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Title: freepers demonstrating thier vast knowledge of the constitution
Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/
URL Source: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2101605/posts
Published: Oct 9, 2008
Author: muaballef
Post Date: 2008-10-09 17:19:13 by freepatriot32
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Keywords: freerepublic, constitutional scholars, yes hes voting
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Comments: 21

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i was lurking around freerepublic earlier and saw this story about how hard it is for college studentsto register to vote and among the usuall "conservative" responces like i dont want college students voting and voting should be restricted i came across this little gem by a "conservative" legal scholar that is going to vote this election see if you can figure out whats wrong with this statement

To: 2ndDivisionVet Good! I’ve been thinking lately that the voting age should be raised to 30 anyway. 18 made sense back when 18-year-olds had already been productive citizens for a few years. I don’t think our founding fathers had 27-year old idiots who live with their parents, smoking dope in the basement and playing Xbox, in mind when they set the age at 18...

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#1. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

when they set the age at 18...

The sad thing is.... that man was serious! And, he went to war and at least tried to kill people to enforce his view of the world! Well, anyway, his masters views of the world.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-10-09   17:24:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

I once wrote an article mocking Freepers, someone posted it there, and the hatemails I got from them were mostly illiterate.

The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.

Turtle  posted on  2008-10-09   17:27:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Turtle (#2) (Edited)

do you have a link to that article sounds likea good one :-D

btw love your tagline

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freepatriot32  posted on  2008-10-09   17:29:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

The Freepers who emphasized the States' authority over most legal aspects of voting were correct. Wyoming gave women the vote before the Constitution was amended making womens' suffrage the norm nationwide. The Founding Fathers did not set the voting age at 18, either.

roughrider  posted on  2008-10-09   17:32:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

see if you can figure out whats wrong with this statement

I don’t think our founding fathers had 27-year old idiots who live with their parents, smoking dope in the basement and playing Xbox, in mind when they set the age at 18...

The 26th Amendment lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 in 1971.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   17:32:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: freepatriot32 (#0) (Edited)

why anyone would vote in this selection is beyond me. nether the black bastard nor the nutbar are worth the time, effort or gas.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-09   17:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Turtle (#2)

I once wrote an article mocking Freepers, someone posted it there, and the hatemails I got from them were mostly illiterate.

Most of the posts in Freepland look like they've been written by borderline mental retardates, functional illiterates, or drunks. The rest are just cut and paste talking points from Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, or Mike Savage.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-09   17:43:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: richard9151, freepatriot32 (#1)

when they set the age at 18...

The sad thing is.... that man was serious! And, he went to war and at least tried to kill people to enforce his view of the world! Well, anyway, his masters views of the world.

But then we know that Freeptard Rezpublik is populated by mouth breathing, drooling, slack jawed "Morans" who think Jorge Bushco is a "Great Preznit" who'll be remembered as one of the greats - rather than the reality that he is the worst and most corrupt illegally enthroned pResident in the sad history of this Republic.

Any association between Fraud Rezpublik and reality is purely coincidental.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-09   17:57:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)

Any association between Fraud Rezpublik and reality is purely coincidental.

lololololol!!!!!!!!!

AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/NAACP/FEDERAL RESERVE/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA & HOLLYWOOD: Oh, those Islamofascists.

wbales  posted on  2008-10-09   18:00:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: duckhunter (#5)

The 26th Amendment lowered the voting age from 21 to 18 in 1971.

Where was it set to 21 in the Constitution?

States used to set their own voting regulations. That's how a Republic worked before the Feds took it over.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-10-09   18:40:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: duckhunter (#5)

Until that date, I think that some states had the minimum age at 21, others at 18. The Constitutional amendment basically mandated it at 18 for every state.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-09   18:43:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: mirage (#10)

Where was it set to 21 in the Constitution?

States used to set their own voting regulations. That's how a Republic worked before the Feds took it over.

I mis-spoke. The 26th just made the voting age uniform for all states.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   18:57:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rupert_Pupkin, mirage (#11)

The Constitutional amendment basically mandated it at 18 for every state.

What he said.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   18:57:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

why anyone would vote in this selection is beyond me. nether the black bastard nor the nutbar are worth the time, effort or gas.

Fact.

In addition, nobody else we vote for can or will win. Save the gas money and purchase more ammo for when TSHTF and riots break out.

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IndieTX  posted on  2008-10-09   19:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: duckhunter (#5)

Given that the 18-21 year old set has demonstrated the capacity of being unable to prevent the government and the older voters from removing their right to consume alcohol while remaining defined as "adults", and to overwhelmingly vote for people and subjects which make them "feel good", I'm not impressed with their "right to vote".

In general, I'm feeling that the right to vote needs to be intrinsically tied to not receiving government largess or being involved in it. I.e. if you are currently on any type of dole (from welfare to corporate) you don't get to vote. The military would retain it, but contractors would lose it for the duration of contracts. Anything that would prompt you to vote for someone who'd subsequently parasitize the body politic to your benefit would revoke the right for the duration. Unless the FED was abolished, Bankers and employees would lose the right unless they were unaffiliated with the FED and uninsured by a government agency.

I'm sure I could grind out paragraphs of minutia on this, but you get the general idea... I can't think of any other means to separate the politicians from those they promise to give things in return for votes...

Bring on the Depression. Bring it the F*** ON! If digging ditches and eating beans for a few years is what it takes for me to see some worthless sacks of crap bankers and politicians living in sack cloth and being spat upon by my fellow Americans well... where's my shovel?!?!

Axenolith  posted on  2008-10-09   19:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Axenolith (#15)

I'm sure I could grind out paragraphs of minutia on this, but you get the general idea... I can't think of any other means to separate the politicians from those they promise to give things in return for votes...

I'm sure you've heard this one before.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years.

duckhunter  posted on  2008-10-09   19:26:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

why anyone would vote in this selection is beyond me. nether the black bastard nor the nutbar are worth the time, effort or gas.

Daz rat!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-09   20:00:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: James Deffenbach, IndieTX, all (#17) (Edited)

In addition, nobody else we vote for can or will win. Save the gas money and purchase more ammo for when TSHTF and riots break out.

We have NO representation. The sooner our side realizes that the quicker we can prepare to react as needed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-09   20:06:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: freepatriot32 (#0)

I don’t think our founding fathers had 27-year old idiots who live with their parents, smoking dope in the basement and playing Xbox, in mind when they set the age at 18...

Well, first off, if the founders didn't occasionally pipe a bit of weed themselves, they still found time to write the Declaration of Independence on some.

Second, housing norms may well have had families living much more closely back then.

Pinguinite  posted on  2008-10-09   20:07:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Jethro Tull (#18)

We have NO representation. The sooner our side realizes that the quicker we can prepare to react as needed.

You got that right. Some on "our side" already know and the rest will know before too long I suspect. I just hope there is time enough to do something about it when they catch on.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

James Deffenbach  posted on  2008-10-09   20:20:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: duckhunter (#16)

Yup!

I've mentioned it to others here, Guy Odems books Mothers, Leadership, and Success and America's Man on Horseback, A Fable? are good reads, the first from an analytical standpoint of how this stuff gets underway and the latter a sort of "what if" with a line on how a future "strong leader" who's also a patriot can bring things under control with an eye on an eventual return to the Constitution and Representative government.

Bring on the Depression. Bring it the F*** ON! If digging ditches and eating beans for a few years is what it takes for me to see some worthless sacks of crap bankers and politicians living in sack cloth and being spat upon by my fellow Americans well... where's my shovel?!?!

Axenolith  posted on  2008-10-10   2:30:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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