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Title: October Surprise
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Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Phil Berg
Post Date: 2008-10-11 11:49:24 by Horse
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#56. To: bluegrass (#49)
Haven't you had enough of being lied to by these jackasses? Yessss!
Ok, I'll bite on this one, though I think farmfriend asked the question. My favorite presidents are Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy and Clinton. Great? Who knows? Every President has achieved some element of greatness. I revere Johnson for civil rights, voting rights, and health care legislation he put his presidency on the line for, for instance; and Nixon for OSHA, EPA and opening relations with China, though I don't revere him... I also regard Madison's financial system contibutions as great. In contrast, I consider Reagan and Bush II presidential disasters. The financial de-regulation they and Bush I put in place led directly to the current crisis,though Clinton didn't do anything about what the first two did, admittedly. Who knew how devious and unethical the money mongers might be? Does anyone here not think Bush II has been the worst since Hoover, if not the worst of all? Harkening back to the original subject, how're that goofball PA ex-Deputy AG and his buddy Molotov doing? I can't wait to see the October Surprise of Obama's not being a US-born citizen blown up. Has anyone figured out what a "long form birth certificate" is? Is that like a birth certificate and a medical report -- ooh, he's not circumsized? People who drive obsessively after things they want to believe in and foist on other people in the absence of proof or good sense are a substantial cause for the sad state of American politics, and I for one am not going to blame that on the politicians, though many pander to that stupid behavior, especially Republicans in the last three decades. Same folks are also willing to believe Obama's a Muslim and a terrorist, facts notwithstanding, hmm? Voting no for President is not an option. People who rant at the system and don't participate or contribute help no one. As for what's great about Obama, coming from his beginnings to where he is now is pretty hefty testimony. Has anyone ever seen a greater presidential campaign, given all the bs that happens along the way? What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency. Goodness knows we need that.
Being a cynical realist and having voted since Ike, I must say I have never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
Yup, I agree. That's why I hope we're in for better times.
It must be my lack of discernment. I have never met or voted for any politician that impressed me. Every one of them are mere men with many flaws looking for power at any cost. When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
Help me, here. Which AIPAC butt are you referring to?
What you lack is the ability to suspend your critical thinking and just jump on the bandwagon and hail Der Leader because everyone else is. More likely a lack of connection. I've met a number of pols who were not power nuts, even some Republicans, and I've seen s good number who were actually about making things better for all of us. That would be a long list, as I think about it. Your cynicism seems to warp your perception. Obama founded his campaign on changing DC politics as usual, and while I don't think he can fully achieve that, it's a heckuva lot better direction to be rowing, and I do believe he will achieve some....
You can't be serious. ---- Obama's AIPAC Speech, Rahm's Endorsement "I want you to know that today I’ll be speaking from my heart, and as a true friend of Israel. And I know that when I visit with AIPAC, I am among friends. Good friends. Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow, and forever." ---- Didn't you notice that Obama and McCain tried to outdo each other in the debates by both stating, multiple times, that there won't be a "second holocaust"? The rest of the world notices even if the two-backed Obama/McCain beast doesn't: "It is deeply disastrous to witness that some presidential or premiere nominees in some big countries have to visit these people, take part in their gatherings, swear their allegiance and commitment to their interests in order to attain financial or media support." -From my sig
If you read William L. Shirer, he attended many of the German mass rallies. He made the remark that he could never understand the mass hysteria, due to pageantry and oratory. Seeing the people enthralled and mesmerized was was beyond belief. We have such susceptible people here on 4um.
On the other hand, Shirer paticipated in the mass hysteria by pushing the gas chamber claims. Have you ever seen David Cole's interview with Franz Piper? David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, Director, Auschwitz State Museum
the only hope we got is that obama will pull a putin on the israeli americans. chances of that? practically zero.
Shirer was a Jew. I was merely pointing out his not understanding mass hysteria as a human fault. We now have the same thing, just to a much smaller degree.
You're an optimist. : ) Good to see ya again, waddy. WTF happened to LF? Any idea?
I'm shocked. I was merely pointing out his not understanding mass hysteria as a human fault. Gotchya and roger.
yeah. LF must have outlived its usefulness, so they pulled the plug. the most interesting thing is the timing... was the LF project plugged in so solidly that they knew this financial 9/11 was in the works?
LF had a steady readership of 1000-2000 people a day, worldwide. The info posted there went all over the net eventually. Can't have that now, can we?
nope... ...plus the place was infested with truly ugly characters that were doing nobody any good at all.
Ah, yes, that AIPAC. Except for being a lone outpost in the Middle East generally supporting the US, and a major staging area and military aid recipient, I've often wondered why Israel has been an essential commitment of US presidents. I don't think that's a bad thing, but their occupation of Palestinian lands and oppression of people is not a good thing. It's clearly a conundrum. Until there is greater stability in the area, and peace among its nations -- bigger job now after Bush disasters, hmm? -- I think we're going to have to continue extraordinary support for Israel. I don't want to invite the Zionist-anti-Zionist stuff with this comment. It's as puzzling to me as the Shiite-Sunni conflicts, seeming ancient and irrelevant today. I will step out of this discussion because these are issues I don't understand, in the end.
Ya mean the mods? ; ) Seriously, I agree. I would like to start an LF refugee mailing list or something, though.
might turn out to be a mixed blessing....
hi wadosy, welcome to 4um.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
howdy, ma'am. thank you, glad to be here.
It's not hard to understand. We're told that Israel is our "only friend" in the Mideast. Before Israel, we had no enemies in the Mideast. Obama and McCain pretend to disgree when, in fact, they're in complete sympatico on the single most important foreign policy issue facing Americans. As I said, it's not hard to understand.
When I see people shrieking and jumping around at political rallies I wonder why I should feel more embarassed for their lack of self-control than they do. Teeny boppers. Raging hormones. Giggles. Fan clubs. The only thing missing is pubescent pimples.
Glad to see that I have other company, that I am not alone in this world.
I guess he gives them hope. Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine, regardless of which candidate is currently packing (sucking) them in.
Oh, I think we have a lot of company. We just tend not to shriek and jump around in front of cameras.
Some people actually enjoy being swayed by mass hysteria brought upon them by oratory and pagentry.
mine too. the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Roman coliseums are still in style. A fight to the death always gets the blood rushing to some people's tiny brains.
mindless collectives .... democracy in action.
If you were white trash hill billy, I would say you would be a close cuzin to me.
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
because they promise goodies...
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
So are chariot races: The only thing that picture proves is that 99.9% of the people of this country are going to get what they deserve. The other 0.1% like me, my mother, Chrissy, Jethro, Cynicom, Lodwick, and several others here don't deserve what's coming.
I always aspired to be a hill billy, but never made it quite that far. Is that close enuf for soul cuzins?
Because decent, honest people don't need or want to be surrounded by braindead idolizers.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestMcCain won't release his birth certificate either the last time I checked. He and Obama are equally untrustworthy.
#57. To: Cynicom (#52)
Great Presidents
#58. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#59. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
#61. To: bluegrass (#59)
#62. To: bluegrass (#59)
get his nose out of AIPAC's butt?
#63. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
#64. To: Cynicom (#61)
#65. To: salemguy (#62)
#66. To: bluegrass (#63)
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#67. To: Cynicom (#66)
#68. To: bluegrass (#59)
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
#69. To: bluegrass (#67)
On the other hand, Shirer paticipated in the mass hysteria by pushing the gas chamber claims.
#70. To: wadosy (#68)
practically zero.
#71. To: Cynicom (#69)
Shirer was a Jew.
#72. To: bluegrass (#70)
(Edited)
You're an optimist. : )
#73. To: wadosy (#72)
#74. To: bluegrass (#73)
#75. To: bluegrass (#65)
#76. To: wadosy (#74)
.plus the place was infested with truly ugly characters that were doing nobody any good at all.
#77. To: bluegrass (#76)
I would like to start an LF refugee mailing list or something, though.
#78. To: wadosy (#68)
#79. To: christine (#78)
#80. To: salemguy (#75)
I will step out of this discussion because these are issues I don't understand, in the end.
#81. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
#82. To: RidinShotgun (#81)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#83. To: RidinShotgun (#81)
I should feel more embarassed for their lack of self-control than they do.
#84. To: Ferret Mike (#82)
#85. To: Cynicom (#83)
#86. To: RidinShotgun, Ferret Mike (#84)
#87. To: RidinShotgun (#84)
Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine
#88. To: Cynicom (#86)
#89. To: christine (#87)
the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
#90. To: RidinShotgun, christine (#88)
Roman coliseums are still in style. A fight to the death always gets the blood rushing to some people's tiny brains.
#91. To: christine (#87)
the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
#92. To: bluegrass (#91)
#93. To: RidinShotgun (#88)
Roman coliseums are still in style.
#94. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, lodwick, 4umers (#82)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#95. To: Cynicom (#90)
If you were white trash hill billy, I would say you would be a close cuzin to me.
#96. To: bluegrass (#91)
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
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