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Title: Breaking - Sarah is toast - Legislature investigation concludes that she broke the law
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Published: Oct 10, 2008
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Post Date: 2008-10-10 20:35:41 by a vast rightwing conspirator
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Troopergate Report: Palin Abused Power Unanimous but Contentious Vote to Release the Report to the Public By JUSTIN ROOD Oct. 10, 2008 (AP Graphic) Sarah Palin abused her power when she fired her Public Safety Commissioner this July, a state investigation has concluded. The Alaska legislature voted to release the several-hundred page report on the "Troopergate" scandal, a state kerfuffle which has come to haunt Gov. Sarah Palin's vice presidential bid. The scandal centered around her firing of Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan, which Monegan and others believed was part of a personal vendetta against one of his subordinates. The 14-member, Republican-dominated Legislative Council met in closed session this morning with the investigation's special counsel, Stephen Branchflower. After seven hours of exhaustive review, the legislators voted unanimously to release the report to the public. "I'm going to vote to release it, but it's not a vote in total agreement," said Republican Sen. Gary Stevens. "There's not a consensus for the conclusion," said GOP Rep. Bill Stoltze. He said he expected there would be "robust and vigorous intellectual debate on that in other corners." Stoltze said he had received hundreds of e-mails from all over the country calling for the public release of the report. The state added extra servers to handle the traffic expected when the report is posted electronically to the legislature's Web site. The Legislative Council voted unanimously to initiate the investigation in late July, after Palin fired former Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. The probe was to determine whether she fired Monegan because he refused to take action against a state trooper who had been through a messy divorce from Palin's sister. Palin denied wrongdoing and initially voiced support for the investigation. But after she joined the national Republican ticket, she and her supporters said the legislature had no right to investigate her, and accused legislators involved in the probe of supporting Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's presidential bid. A lawsuit to stop the probe, which echoed many of the campaign's charges, was thrown out yesterday by the state Supreme Court.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Be sure to visit the freep site and see the smoke rising. BTW - I feel that McSame chose Ms. Palin deliberately knowing she had damaging baggage so he and the Republicans could loose the Presidential election and blame it on a scape goat. - IMHO
Our citizens do not deserve a President as good as Dr. Ron Paul. What they deserve is higher taxes, more government inefficiency, war, regulations and devalued currency.(me) "I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have." "I'm pro-choice.........on light bulbs!" 12 posted on Fri Oct 10 2008 20:48:45 GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) by maeng It's okay then. She only abused her power. No big deal. That's what we need in a VP.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
I guess tazering kids and driving around drunk is hunkey dorey with you and the political charge. You Obama supporters are getting desperate.
What are you talking about? Oh, don't forget that Mao killed 30 million people. Right? Fact is, my old friend, Ms. Barackuda broke the law and she's toast. It's just a fact, uncovered by a fact-finding investigator.
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Pitiful excuses for human beings they are. Ignoring Obama's ties to terrorists while making a big deal about a witch hunt over firing a state employee. She had very right to fire the dude. She doesn't even have to give a reason for firing him. The guy she fired abused his wife and threatened to kill her.
God is always good!
Paul cant win...Paul cant win...Paul cant win...
Her violation is not firing Wooten. She abused power by pressuring subordinates, including Wooten, to fire that brother-in-law of hers. Do you understand abuse of power? It's the thing that scumbags such as Stalin, Mao or Nixon were known for. But, I bet, you don't understand much.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Neither can McCain. Make sure you remember: McCain can't win. In fact, remember the prediction I made almost half a year ago: Obama wins BY A LANDSLIDE.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Facts are Ayers broke the law and Obama is his good friend. Ayers didn't get a life-term in jail only becasue of a technicality. Obama hangs out with terrorists and think a story about a governor firing an employee that abused his wife and threatened to kill her is going anywhere? Funny! Their conclusion that she abused her power means nothing. Unless a court of law determines that it carries no weight other than to smear a popular governor.
God is always good!
You are voting for Obama and you say I don't understand much? Very funny!
God is always good!
Fact is, my friend, that Ayers is not Obama's good friend. Anyways, Sarah is toast and she's dragging McCain wit her, down into the tar pit.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
vast... Your credibility as an American is zero. Everyone sees you for what you are, namely a partisan political sheep that will never see the light. You are in fact a part of the problem in that you have always demonstrated that you are unable to think for yourself. Supporting anyone within the system is voting for our one party government. One hundred and thirty million programmed sheep including VAST will do their patriotic duty and cast a vote as programmed. Disgraceful.
McCain and the Bushes love you much. Congrants, my friend. By the way, I see that Sarah's abusing her power and now running for the vice prez does not bother you one bit.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
So regale us all with indepth descriptions of all the "Meet the Candidate" parties you've held over the years in your own private residence for people you dont know..... And while you're at it, take a poll of your neighbors and friends and co-workers and determine how many of them have done likewise. And at the same time, you might let us know how many boards of directors you serve on with all these candidates.
Oh - Let's not take this so seriously. The President is just a mouthpiece for the men behind the curtain. The real power brokers don't even care if they get a R or a D in the White House.
Our citizens do not deserve a President as good as Dr. Ron Paul. What they deserve is higher taxes, more government inefficiency, war, regulations and devalued currency.(me) "I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have." "I'm pro-choice.........on light bulbs!" Oy...pretty, pretty breasties!
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Vast... It is quite evident that you do not understand anything that transpires with this government nor politics. Have you learned nothing after being here???? Is your political bias so great that you are UNABLE to think for yourself???? At least show some semblance of understanding of what is going on around you. Disgraceful.
McCain's a nasty old coot, Palin is a tin-horn governor, Obama's a Commie and Biden is a CFR/crypto-something-or-other. Screw it. I'm voting for Ahmadenijad.
Look, I'm not planning to enter into absurd 'debates' about nothing with anyone. Note the topic of this thread: Sarah found to be a power abuser. Do you have anything to say about that? If you want to discuss solar eclipses, I suggest you find the proper thread or start one.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
smootchies, eh?
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
They've already bought Obama. He's their boy.
I'm not even sure that "Ayers" is such a bad guy. From what little I know of him, he was protesting against the Vietnam war. I'm too young to have had the opportunity to loose my life in that f**ked up war, but wasn't the Vietnam war a bad idea? So maybe, wasn't Ayers somewhat correct?
Our citizens do not deserve a President as good as Dr. Ron Paul. What they deserve is higher taxes, more government inefficiency, war, regulations and devalued currency.(me) "I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have." "I'm pro-choice.........on light bulbs!" A half billion dollars appeared as if by magic.
You guys trying to change the subject? Them other fellers ain't running for VP on the phony "Christian wife and mother" ticket! She didn't have to be perfect until she tried to pass herself off as honest, professional, truthful, loyal. If she'd cheat on her old man with his business partner and try to wrongfully axe another honest, dedicated public servant like her ex brother-in-law (her dad's a liar, is her sister a lying slut, too? Runs in the family I guess) we sure don't want her a heartbeat way from the presidency! Hell, she'll let the oil companies run the whole show! They'll be drilling in the name of The Lord, and any place they damn well please! ("There's oil under THE USS ARIZONA MEMORIAL, you say? WELL, GET THAT RUSTY TUB OUTTA THERE!") You two jerkoffs need to keep your cheap porn thrills and your politics separate. They put a big-legged woman on the ticket and the Pubs go nuts!
Love is a banquet, isn't it? That's what I've always been told.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
They don't have the constitutional authroity under Alaskas constitution to do squat. It is political posturing. Keep it up no one gives a shit about it. When you Obama worshippers talk about this constantly ordinary folks say this is the worse she ever did. People don't give a shit. Only Obama dopers such as yourself do.
Hold still, moron. I want to capture you for posterity, you creepy-ass nigger.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
How do you know she isn't a christian? You think your god or something? You sure act like it. The Bible says that we aren't to judge if someone is going to heaven or hell. That is what you are doing by implying she is a fake christian. You don't have the information about her personal life to make that determination. Therefore you are a deceiver.
Don't go getting nasty with me. I always thought you were ok. Don't make me change my mind.
Good. You love Cheney, you worship the Bush so it's not surprising Sarah and McCain are giving you a hardon. Gotta go. Good luck to you.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Clean up your language, that is the least you can do.
By no means am I a worshiper of Obama, but when added up, the collective mean spirited qualities of McSame and Mrs. Palin and their incredible spin - cinches the likelyhood that I will vote Obama next month.
Our citizens do not deserve a President as good as Dr. Ron Paul. What they deserve is higher taxes, more government inefficiency, war, regulations and devalued currency.(me) "I am further of opinion that it would be better for us to have [no laws] at all than to have them in so prodigious numbers as we have." "I'm pro-choice.........on light bulbs!" At least she didn't kill the trooper like the Clinton's killed the Arkansas state troopers. Is abuse of power a crime or just an ethical lapse in Alaska?? I don't fault her one bit for trying to have a trooper fired. Hell, I thought that's what governors did. I don't think it rises to the level of being discussed in public. Christine, please lock/delete this thread I always suspected you were the lorax, to be honest And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
More proof that you are a liar. Run along now little one.
from wiki The Lorax is a children's book, written by Dr. Seuss and first published in 1971. It chronicles the plight of the environment and the Lorax (a "mossy, bossy" man-like creature resembling an emperor tamarin), who speaks for the trees against the greedy Once-ler. As in most of Dr. Seuss's works, most of the creatures mentioned are original to the book. The book is commonly recognized as a fable concerning industrialized society, using the literary element of personification to give life to industry as the Once-ler (whose face is never shown in all of the story's illustrations) and to the environment as the Lorax. It has become a popular metaphor for those concerned about the human impact on the environment.
Obama is for killing babies born alive. That is evil. Go ahead and vote for evil.
Lorax is Shirley Temple's lazy daughter - look it up!
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
Why don't you adopt a few dozen before Obama drills holes in their heads?
Morris Dancing - put your ass up in the air
For the THIRD time in my life I'm voting AGAINST somebody instead FOR somebody. Bottom line, this will be the state of the USA if Obummer becomes POTUS: Abortion is an early indicator of public school performance.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
I want to live like Mad Max. Taylors world would be fun too. Take your damned hand off me you dirty ape. I'm actually undecided. I may vote McCain. But I like Baldwin better and maybe I'll vote for him.
He makes some valid points.
Morris Dancing - put your ass up in the air
How about Bush pardoning Eric Rudolph on his way out the door??? It would serve the liberals their just rewards and send them into orbit with madness :-)
As of now McCain has basically no chance of winning, so you may as well vote for Baldwin.
#2. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
Title: Breaking - Sarah is toast -
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)
Joseph Farah (2008)
#3. To: catcher (#2)
To: Chet 99 CNN reporting she abused her power but broke no law...
#4. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)
#5. To: Old Friend (#4)
#6. To: Old Friend (#4)
#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
#8. To: RickyJ (#6)
#9. To: Cynicom (#7)
#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
#11. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
But, I bet, you don't understand much.
#12. To: RickyJ (#10)
#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)
#14. To: Cynicom (#13)
(Edited)
#15. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#12)
Fact is, my friend, that Ayers is not Obama's good friend.
#16. To: Cynicom (#13)
Disgraceful.
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)
Joseph Farah (2008)
#17. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#14)
and I get to the bottom and I see you again...
#18. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#14)
McCain and the Bushes love you much.
#19. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#0)
#20. To: rowdee (#15)
#21. To: rowdee (#15)
So regale us all with indepth descriptions of all the "Meet the Candidate" parties you've held over the years in your own private residence for people you dont know
#22. To: catcher (#16)
The real power brokers don't even care if they get a R or a D in the White House.
#23. To: rowdee (#15)
Ayers
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)
Joseph Farah (2008)
#24. To: bluegrass (#22)
#25. To: RickyJ, Old Friend (#10)
#26. To: rowdee (#15)
#27. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
Note the topic of this thread: Sarah found to be a power abuser.
#28. To: Old Friend (#27)
Keep it up no one gives a shit about it. When you Obama worshippers talk about this constantly ordinary folks say this is the worse she ever did. People don't give a shit. Only Obama dopers such as yourself do
#29. To: HOUNDDAWG (#25)
Them other fellers ain't running for VP on the phony "Christian wife and mother" ticket!
#30. To: Dakmar (#28)
#31. To: Old Friend (#27)
(Edited)
#32. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#31)
Good. You love Cheney, you worship the Bush
#33. To: Old Friend (#27)
When you Obama worshippers talk about this constantly ordinary folks say this is the worse she ever did. People don't give a shit. Only Obama dopers such as yourself do.
Michel Eyquem, seigneur de Montaigne (1533–1592)
Joseph Farah (2008)
#34. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, christine, Cynicom (#8)
*freeper rant ON!!* 
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#35. To: Old Friend (#30)
Don't go getting nasty with me. I always thought you were ok. Don't make me change my mind.
#36. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#31)
Good. You love Cheney, you worship the Bush so it's not surprising Sarah and McCain are giving you a hardon
#37. To: Dakmar (#35)
#38. To: catcher (#33)
cinches the likelyhood that I will vote Obama next month.
#39. To: Old Friend (#37)
The Lorax is a children's book, written by Dr. Seuss and first published in 1971.
#40. To: Old Friend (#38)
#41. To: Yellow Cake (#40)
#42. To: Old Friend (#38)
Obama is for killing babies born alive. That is evil. Go ahead and vote for evil.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#43. To: Old Friend (#38)
Obama is for killing babies born alive. That is evil. Go ahead and vote for evil.
#44. To: X-15 (#42)
#45. To: Old Friend (#41)
#46. To: Yellow Cake (#40)
Why don't you adopt a few dozen before Obama drills holes in their heads?
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#47. To: Old Friend (#44)
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#48. To: X-15 (#46)
Eric Randall Rudolph would be and American hero if he hadn't done the olympic bombing.
How about Bush pardoning Eric Rudolph on his way out the door???
#49. To: Old Friend (#48)
He's no worse than the terrorists Clinton pardoned on his way out the door. I say tit for tat just to stick it to the left.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#50. To: Elliott Jackalope (#47)
McCain is going to win. Don't discount the fact that Obama is black. A lot of people don't like blacks period. I'm not saying that is right but that is the way it is. You Obama voters are trying to be clever and say vote third party while you vote for Obbamination.
As of now McCain has basically no chance of winning, so you may as well vote for Baldwin.
#51. To: X-15 (#49)
Did anyone die at the olympic bombing?
#52. To: Old Friend (#51)
IIRC one person had a heart attack and later died, a pre-existing condition that could have been triggered by anything.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#53. To: X-15 (#42)
LOVE THAT PIC!!! If he wins, we should send bananas daily to the White House.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#54. To: Cynicom (#24)
It's not just that... ----- Candidate Comparison: Top Contributors 2008 Cycle They both share Citigroup and Goldman Sux as backers. The real money's backing Obama and McCain is the dancing monkey in the circus to make Obama look good. On top of it all, Jewgle loves Obama too. It looks like America is going to have an honest to God banker-backed Marxist as president, all bought and paid for fair and square. Remember what happened in Russia when banker-backed Marxists ran the joint?
A half billion dollars appeared as if by magic.
Barack Obama
Goldman Sachs $739,521 University of California $697,506 Harvard University $501,489 Citigroup Inc $492,548 Google Inc $487,355 John McCain
----- Merrill Lynch $349,170 Citigroup Inc $287,801 Morgan Stanley $249,377 Goldman Sachs $220,045 JPMorgan Chase & Co $206,392
#55. To: bluegrass (#54)
If only I knew how to do sound effects...
The real money's backing Obama and McCain is the dancing monkey in the circus to make Obama look good.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#56. To: bluegrass (#54)
Thanks... However, in the larger scheme of things, I suspect Obama was created for a reason, being President was an ancillary condition.
#57. To: Dakmar (#55)
Just hum "The Merry Go Round Broke Down" and you'll be in the ballpark.
#58. To: catcher (#23)
From what little I know of him, he was protesting against the Vietnam war. Ayers was a bad guy. The weathermen were overt Marxists that used dissent over Viet Nam to try to recruit people to their cause. It didn't work, nobody was buying their communist BS. About the only thing they did well was drop out and go into hiding after a few bombings. They stayed in hiding for over 25 years...doing nothing I'm not even sure that "Ayers" is such a bad guy.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#59. To: Flintlock (#58)
I for one am glad you'll never have that recipe again, Jimmy!
The weathermen were overt Marxists that used dissent over Viet Nam to try to recruit people to their cause.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#60. To: Cynicom (#56)
Absotively. He'll be the American Lenin. Lenin's job as Lead Commissar was merely secondary to first job of steering Russia for the banking houses.
being President was an ancillary condition.
#61. To: Dakmar (#59)
A clever reference to Jimmy Webb's MacArthur Park lyrics? Very good. +10 for witty!
I for one am glad you'll never have that recipe again, Jimmy!
#62. To: bluegrass (#60)
blue... I find it frustrating here on 4um to find people actually supporting this government. If the government gave the sheep the option to be shot or hung, they would argue among themselves as to the better method. Some days I want forget it all.
#63. To: HOUNDDAWG, Dakmar (#61)
Dak's a smart guy.
+10 for witty!
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#64. To: Flintlock (#63)
someone left the left out in the rain where they got all eat up with shrooms and high priced chrysotype franchises.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#65. To: Cynicom (#62) (Edited)
It's an indication of the depth of the conditioning and brainwashing that the apex-dwellers have been foisting upon four or five generations of Americans. Most of the sheep will die ignorant of the fact that they spent their entire lives being suckered. I try to be patient with people still in the dark but I also don't waste a lot of time on them. If someone's eyes aren't starting to open to the election grift, they're dense as an oak post. I know a lot of kids in their 20's. Even the dimmer ones are hip to the scam. The next generation isn't going to be as compliant as the last few generations were.
I find it frustrating here on 4um to find people actually supporting this government.
#66. To: HOUNDDAWG, Dakmar (#61)
One of the top ten worst songs in the history of Creation.
MacArthur Park
#67. To: bluegrass, HOUNDDAWG, Flintlock (#66)
LOL, I hate Jimmy Webb.
One of the top ten worst songs in the history of Creation.
And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot
#68. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
YOU are the one that suggests they're howling at the wind over the Ayers-Obama connection. The 'storyline' put out to date is that they just happen to live in the same neighborhood, they just happen to have their kids in the same school, that they just happen to be on not one board of directors of some organizqation, but 2 boards, Ayers just happened to give a Meet the Candidate party at his house for Obama----but they have no connections with each other. So, I'm asking you if you would have us believe that there nothing there? Puleeze......that is exactly why I asked you how many parties you or your friends give for people you don't know. People don't give parties in their homes for people they don't know or are not familiar with. Go pick the lint out of your navel for all I care--but don't try to tell us it's pure Egyptian cotton!
#69. To: Dakmar (#67)
What Jimmy Webb does to Arkansas boys
#70. To: catcher (#23)
You don't go around blowing up property or people or having holdup heists to express your displeasure over such matters. Thats as shitty an argument as the liar in chief's idea that seeing as how the Taliban did 911, we'll go beat the shit outta saddam hussein.
#71. To: Dakmar (#26)
What's love got to do with it? GAds.......damn it, Dak......you got me quoting song titles!!!!!
#72. To: Cynicom (#62)
Some days I want forget it all. Some days I take a sick glee in what is coming. Much like some people in my life, never have I seen people work so hard and be so dedicated to actions and ideals that will result in theirs and others destruction. And when the bill comes due, I just smile an evil smile and say "This is exactly what you wanted."
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death." - Me.
"If violence solved nothing, then weapons technology would have never advanced past crude clubs and rocks." - Me.
#73. To: bluegrass, Cynicom (#65)
we thought the majority of 4um's posters were immune to it this time around. some have shocked me.
It's an indication of the depth of the conditioning and brainwashing
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#74. To: catcher (#33)
oh, catcher, say it ain't so. a vote for either candidate for the establishment party only serves to endorse the fraud.
cinches the likelyhood that I will vote Obama next month.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#75. To: christine (#73)
It is that Obama is that bad. You say they are equally bad. I have a question for you. Will the path each of them would take us down be an identical history? I think you know it wouldn't. So how can they be equal? One has to be better and one worse.
we thought the majority of 4um's posters were immune to it this time around. some have shocked me.
#76. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#20)
Guess I forgot to give my opinion as to the topic of the thread....... According to the article I read, the lead investigator said she abused power; however, the legislative committee didn't approve the report or adopt the report; they took no action on the content of the report--other than to put it out to the public, and that was due seemingly to pressure. So the investigator, who has leadings to the D side of the the world says she did. It is my feelings that she herself should have been stronger in demanding some action. It hasn't been in just the last week that people have been tazered and died; that moron former BIL could have killed a 10 year old kid! Furthermore, with threads being made to the family, I don't blame Todd for wanting the guy gone. Would you appreciate an ex- making threads against your wife, or your daughter's ex-husband doing it, or to your Mom? It seems like you can pick the paper up daily or near daily and find that some idiot parent has killed their kids and spouse. You can sure bet had the guy followed through, they'd be nailing Todd's ass for not having the balls to take care of his family. With that said, were it just stupid talk from the former BIL, it would be really, really, really stupid on the part of that family to try to get the guy fired when there are children who need child support. And as a state trooper, he'd be making good money, and have excellent benefits which would cover the kids.
#77. To: rowdee (#76)
Good speech rowdee. You gonna vote McCain? Maybe?
#78. To: HOUNDDAWG, RickyJ, Old Friend (#25)
Excerpt from The Daily Reckoning: We like Sarah Palin; we don't know what she is talking about. But she is the only candidate we can't make fun of it for. Consider this. You will find it hard to follow. Because it is not in English; it is in Palinese: "That's what I say that I like every American I am speaking with we're ill about this position that we been put in where it is taxpayers looking to bailout, but ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, um, helping the, oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and, and, putting it back on the right track; so health care reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans and trade... we have we got to see trade as an opportunity not as, a competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we we've got to look at that as more opportunity, all of those things under the umbrella of job creation, this bailout is part of that..." But just because the woman is a half-wit hardly disqualifies her from public office. The average county commissioner or governor is not much better. And at least one of America's finest presidents was probably little smarter than a moron. We refer to Warren Harding.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#79. To: christine, Cynicom, Tauzero, Lady X, angle (#73)
Me too. So much for the internet waking people up. Leading horses to water and all that. I think it's an emotional rather than a rational response. People get emotionally attached to party, football team, Coke/Pepsi, Trotsky/Stalin, etc. There's no way to rationally approach anything on that level, which is why the brainwashing media appeals to peoples' baser emotions as it's far easier to manipulate through pandering and fear mongering. The powers that be would be out of business if people actually thought for themselves.
some have shocked me.
#80. To: Old Friend (#77)
Hell no, I"m not voting for him! I don't even know that I will bother to go to the polls and vote, including not even writing in ROn's name. I am sort of anxiously awaiting riots if the big o loses.......and riots if the big o wins. I cannot for the life of me explain the mentality of those who participate in that sort of bullhockey behaviour. To reiterate, I WILL NOT vote for mccain........and certainly not o. I gave up that 'lesser of two evils' crap long ago. Evil is evil whether it is just a wee bit or a barrel full. I'll just let God deal with it. :)
#81. To: christine (#78)
I don't agree with the bailout. But some people think it is necessary. What she is saying is very simple. She thinks that if the whole economy goes down it will affect lots of different things people want done. Such as health care, jobs etc. People saying she is dumb for these comments are just looking for something to nitpick about imo.
but ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, um, helping the, oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and, and, putting it back on the right track; so health care reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans and trade..
#82. To: rowdee (#80)
Everyones righteousness is as filthy rags. We are all sinners and therefore we all have evil in us. So I guess you are never going to vote. Even Ron Paul has bad in him.
#83. To: Old Friend (#81)
Not nitpicking. She's really not the sharpest bulb in the drawer.
People saying she is dumb for these comments are just looking for something to nitpick about imo.
#84. To: bluegrass (#83)
She is brighter then Hillary. Hillary was utterly unqualified. She is brighter then you too obviously. Afterall she is a self made governor and you don't pull that off being a dummy. She has mostly good values.
Not nitpicking. She's really not the sharpest bulb in the drawer.
#85. To: Old Friend (#82)
Neither you nor I aspire to be at the helm of the pirate ship USS Government. McCain/Palin and Obama/Biden want to be head pirates so badly they can taste it. We're all sinners but very few of us are sociopaths.
We are all sinners and therefore we all have evil in us.
#86. To: bluegrass (#54)
From the webpage... "These tables list the top donors to these candidates in the 2008 election cycle. The organizations themselves did not donate , rather the money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates. Because of contribution limits, organizations that bundle together many individual contributions are often among the top donors to presidential candidates. These contributions can come from the organization's members or employees (and their families). The organization may support one candidate, or hedge its bets by supporting multiple candidates."
This explanatory statement makes your figures more meaningful:
#87. To: Old Friend (#84)
Maybe, maybe not. I'm certainly not stupid enough to vote for any one of the Four Scumriders of the Apocalypse. And I'm not corrupt or stupid enough to WANT to be a politician. Afterall she is a self made governor and you don't pull that off being a dummy. That's right. George W. Bush was a governor...never mind.
She is brighter then you too obviously.
#88. To: angle (#86)
My dog could donate $1000 and no one would blink an eye.
he money came from the organization's PAC, its individual members or employees or owners, and those individuals' immediate families. Organization totals include subsidiaries and affiliates.
#89. To: Old Friend (#82)
I am not referring to their sinning when I'm discussing evil. Lets don't even go there............
#90. To: Old Friend (#4) (Edited)
LMFAO. These Obamaphiles will go masturbatory over anything. Both candidates suck, and I'm voting for None Of The Above, but their hypocrisy is disgusting.
CNN reporting she abused her power but broke no law...
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#91. To: Old Friend, christine, bluegrass (#75) (Edited)
Non-sequitur. Yes, they would be different histories. But if the differences are orthogonal to your values, then they don't matter. The claim that there is no difference, if innocent, confuses a subjective statement of values for an objective fact of the universe. N.B. This behavior is more frequent among women.
I have a question for you. Will the path each of them would take us down be an identical history? I think you know it wouldn't. So how can they be equal? One has to be better and one worse.
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#92. To: Tauzero (#91)
Is there a qualitative difference between a husky crapping on your carpet or a dalmatian crapping on the sofa?
#93. To: Old Friend (#81)
I agree. Many intelligent people believe in the potent director fallacy.
People saying she is dumb for these comments are just looking for something to nitpick about imo.
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#94. To: bluegrass (#92)
Perhaps if one is a husky or a dalmation. I think it's an emotional rather than a rational response. Of course. That's the way humans work. Le Bon was right. Reason does not sit the throne of man's mind. People get emotionally attached to party, football team, Coke/Pepsi, Trotsky/Stalin, etc. Or their children, relatives, and nation. Objectively, my children do not deserve my help and love more than any other child. Phenomenologically, such a degree of objectivity extinguishes itself. The problem is not emotional attachments or irrationality in the service of emotional attachments. The problem is self-defeating, misdirected emotional attachments. which is why the brainwashing media appeals to peoples' baser emotions or the nobler ones The powers that be would be out of business if people actually thought for themselves. Yes, and they would also be out of business if all electrical conductors on the planet were suddenly quenched, which has about the same probability of happening. And that's not a bad thing. Just as it would be impossible to get dressed and drive to work if you actually had to consciously consider every decision made along the way, self-possessed rationality is incompatible with having a society at all. Self-possessed rationality is cost-prohibitive, and is not the optimal solution to the survival and success of the phenotype/genotype. For these reasons, choosing to vote for a politician simply because they remind you of you is just as sensible, in the absence of other information, and in the face of long habit, as crossing the street to avoid a hooded person of de colored. It is not just to damn people for it, IMO. More importantly, it is not effective.
Is there a qualitative difference between a husky crapping on your carpet or a dalmatian crapping on the sofa?
...Both methods yielded similar results, which support the previous findings; that is, of all modern human samples, sub-Saharan Africans again exhibit the closest phenetic similarity to various African Plio-Pleistocene hominins...
Ancient teeth and modern human origins: An expanded comparison of African Plio-Pleistocene and recent world dental samples, Journal of Human Evolution Volume 45, Issue 2, August 2003, Pages 113-144
#95. To: rowdee (#80)
Obama was created from nothing for a reason. A half billion dollars did not come from heaven or AMERICANS.
. I am sort of anxiously awaiting riots if the big o loses.......and riots if the big o wins.
#96. To: christine, Old Friend, Ricky J (#78)
Funny! It's hilarious to watch the minority party (you know those "closet Log Cabin Christians" who don't have the guts to come out and stop using religion for cover) getting all gaga over Sarah Mooseburger. And, Hell, she may have had a chance if Bush hadn't registered so many voters in the past 8 years. If these stoopid Pubs think that Dems will vote for her, well, all the Dems will have to hear is how cozy Sarah is with big oil, and young people know that if MR BIG needs more troops to defend "his new pipelines and oilfields" "Songbird" and Sarah will push through a poor man's draft to fight the rich man's war in a heartbeat! It's gut splitting funny to see these dirty Republican bastards trying to stop the groups who are registering voters, especially since their president has registered more DEMs than any org ever! And, when I see these dirty old men going ape over Sarah it makes me wonder what kind of beasts they have waiting for them at home (Think Babs Bush-ugh) and it also explains why so many "conservatives" can't pass a public restroom without stopping off for a tap dance with arguably (fe)male companions, but, who are obviously preferable to the hairy footed, hump-backed hobbits waiting for the senators and reps at home! HAH! Let me break the news to them, chris: Hey, Fellas, The GOP is a bunch of dinosaurs and there's an ice age coming..... Your party had Ron Paul and you tossed him for a crazy son of privilege and a clueless, vindictive, abusive, lying, unfaithful hack, and all because her Russian weight lifters-thighs got you all excited! "Her hair is moose poo brown.... Her lips kiss on the sides... Her hands will count your gold.... She's got Boris Yeltsin thighs...." (apologies to Kim Carnes)
#97. To: christine (#78)
Governor Palin has a very distinctive accent. Sometimes.
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#98. To: catcher (#33)
I knew October would start drawing out the hard to kill cooties.
cinches the likelyhood that I will vote Obama next month.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#99. To: Ferret Mike (#97)
Whazzup my Feral Reserve loving World Socialist cs?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#100. To: HOUNDDAWG (#96)
(*)
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
#101. To: Rotara (#99)
I am no socialist, and you are an asshole, that's what's up, dickhead.
"Whazzup my Feral Reserve loving World Socialist cs?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#102. To: Ferret Mike (#101)
Mike, I'm sensing a seething hostility and rage emanating from your aura. Please, sit and relax. Here's a little ditty I like to juke up real loud, especially on St. Paddy's Day!
#103. To: bluegrass (#87)
perfect (what the heck is a self made governor anyway?)
That's right. George W. Bush was a governor...never mind.
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#104. To: HOUNDDAWG (#96)
whew. that's harsh. ;)
Your party had Ron Paul and you tossed him for a crazy son of privilege and a clueless, vindictive, abusive, lying, unfaithful hack, and all because her Russian weight lifters-thighs got you all excited!
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#105. To: HOUNDDAWG (#96)
I believe that this is the music that you had in mind: But in (but in) the town it was well known,And, when I see these dirty old men going ape over Sarah it makes me wonder what kind of beasts they have waiting for them at home (Think Babs Bush-ugh
When they got home at night,
Their fat and psychopathic wives would thrash them,
Within inches of their lives.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
#106. To: christine (#103)
No idea. Maybe one that governs only themselves? ; ) I'm a little dense on some matters, so I have a question for you mano a womano: Does Sarah Palin strike you as a woman that would use her wiles and charms to get ahead in this world? I trust you get my drift.
what the heck is a self made governor anyway?
#107. To: christine (#104)
Americans had Ron Paul. It was our last chance to stand as one. And look at the continued attacks on him. It was a choice of survival or suicide. Partisans chose for us all.
Your party had Ron Paul
#108. To: bluegrass (#106)
Doesn't everyone use whatever game they have to their best interest? I don't mean in a self-serving manner, just maximizing their own potential.
Does Sarah Palin strike you as a woman that would use her wiles and charms to get ahead in this world?
#109. To: lodwick (#108)
It depends on how far one is willing to go to use what they have.
Doesn't everyone use whatever game they have to their best interest?
#110. To: bluegrass (#106)
no, she doesn't, but having said that, it wouldn't surprise me if i learned that she has or would.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#111. To: christine (#110)
You're always the diplomat, my dear.
#112. To: christine (#104)
Have you seen Ms. Moosestein in a swim suit? ;) Reminds me of those cartoons of the dancing hippos in tu tus! "I'll never forget the day I won her heart!" "Wrap your legs around me like a sweet potato vine!"
whew. that's harsh. ;)
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