizen parent if the former was at least 19 years of age. As Ms. Dunham was too young, therefore citizenship could not legally be passed on to him. Therefore Obama could not be registered as a "natural born" citizen and would therefore be ineligible to seek the presidency pursuant to Article II, Section 1 of the United States Constitution.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-14   23:51:04 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Spam scrollby. Didn't read it of course, but I am amused by your anal behavior, Perry Mason.

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-14   23:56:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Didn't read it of course.

You probably wouldn't understand it.

TwentyTwelve  posted on  2008-10-15   0:00:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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