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Title: freepers demonstrating thier vast knowledge of the constitution
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2101605/posts
Published: Oct 9, 2008
Author: muaballef
Post Date: 2008-10-09 17:19:13 by freepatriot32
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i was lurking around freerepublic earlier and saw this story about how hard it is for college studentsto register to vote and among the usuall "conservative" responces like i dont want college students voting and voting should be restricted i came across this little gem by a "conservative" legal scholar that is going to vote this election see if you can figure out whats wrong with this statement

To: 2ndDivisionVet Good! I’ve been thinking lately that the voting age should be raised to 30 anyway. 18 made sense back when 18-year-olds had already been productive citizens for a few years. I don’t think our founding fathers had 27-year old idiots who live with their parents, smoking dope in the basement and playing Xbox, in mind when they set the age at 18...

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#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

see if you can figure out whats wrong with this statement

I don’t think our founding fathers had 27-year old idiots who live with their parents, smoking dope in the basement and playing Xbox, in mind when they set the age at 18...

The 26th Amendment lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 in 1971.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   17:32:17 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Given that the 18-21 year old set has demonstrated the capacity of being unable to prevent the government and the older voters from removing their right to consume alcohol while remaining defined as "adults", and to overwhelmingly vote for people and subjects which make them "feel good", I'm not impressed with their "right to vote".

In general, I'm feeling that the right to vote needs to be intrinsically tied to not receiving government largess or being involved in it. I.e. if you are currently on any type of dole (from welfare to corporate) you don't get to vote. The military would retain it, but contractors would lose it for the duration of contracts. Anything that would prompt you to vote for someone who'd subsequently parasitize the body politic to your benefit would revoke the right for the duration. Unless the FED was abolished, Bankers and employees would lose the right unless they were unaffiliated with the FED and uninsured by a government agency.

I'm sure I could grind out paragraphs of minutia on this, but you get the general idea... I can't think of any other means to separate the politicians from those they promise to give things in return for votes...

Axenolith  posted on  2008-10-09   19:18:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I'm sure I could grind out paragraphs of minutia on this, but you get the general idea... I can't think of any other means to separate the politicians from those they promise to give things in return for votes...

I'm sure you've heard this one before.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   19:26:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Yup!

I've mentioned it to others here, Guy Odems books Mothers, Leadership, and Success and America's Man on Horseback, A Fable? are good reads, the first from an analytical standpoint of how this stuff gets underway and the latter a sort of "what if" with a line on how a future "strong leader" who's also a patriot can bring things under control with an eye on an eventual return to the Constitution and Representative government.

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