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Title: October Surprise
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA6_ ... =http://www.americasright.com/
Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Phil Berg
Post Date: 2008-10-11 11:49:24 by Horse
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Views: 2201
Comments: 105
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
This video is bizarre and so off-base I'm amazed, once again at the extent to which racists, apparently, will go to mislead and misinform people. I couldn't even listen to the whole thing. Obama has posted a picture of his birth certificate on his web site, the "smear" pages, as I recall. No one in Hawaii, as far as I know, has questioned it. Where does Philip J. Berg get his information? If not born there, where was he born? And where do you deport a US citizen? I can't believe how stupid this is.
But he won't produce the original: Barack Obama Seeks To Block Discovery in Citizenship Lawsuit "Mr. Berg asserts that if Barack Hussein Obama will produce the above documents and prove his eligibility for the Office of the Presidency, that he (Mr. Berg) will dismiss his lawsuit voluntarily. To date, Obama has refused to produce these documents to Mr. Berg."
Huh? First, anyone born in the US is a US citizen, regardless of where they spent early years or where their parents come from. The Obama document I have seen online clearly says Hawaii and evidences an official seal. As for the rest of this crap: "1. a certified copy of Obama’s “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate; "2. a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship; and "3. a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama at the age of majority." What? I've never heard of any of these, although I can imagine the latter two pertain to naturalized citizens, which is irrelevant. This is totally bogus bs.
There is evidence to suggest he wasn't born in the US.
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence? Please don't point me at another windy, spaghetti-worded, tortured-logic site rant. What is the evidence?
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
Uhm, I have no reason to doubt the birth certificate image Obama has posted on his site, for all who care to look, to see. How much greater must a release be? If it wasn't authentic, surely we would have heard from Hawaiian authorities by now. Other than having the paper in your hand, why is it you and others don't find this acceptable? Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
What, exactly, has Obama done in this world that makes him great? I see another graduate of the Ivy League yeshivas promising us all Utopia.
Perhaps we should ask salemguy to name one or two great former presidents. From that we might derive which way his bias is blowing.
Ok, I'll bite on this one, though I think farmfriend asked the question. My favorite presidents are Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy and Clinton. Great? Who knows? Every President has achieved some element of greatness. I revere Johnson for civil rights, voting rights, and health care legislation he put his presidency on the line for, for instance; and Nixon for OSHA, EPA and opening relations with China, though I don't revere him... I also regard Madison's financial system contibutions as great. In contrast, I consider Reagan and Bush II presidential disasters. The financial de-regulation they and Bush I put in place led directly to the current crisis,though Clinton didn't do anything about what the first two did, admittedly. Who knew how devious and unethical the money mongers might be? Does anyone here not think Bush II has been the worst since Hoover, if not the worst of all? Harkening back to the original subject, how're that goofball PA ex-Deputy AG and his buddy Molotov doing? I can't wait to see the October Surprise of Obama's not being a US-born citizen blown up. Has anyone figured out what a "long form birth certificate" is? Is that like a birth certificate and a medical report -- ooh, he's not circumsized? People who drive obsessively after things they want to believe in and foist on other people in the absence of proof or good sense are a substantial cause for the sad state of American politics, and I for one am not going to blame that on the politicians, though many pander to that stupid behavior, especially Republicans in the last three decades. Same folks are also willing to believe Obama's a Muslim and a terrorist, facts notwithstanding, hmm? Voting no for President is not an option. People who rant at the system and don't participate or contribute help no one. As for what's great about Obama, coming from his beginnings to where he is now is pretty hefty testimony. Has anyone ever seen a greater presidential campaign, given all the bs that happens along the way? What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency. Goodness knows we need that.
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
It must be my lack of discernment. I have never met or voted for any politician that impressed me. Every one of them are mere men with many flaws looking for power at any cost. When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
When I see people shrieking and jumping around at political rallies I wonder why I should feel more embarassed for their lack of self-control than they do. Teeny boppers. Raging hormones. Giggles. Fan clubs. The only thing missing is pubescent pimples.
I guess he gives them hope. Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine, regardless of which candidate is currently packing (sucking) them in.
mine too. the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
#92. To: bluegrass (#91)
because they promise goodies...
Because decent, honest people don't need or want to be surrounded by braindead idolizers.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestBarack Obama is not a natural born citizen?
#2. To: salemguy (#1)
Obama has posted a picture of his birth certificate on his web site
#13. To: bluegrass (#2)
"Mr. Berg asserts that if Barack Hussein Obama will produce the above documents and prove his eligibility for the Office of the Presidency, that he (Mr. Berg) will dismiss his lawsuit voluntarily. To date, Obama has refused to produce these documents to Mr. Berg."
#21. To: salemguy (#13)
First, anyone born in the US is a US citizen, regardless of where they spent early years or where their parents come from.
#30. To: farmfriend (#21)
There is evidence to suggest he wasn't born in the US.
#38. To: salemguy, farmfriend (#30)
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence?
#42. To: bluegrass (#38)
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
#43. To: salemguy, bluegrass (#42)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#51. To: farmfriend, salemguy (#43)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#52. To: bluegrass, salemguy (#51)
Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#57. To: Cynicom (#52)
Great Presidents
#59. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#61. To: bluegrass (#59)
#81. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
#82. To: RidinShotgun (#81)
#84. To: Ferret Mike (#82)
#87. To: RidinShotgun (#84)
Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine
#91. To: christine (#87)
the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
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#96. To: bluegrass (#91)
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
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