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Title: October Surprise
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Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Phil Berg
Post Date: 2008-10-11 11:49:24 by Horse
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#23. To: bluegrass (#22)
True. Clinton was both.
I'll bet there are literally tens of millions who can't produce the ORIGINAL, especially the longer they live. If you want to run for President then, you better think about finding a way to prove you are a US citizen. There are few things that 'qualify' one to RUN for President. That happens to be one of them.
Amen. I suspect that Shrub is both also.
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton. But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds.
A great point that I neglected. It's hard to tell the narcissists from the sociopaths without a diagram. LOL! I can only point to one thing. Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I saw several psychiatrists make that assessment, including one I knew personally. You would almost have to be in order to want the job and get elected.
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence? Please don't point me at another windy, spaghetti-worded, tortured-logic site rant. What is the evidence?
They will often stir the pot in order to remain the center as well. Or at least that has been my experience. There is no record at the Hawaian hospitals for one. His mother flew to Kenya late in her term. She was prevented from returning home by Kenian authorities until after she gave birth.
Then where did the birth certicate come from? Are you suggesting he was born in Kenya? Why have no Hawaiians questioned this?
On re-reading, clearly you are saying Obama was born in Kenya. Where is this documented?
But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds. You would almost have to be in order to want the job and get elected. You know how strange it is for two or more people to come to the same conclusion? ;)
They will often stir the pot in order to remain the center as well. Or at least that has been my experience. I've seen that too. Not to take another swipe at Clinton, but I remember thinking years ago, Can't he just SHUT UP AND GO AWAY? If he had, perhaps more would've seen Bush and crowd for what they are, rather Clinton provided a diversion back to left/right dem/pub divide and conquer red meat politicking. Grr.
Seems almost planned doesn't it?
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
Yes, it does. Funny you mention it too. Have been rewatching a few old movies and recent as well. All these actions are telegraphed to us. As we watch the new in real time now, the aware can see the path being laid for the morons to reach the desired conclusion.
Exactly. Now there is a valid reason for the Dems to fight it as a party. If he isn't legit but is elected Pres. but diqualified after, Biden becomes Pres. The party wins either way.
Yes, there is always a trail. This is why "they" work so hard to discredit those who pick up on it. Conspiracy nuts, all of us.
Uhm, I have no reason to doubt the birth certificate image Obama has posted on his site, for all who care to look, to see. How much greater must a release be? If it wasn't authentic, surely we would have heard from Hawaiian authorities by now. Other than having the paper in your hand, why is it you and others don't find this acceptable? Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country and not understand how he did it.
The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.
That emoticon is perfect.
No argument from me.
Thanks. They do say it all sometimes.
It's a plan that works though.
I have no reason to believe to believe it. I don't "believe" anyone unless I know them personally. I especially just don't "believe" a politican. Until he releases the original, as he's refusing to do in this suit, he hasn't given any proof. McCain won't release his birth certificate either the last time I checked. He and Obama are equally untrustworthy. Haven't you had enough of being lied to by these jackasses?
He's way too late to lay claim to that distinction, the proof of that is the fact that in every election for god knows how many decades TWO buffons have routinely gotten their names on the ballot, and in seeing what they've ALL done to this country, each in their turn. Is a choice between TWO buffons the best we can ever do? We haven't learned yet that the limited choice they give us is no choice at all? If all that's true and we're still willing to vote for the evil of two lessers, its hard to deny that we do "richly" deserve everything we're about to receive, from either of this current crop of buffons.
What, exactly, has Obama done in this world that makes him great? I see another graduate of the Ivy League yeshivas promising us all Utopia.
Perhaps we should ask salemguy to name one or two great former presidents. From that we might derive which way his bias is blowing.
If it turns out that Obama has dual citizenship, can he still be President?
The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.
hey, Ridin, nice to see you again.
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Thanks Christine. Its good to see you, too. :)
Haven't you had enough of being lied to by these jackasses? Yessss!
Ok, I'll bite on this one, though I think farmfriend asked the question. My favorite presidents are Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy and Clinton. Great? Who knows? Every President has achieved some element of greatness. I revere Johnson for civil rights, voting rights, and health care legislation he put his presidency on the line for, for instance; and Nixon for OSHA, EPA and opening relations with China, though I don't revere him... I also regard Madison's financial system contibutions as great. In contrast, I consider Reagan and Bush II presidential disasters. The financial de-regulation they and Bush I put in place led directly to the current crisis,though Clinton didn't do anything about what the first two did, admittedly. Who knew how devious and unethical the money mongers might be? Does anyone here not think Bush II has been the worst since Hoover, if not the worst of all? Harkening back to the original subject, how're that goofball PA ex-Deputy AG and his buddy Molotov doing? I can't wait to see the October Surprise of Obama's not being a US-born citizen blown up. Has anyone figured out what a "long form birth certificate" is? Is that like a birth certificate and a medical report -- ooh, he's not circumsized? People who drive obsessively after things they want to believe in and foist on other people in the absence of proof or good sense are a substantial cause for the sad state of American politics, and I for one am not going to blame that on the politicians, though many pander to that stupid behavior, especially Republicans in the last three decades. Same folks are also willing to believe Obama's a Muslim and a terrorist, facts notwithstanding, hmm? Voting no for President is not an option. People who rant at the system and don't participate or contribute help no one. As for what's great about Obama, coming from his beginnings to where he is now is pretty hefty testimony. Has anyone ever seen a greater presidential campaign, given all the bs that happens along the way? What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency. Goodness knows we need that.
Being a cynical realist and having voted since Ike, I must say I have never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
Yup, I agree. That's why I hope we're in for better times.
It must be my lack of discernment. I have never met or voted for any politician that impressed me. Every one of them are mere men with many flaws looking for power at any cost. When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
Help me, here. Which AIPAC butt are you referring to?
What you lack is the ability to suspend your critical thinking and just jump on the bandwagon and hail Der Leader because everyone else is.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestIt's hard to tell the narcissists from the sociopaths without a diagram.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#24. To: Sam Houston (#17)
I can't produce my original birth certificate either.
#25. To: farmfriend (#23)
#26. To: farmfriend (#20)
maybe they are just narcissists.
#27. To: bluegrass (#22)
maybe they are just narcissists.
#28. To: bluegrass (#25)
I suspect that Shrub is both also.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#29. To: nikki (#26)
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton.
But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#30. To: farmfriend (#21)
There is evidence to suggest he wasn't born in the US.
#31. To: nikki, bluegrass (#27)
Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#32. To: salemguy (#30)
What is the evidence?
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#33. To: farmfriend (#32)
There is no record at the Hawaian hospitals for one.
#34. To: farmfriend (#32)
His mother flew to Kenya late in her term. She was prevented from returning home by Kenian authorities until after she gave birth.
#35. To: farmfriend (#29)
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton. I saw several psychiatrists make that assessment, including one I knew personally.
#36. To: farmfriend (#31)
Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
#37. To: nikki (#36)
rather Clinton provided a diversion back to left/right dem/pub divide and conquer red meat politicking.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#38. To: salemguy, farmfriend (#30)
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence?
#39. To: farmfriend (#37)
Seems almost planned doesn't it?
#40. To: bluegrass, salemguy (#38)
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It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#41. To: nikki (#39)
All these actions are telegraphed to us.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#42. To: bluegrass (#38)
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
#43. To: salemguy, bluegrass (#42)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#44. To: farmfriend (#43)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#45. To: farmfriend (#43)
#46. To: Turtle (#44)
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country and not understand how he did it.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#47. To: nikki (#45)
That emoticon is perfect.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#48. To: farmfriend (#41)
Yes, there is always a trail. This is why "they" work so hard to discredit those who pick up on it. Conspiracy nuts, all of us.
#49. To: salemguy, farmfriend, nikki (#42)
I have no reason to doubt the birth certificate image Obama has posted on his site...
#50. To: Turtle (#44)
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country ....
#51. To: farmfriend, salemguy (#43)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#52. To: bluegrass, salemguy (#51)
Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#53. To: Horse (#0)
#54. To: RidinShotgun (#50)
#55. To: christine (#54)
#56. To: bluegrass (#49)
McCain won't release his birth certificate either the last time I checked. He and Obama are equally untrustworthy.
#57. To: Cynicom (#52)
Great Presidents
#58. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#59. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
#61. To: bluegrass (#59)
#62. To: bluegrass (#59)
get his nose out of AIPAC's butt?
#63. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
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