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Title: GOP bill would force illegal aliens to leave [another amnesty plan]
Source: Seattle PI
URL Source: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/233283_border20.html
Published: Jul 20, 2005
Author: PATRINA A. BOSTIC
Post Date: 2005-07-20 16:21:49 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: [another, illegal, amnesty
Views: 722
Comments: 41

GOP bill would force illegal aliens to leave

By PATRINA A. BOSTIC
COX NEWS SERVICE

WASHINGTON -- Two border-state Republican senators proposed legislation yesterday that would require every illegal immigrant -- estimated at 10 million -- to leave the United States and return to the nation they came from within five years.

The bill, by Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Jon Kyl of Arizona, would establish temporary work permits renewable for up to six years and would require employers to provide health insurance to workers. It also calls for tougher border security and law enforcement measures.

Undocumented immigrants would be required to depart the United States voluntarily and re-enter through legal channels, by applying for permanent residency or a temporary work permit.

"We have promised, as part of this bill, to remove the obstacles to the qualifying individuals to re-enter the country and to establish themselves legally," Cornyn told reporters. He said most of the immigrants would "realize that we really are serious, not just about forcing them to leave the country, but we're serious about opening legal channels so that people who want to work and who are needed by the American economy can work and live in the United States, that we will provide them a path to do so."

The measure, which the senators hope to bring to a full vote in the fall, contrasts with the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill introduced in May that would pave the way for illegal immigrants already in the United States to obtain legal employment status and citizenship.

John Keeley, director of communications for the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates stricter immigration controls, said the Cornyn and Kyl bill gives illegal immigrants too much time to leave the country.

"One level of concern is that it gives illegal immigrants five years to leave the country. We would have preferred to see the lawmakers support a stricter spirit of enforcement, as opposed to this generous leeway for lawbreaking. Five years is a long period of time during which a lot can happen politically for this population."


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This is nothing but a veiled shot at amnesty for the criminals.

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#7. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

Two border-state Republican senators proposed legislation yesterday that would require every illegal immigrant -- estimated at 10 million -- to leave the United States and return to the nation they came from within five years.

how stupid do they think we are?

christine  posted on  2005-07-20   21:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#7)

how stupid do they think we are?

Very stupid.The constant re-election of these Bozo's is proof positive.

griper  posted on  2005-07-20   22:06:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: griper (#9)

I hate to say this, but we need to stop and take a big breath here.

Many of us are awakening to the propostion that there is a coming conflict - perhaps a great and protracted one - over resources & energy.

God help us if our neighbors cannot be counted upon as friends.

Travel around a modern European city like Antwerp and see how Muslim immigrants crowd former Flemish nieghborhoods and how resistant they are to assimilation.

I would MUCH, MUCH rather have to deal with the immigration problem that we have in our country than the one the French, the Germans, the Dutch or the Belgian are saddled with.

Mexicans are by and large hard-working, appreciate the generally law-and-order society that we represent, where day-to-day corruption is rare, and where they get a fair break most of the time. They are mostly Catholic and celebrate the same cultural virtues that we do. On average they are less criminally inclined than most of our poor white and black folks.

Their homeland also possesses large reserves of that stuff we burn in our SUV's.

randge  posted on  2005-07-20   22:44:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: randge (#10)

God help us if our neighbors cannot be counted upon as friends.

Travel around a modern European city like Antwerp and see how Muslim immigrants crowd former Flemish nieghborhoods and how resistant they are to assimilation.

I would MUCH, MUCH rather have to deal with the immigration problem that we have in our country than the one the French, the Germans, the Dutch or the Belgian are saddled with.

Mexicans are by and large hard-working, appreciate the generally law-and-order society that we represent, where day-to-day corruption is rare, and where they get a fair break most of the time. They are mostly Catholic and celebrate the same cultural virtues that we do. On average they are less criminally inclined than most of our poor white and black folks.

100% bullshit.

Not only that but a tired and pathetic line meant to soften any defense of what's left of Western Civilization. Only someone with an agenda would pull that shit.

Who gives a flying rat-fuck if they are Catholic, Lutheran or Moonie? They are making a mockery of US domestic law and making me a second class citizen. They get free emergency room care, can open a bank account without a SSN and drive without car insurance.

This doesn't relate to what France or Germany are going through, but you seem to want to soften us with that "relativitism" also.

Tell you what, Action, they are showing up with the government and big businesses explicit consent to suck on the public teat (they are a net drain on services) when real Americans can't pay their fucking health care costs.

And I know personally how they stare down Gringos on the street and how their prone to violence so don't piss down my back and say it's fucking raining. We're past the point where you can bullshit us with these soothing falsehoods. No, we've seen the shit ourselves.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-07-20   22:59:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Dude Lebowski (#11)

Amen to what you said.

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-07-20   23:08:29 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#12)

Amen to what you said.

Thanks man. We're past the point of bullshitting. We know the score.

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-07-20   23:19:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Dude Lebowski (#15)

Thanks man. We're past the point of bullshitting. We know the score.

I ain't no man, but you are quite welcome anyway!

And even though I do not live in a border state - I KNOW the score. The last time I was in our little local ER I had a four hour wait because it was filled to overflowing with mexicans who did not speak english and they had no interpreter on hand (welcome to SW Ohio).

On the other hand - the INS did recently bust ABX for employing over 300 undocumented illegal aliens and made ABX fire them. So I guess at least for once, a goverment agency did something right (well partially - the newly jobless still live here and have their own Mexican Staffing Agency).

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-07-20   23:25:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#16)

I went shopping today and next to me were a group of men from some French speaking African country.. speaking French.. a group of Mexicans speaking Spanish and a family from some oriental country speaking some oriental language.. I felt like I was in 3rd world hell.. it was SO strange..

Zipporah  posted on  2005-07-20   23:31:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Zipporah (#19)

And we wonder why the employment prospects in our area reeks????

CAPPSMADNESS  posted on  2005-07-20   23:32:35 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#22. To: CAPPSMADNESS (#20)

Tell me about it.

Zipporah  posted on  2005-07-20 23:38:26 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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