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Title: GOP bill would force illegal aliens to leave [another amnesty plan]
Source: Seattle PI
URL Source: http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/233283_border20.html
Published: Jul 20, 2005
Author: PATRINA A. BOSTIC
Post Date: 2005-07-20 16:21:49 by Mr Nuke Buzzcut
Ping List: *The Border*
Keywords: [another, illegal, amnesty
Views: 731
Comments: 41

GOP bill would force illegal aliens to leave

By PATRINA A. BOSTIC
COX NEWS SERVICE

WASHINGTON -- Two border-state Republican senators proposed legislation yesterday that would require every illegal immigrant -- estimated at 10 million -- to leave the United States and return to the nation they came from within five years.

The bill, by Sens. John Cornyn of Texas and Jon Kyl of Arizona, would establish temporary work permits renewable for up to six years and would require employers to provide health insurance to workers. It also calls for tougher border security and law enforcement measures.

Undocumented immigrants would be required to depart the United States voluntarily and re-enter through legal channels, by applying for permanent residency or a temporary work permit.

"We have promised, as part of this bill, to remove the obstacles to the qualifying individuals to re-enter the country and to establish themselves legally," Cornyn told reporters. He said most of the immigrants would "realize that we really are serious, not just about forcing them to leave the country, but we're serious about opening legal channels so that people who want to work and who are needed by the American economy can work and live in the United States, that we will provide them a path to do so."

The measure, which the senators hope to bring to a full vote in the fall, contrasts with the McCain-Kennedy immigration bill introduced in May that would pave the way for illegal immigrants already in the United States to obtain legal employment status and citizenship.

John Keeley, director of communications for the Center for Immigration Studies, a Washington, D.C.-based group that advocates stricter immigration controls, said the Cornyn and Kyl bill gives illegal immigrants too much time to leave the country.

"One level of concern is that it gives illegal immigrants five years to leave the country. We would have preferred to see the lawmakers support a stricter spirit of enforcement, as opposed to this generous leeway for lawbreaking. Five years is a long period of time during which a lot can happen politically for this population."


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This is nothing but a veiled shot at amnesty for the criminals.

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#7. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#0)

Two border-state Republican senators proposed legislation yesterday that would require every illegal immigrant -- estimated at 10 million -- to leave the United States and return to the nation they came from within five years.

how stupid do they think we are?

christine  posted on  2005-07-20   21:44:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#7)

how stupid do they think we are?

Very stupid.The constant re-election of these Bozo's is proof positive.

griper  posted on  2005-07-20   22:06:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: griper (#9)

I hate to say this, but we need to stop and take a big breath here.

Many of us are awakening to the propostion that there is a coming conflict - perhaps a great and protracted one - over resources & energy.

God help us if our neighbors cannot be counted upon as friends.

Travel around a modern European city like Antwerp and see how Muslim immigrants crowd former Flemish nieghborhoods and how resistant they are to assimilation.

I would MUCH, MUCH rather have to deal with the immigration problem that we have in our country than the one the French, the Germans, the Dutch or the Belgian are saddled with.

Mexicans are by and large hard-working, appreciate the generally law-and-order society that we represent, where day-to-day corruption is rare, and where they get a fair break most of the time. They are mostly Catholic and celebrate the same cultural virtues that we do. On average they are less criminally inclined than most of our poor white and black folks.

Their homeland also possesses large reserves of that stuff we burn in our SUV's.

randge  posted on  2005-07-20   22:44:57 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: randge (#10)

Their homeland also possesses large reserves of that stuff we burn in our SUV's.

Another f**king lie. How can there be an abundance of crude when PEMEX uses 1.2 billion cubic feet a day of nitrogen for their oil extractions? link

Did you know that? No you didn't because you're an asshole and you get your jollies from insulting our intelligence.

Matter fact, after three readings of your post in slackjawed amazement I had to search for your prior posts since I don't recognize you. I figured you were a banned Freeper or AssclownPosse member. Looks like you don't post much more than 3 or so lines on average and usually don't come out too strongly on a position.

Except this one.

I know the aCP brags about having a few active members here. I wonder if you aren't one of them?

Dude Lebowski  posted on  2005-07-20   23:18:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Dude Lebowski (#14)

I got other shit to do besides post here, but I'll give it one more try.

I am no communist. I celebrate the fall of every red regime. I hope that Mr. Castro chokes on his own vomit.

However, my point was that we cannot continue to run a game on Latin America in the way that our ancestors have. The worst thing that we do is act toward them with disrespect. The peoples of that region have been punished for their leadership in the same way that the Iraqi people have, and I hate to say, the way that we well might some day be if we are not careful. A lot of shit has been done in our name, and we have spent a grievous amount of political, not to mention financial, capital in the past few years.

In my time working in Mexico, I've seen that Mexicans are quite conscious of the history of our machinations in their neighborhood - at least among the educated - but while I was there, I heard no word of hostility toward me on account of my where I come from, and I found people to be courteous and hospitable.

And, I do know where I come from, and I do hallow the blood of patriots that made this country what it is just as I abhor the cabal that has landed us in the troubles that we are currently in. They have subjugated us and subjected us to an invasion of perhaps 10 million aliens, and left us no alternatives but wholesale forced repatriation or surrender. Yes, by right, all illegal aliens should be put on buses and be sent home. That would cause a circus that our enemies would use gleefully against us. Blame our masters, "left" and "right" who have been carefully cultivating political power over the last century and who have put us in this spot. However, don't hate those that come here for the same reasons that many - most - of our ancestors did. Few of them came here with a silver spoon in their mouths.

What we see of Mexicans are the poor and the desperate that make it across our borders. Certainly that skews our image of Mexico. I heard a woman speak last year who has a ranch on the Texas-Mexico border and who was stabbed by illegals and had teeth knocked out defending her ranch from invasion. It makes me hot. It makes me angry. These La Raza idiots fry me too with their arrogance. It is easy to get hot. The leaders of what we laughingly call political parties in this country play us all like a flute and use our anger against us.

I am afraid that the tempo of things will begin to pick up soon. We may soon face some serious adversaries in this world and will wake up one morning to find that we are no longer the biggest alligator in the pond. If we continue to lash out at Mexicans a la Michael "Savage" we risk alienating their country as we have alienated Venezuela. We may some day need our neighbors. We may be fighting for our survival. I just wanted to throw that proposition into the waters. I see that I hit a nerve.

We are in a hard position, and venting our spleens may be therapeutic, but it doesn't get us anywhere. I certainly don't pretend to know what the answers are, and I apologize for pissing you all off. I shill for no one and always speak my mind.

randge  posted on  2005-07-21   20:40:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: randge (#36)

And, I do know where I come from, and I do hallow the blood of patriots that made this country what it is just as I abhor the cabal that has landed us in the troubles that we are currently in. They have subjugated us and subjected us to an invasion of perhaps 10 million aliens, and left us no alternatives but wholesale forced repatriation or surrender. Yes, by right, all illegal aliens should be put on buses and be sent home. That would cause a circus that our enemies would use gleefully against us. Blame our masters, "left" and "right" who have been carefully cultivating political power over the last century and who have put us in this spot. However, don't hate those that come here for the same reasons that many - most - of our ancestors did. Few of them came here with a silver spoon in their mouths.

fine post, randge. i think there was just a bit of a misunderstanding of your point of view, but you articulate it well here. you make some good points.

christine  posted on  2005-07-21   21:24:28 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: christine (#37)

You are a gracious lady, and that is one of the reasons why I always consider it a privilege to post here.

randge  posted on  2005-07-21   21:50:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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