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Title: Secret Service questions Lufkin woman over alleged Obama threat (Obama = ghetto Hitler)
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Houston Chronicle
URL Source: http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/6043299.html
Published: Oct 6, 2008
Author: Jessics Savage
Post Date: 2008-10-09 13:17:07 by X-15
Keywords: None
Views: 190
Comments: 12
LUFKIN — A Lufkin woman received a surprise visit from the Secret Service last week because of a “death threat” comment she reportedly made about Sen. Barack Obama to a campaign volunteer asking for her support of the presidential candidate. Two federal agents arrived at Jessica Hughes’ home Thursday to ask her if she said, “I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor.” Hughes said her words were deliberately twisted by a volunteer who was apparently unhappy Hughes was rude during a phone conversation. The Lufkin mother, a Republican, said she received a call on her cellphone Wednesday from a woman with the Obama Volunteers of Texarkana. “She asked if I was an Obama supporter, to which I replied, ‘No, I don’t support him. Your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the state Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time.’ (And then) I hung up.” Hughes is referring to a “born alive” Illinois bill that did not pass in the Illinois state Senate in 2005 and had previously been opposed by Obama because he said it undermined Roe v. Wade, according to FactCheck.org, a non-partisan organization. A federal version of the bill, which Obama said he would have supported, passed by unanimous consent and was signed into law by President Bush in 2002. Obama Campaign Communications for Texas director Josh Taylor declined to comment Monday, referring the matter to the Secret Service, which he said is conducting an investigation. A message left with a Secret Service agent in Houston was not immediately returned. Hughes said she was surprised to see two Secret Service agents at her door, and upset to learn that the conversation she had with the volunteer apparently had not been recorded. “I find it hard to believe that (campaign volunteers) don’t tape these calls. They call people unsolicited and they aren’t monitoring the calls or recording them? I think that is absolutely ridiculous,” she said. “I mean, how often must this happen - that someone is rude to a volunteer that they don’t want to talk to?” Hughes said she wants to file a countercomplaint against the volunteer. “She has made a charge that will follow me the rest of my life,” she said. “I find that repugnant and violating - that some person who got her undies in a bundle because she didn’t like what I had to say.” Poster's comment: here's the better version of the story: messageboards.aol.com/aol...true&filterUnhidden=false Dear Friends: We have had some interesting things going on on our street this week but this "takes the cake". The election is less than a month away - people need to be aware of this information of the tactics that have been used this week on my neighbor. She is not a 'mental case nor political activist' just your everyday young Mom with small children and a husband out of the military. If this is the kind of "change" Mr. Obama is referring to, we are definitely in for more than what has met the eye. What has happened here is not only appalling but frightening to think we may no longer have the freedom to speak against "the powers that be" without the Secret Service showing up at your door. Keeping in mind, there is no taped conversation - simply a disgruntled volunteer who was not getting the response she was looking for. Jessica has contacted several politicians and news organizations - some who have told her "this is out of my jurisdiction". Pleeeze! Enough is enough - I for one will stand behind this young woman and notify every person I can possibly think of to make people aware of this travesty! I hope you will forward this on as well to as many people as you possibly can - especially to our elected officials and news organizations. Feel free to email me for verification. Connie On Wednesday the 1st of October I received a call on my cell while in the car with my husband. It was a woman who identified herself as calling from the Obama Campaign. The phone # she called from was 903-798-6020 which lists as "Obama Volunteers of Texarkana" (Texas). She asked if I was an Obama supporter to which I replied: "No, I don't support him, your guy is a socialist who voted four times in the State Senate to let little babies die in hospital closets; I think you should find something better to do with your time." I hung up. Thursday, October 2, I answered the front door to find the Secret Service. Immediately I thought of the call and was furious that apparently you are not allowed to call Obama a Socialist without the Secret Service coming to investigate. Instead, they asked me about the following comment, relayed by the Obama Volunteer of Texarkana who called me, unsolicited on my cell phone: "I will never support Obama and he will wind up dead on a hospital floor." My husband laughed and told them No, she called him a socialist but she never said a word about him dying. I gave them my actual quote. The woman asked insolently Oh? Well why would she make that up? I replied that I supposed she wasnt happy about what I said about her candidate and the Agent said Thats right, you were rude! The last time I checked being rude wasnt a crime in America. Luckily the big file they had gathered on me didn't indicate mental instability or a past life of stalking/crime, however they did want to know how I felt about Obama. That was my limit. I told the Agent in no uncertain terms that my thoughts were not pertinent to their investigation, that this was America and the last time I checked I was allowed to think whatever I wanted without being questioned by the Secret Service. In fact, even if I had said what she claimed, that isn't a threat. I told them (again) and my husband verified that the statement reported by Obama's volunteer was a lie. I asked them if there was a tape of the call and they said no. I said, "So on the word of a ticked off Obama supporter you are on my porch with no other evidence and you want to question me about my THOUGHTS!?" They informed me that there was no evidence she was an Obama supportersomeone calling from his campaignare you kidding? I was not allowed to know the name of my accuser at which point they informed me that it wasn't like I was in a court of law, YET, as if this was a good thing. I recognized this as a veiled threat. I told them I would happily go to court since I did nothing wrong and at least then my accuser would have to face me rather than sending the thought police to my house. They then said they were trying to do me a favor, that they came to me first before embarrassing you by going to all your neighbors and family, another threat? I told them to be my guest and talk to whomever they wanted but they werent going to investigate my thoughts on my porch. They also informed me that it would be easier if the next time a supporter calls me I just say "Yeah sure count me in, or just hang up" apparently so she won't get her undies in a bundle and give them more useless trips. Yeah right. I said "Look, someone calls me unsolicited on my cell phone to ask me to support their candidate and I can't tell them why I don't?" I said I was sorry they made a wasted trip but if they had a problem with some made up lie they needed to go talk to her about it because it wasn't my fault they had to drive from Houston for nothing. At one point I went inside and got a notepad to record their badge numbers and they refused to show me their badges. They had done the quick flip when they arrived. I asked for a card and the female Agent refused to give me one stating Youre not going to get a card. The male Agent gave me a card and told me I could contact Houston with any questions. The fact that the volunteer lied, the fact that the Secret Service came to my house to question me about my thoughts and feelings and threaten to embarrass me to my neighbors and go to court if I didnt cooperate is not really the tragedy here. Because that girl on the phone doesnt have the pull to send the Secret Service to my home. Someone high in the ranks of a campaign working for a man who may be the next President of the United States of America felt comfortable bringing the force of the Federal Government to bear on a private citizen on nothing but the word of a partisan volunteer. I want to file a counter complaint that false charges were made, that a false report was given to a peace officer. The Secret Service told me I cannot because they will protect the identity of the complainant. I also want the file they have on me destroyed and I want to know that my phone isnt tapped, et cetera. I am hearing a lot of Out of my Jurisdiction. Do I also hear jackboots?
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#1. To: X-15 (#0)
Wait until we have a "national emergency", the SS troops will be everywhere.
Strange things happen behind the 'Piney Curtain.'
"Chust sign zie loyalty oath citizen, and chut up abhout your rights. You haf no rights you haf the right to chut up and obey your masters."
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Indeed, the difference between Texas and East Texas is startling. I can move between both worlds comfortably, it's an acquired art ;-)
While employed by Fed gubmint, learned early on that other agencies "cooperated" only to the extent they were forced to. A worthless lot.
Nip it in the bud. ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Illegals do it well, too. Ha! ;-)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Only in this case, it would be done in ebonics.
A worthless lot. It's the "fiefdom" mindset. Since they have no way to earn more and independently expand they are fighting to continue to justify their own existence. Cooperation with another agency boosts the other agency and does nothing to expand "their" fiefdom and may put their budget at risk by making the other look good. Been there seen that.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Nip it in the bud. ;-) yessssssssssssssss. Der ist no point in letting die lower orders think they haf a right to speak and move freely. Force isss the only think thhey hunderstand. They must "learn their place".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Only in this case, it would be done in ebonics. "Yo dood sign the mutherfuckin' paper and close yar' mutherfuckin' hole or were bang yer head off the bricks."
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Yes, my brother lives outside the Nac, and he can tell some really strange stories of what goes on there...
#2. To: X-15 (#0)
#3. To: Cynicom (#1)
#4. To: lodwick (#2)
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#5. To: Original_Intent (#3)
#6. To: Original_Intent (#3)
"Chust sign zie loyalty oath citizen, and chut up abhout your rights. You haf no rights you haf the right to chut up and obey your masters."
#7. To: X-15 (#4)
I can move between both worlds comfortably, it's an acquired art ;-)
#8. To: Original_Intent (#3)
"Chust sign zie loyalty oath citizen, and chut up abhout your rights. You haf no rights you haf the right to chut up and obey your masters."
#9. To: Cynicom (#5)
While employed by Fed gubmint, learned early on that other agencies "cooperated" only to the extent they were forced to.
#10. To: Rotara (#6)
"Chust sign zie loyalty oath citizen, and chut up abhout your rights. You haf no rights you haf the right to chut up and obey your masters."
#11. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#8)
"Chust sign zie loyalty oath citizen, and chut up abhout your rights. You haf no rights you haf the right to chut up and obey your masters."
#12. To: X-15 (#4)
Indeed, the difference between Texas and East Texas is startling.
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