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Title: October Surprise
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Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: Phil Berg
Post Date: 2008-10-11 11:49:24 by Horse
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#1. To: Horse (#0)
This video is bizarre and so off-base I'm amazed, once again at the extent to which racists, apparently, will go to mislead and misinform people. I couldn't even listen to the whole thing. Obama has posted a picture of his birth certificate on his web site, the "smear" pages, as I recall. No one in Hawaii, as far as I know, has questioned it. Where does Philip J. Berg get his information? If not born there, where was he born? And where do you deport a US citizen? I can't believe how stupid this is.
But he won't produce the original: Barack Obama Seeks To Block Discovery in Citizenship Lawsuit "Mr. Berg asserts that if Barack Hussein Obama will produce the above documents and prove his eligibility for the Office of the Presidency, that he (Mr. Berg) will dismiss his lawsuit voluntarily. To date, Obama has refused to produce these documents to Mr. Berg."
There is a reason he refuses to do so. Because he can't.
Because he can't. Or if he did, it would prove him to be the liar we all know him to be. That being said, McLame has the same problem with basic honesty.
Philip Berg is a racist?
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Absolutely. Both 'candidates' are IN YOUR FACE abominations.
"In Your Face" is how their masters operate.
Which makes you wonder about their sick soldiers.
It's my assumption that operatives like McCain and Obama are either living in a constant state of denial or are sociopaths that don't need the denial mechanism in the first place.
I agree. It's those that defend either of them that need total repudiation. Those people are equally complicit in the take down of the country. May they rot quickly.
Since sociopaths are only about 5-10% of the population, most people that are hooked on the McCain/Obama construct are, like their heroes, also in some form of denial about economic and political reality. If true, that means the other 5-10% of their support base are also sociopaths.
I follow the logic but the mental illness is certainly greater than 5 - 10 percent. Acutally, I think some of these people are without any human conscience.
Huh? First, anyone born in the US is a US citizen, regardless of where they spent early years or where their parents come from. The Obama document I have seen online clearly says Hawaii and evidences an official seal. As for the rest of this crap: "1. a certified copy of Obama’s “vault” (original long version) Birth Certificate; "2. a certified copy of Obama’s Certificate of Citizenship; and "3. a certified copy of the Oath of Allegiance taken by Obama at the age of majority." What? I've never heard of any of these, although I can imagine the latter two pertain to naturalized citizens, which is irrelevant. This is totally bogus bs.
Note I said "apparently. " If he's a lifelong Democrat, I can't think of any other reason he would be pursuing such a ridiculous effort.
Why won't Obama produce the original? That's the point of the lawsuit.
Mental illness is waaaay high. Sociopaths, specifically, are only about 5-10%.
I can't produce my original birth certificate either. I'll bet there are literally tens of millions who can't produce the ORIGINAL, especially the longer they live.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
I had to go back to the county I was to born in to get mine. It's not that hard. Birth certificates have been used in America for decade upon decade.
Thanks for the clarification blue.
maybe they are just narcissists.
There is evidence to suggest he wasn't born in the US.
A great point that I neglected. It's hard to tell the narcissists from the sociopaths without a diagram.
True. Clinton was both.
I'll bet there are literally tens of millions who can't produce the ORIGINAL, especially the longer they live. If you want to run for President then, you better think about finding a way to prove you are a US citizen. There are few things that 'qualify' one to RUN for President. That happens to be one of them.
Amen. I suspect that Shrub is both also.
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton. But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds.
A great point that I neglected. It's hard to tell the narcissists from the sociopaths without a diagram. LOL! I can only point to one thing. Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
Wouldn't surprise me.
I saw several psychiatrists make that assessment, including one I knew personally. You would almost have to be in order to want the job and get elected.
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence? Please don't point me at another windy, spaghetti-worded, tortured-logic site rant. What is the evidence?
They will often stir the pot in order to remain the center as well. Or at least that has been my experience. There is no record at the Hawaian hospitals for one. His mother flew to Kenya late in her term. She was prevented from returning home by Kenian authorities until after she gave birth.
Then where did the birth certicate come from? Are you suggesting he was born in Kenya? Why have no Hawaiians questioned this?
On re-reading, clearly you are saying Obama was born in Kenya. Where is this documented?
But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds. You would almost have to be in order to want the job and get elected. You know how strange it is for two or more people to come to the same conclusion? ;)
They will often stir the pot in order to remain the center as well. Or at least that has been my experience. I've seen that too. Not to take another swipe at Clinton, but I remember thinking years ago, Can't he just SHUT UP AND GO AWAY? If he had, perhaps more would've seen Bush and crowd for what they are, rather Clinton provided a diversion back to left/right dem/pub divide and conquer red meat politicking. Grr.
Seems almost planned doesn't it?
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
Yes, it does. Funny you mention it too. Have been rewatching a few old movies and recent as well. All these actions are telegraphed to us. As we watch the new in real time now, the aware can see the path being laid for the morons to reach the desired conclusion.
Exactly. Now there is a valid reason for the Dems to fight it as a party. If he isn't legit but is elected Pres. but diqualified after, Biden becomes Pres. The party wins either way.
Yes, there is always a trail. This is why "they" work so hard to discredit those who pick up on it. Conspiracy nuts, all of us.
Uhm, I have no reason to doubt the birth certificate image Obama has posted on his site, for all who care to look, to see. How much greater must a release be? If it wasn't authentic, surely we would have heard from Hawaiian authorities by now. Other than having the paper in your hand, why is it you and others don't find this acceptable? Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country and not understand how he did it.
The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.
That emoticon is perfect.
No argument from me.
Thanks. They do say it all sometimes.
It's a plan that works though.
I have no reason to believe to believe it. I don't "believe" anyone unless I know them personally. I especially just don't "believe" a politican. Until he releases the original, as he's refusing to do in this suit, he hasn't given any proof. McCain won't release his birth certificate either the last time I checked. He and Obama are equally untrustworthy. Haven't you had enough of being lied to by these jackasses?
He's way too late to lay claim to that distinction, the proof of that is the fact that in every election for god knows how many decades TWO buffons have routinely gotten their names on the ballot, and in seeing what they've ALL done to this country, each in their turn. Is a choice between TWO buffons the best we can ever do? We haven't learned yet that the limited choice they give us is no choice at all? If all that's true and we're still willing to vote for the evil of two lessers, its hard to deny that we do "richly" deserve everything we're about to receive, from either of this current crop of buffons.
What, exactly, has Obama done in this world that makes him great? I see another graduate of the Ivy League yeshivas promising us all Utopia.
Perhaps we should ask salemguy to name one or two great former presidents. From that we might derive which way his bias is blowing.
If it turns out that Obama has dual citizenship, can he still be President?
The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.
hey, Ridin, nice to see you again.
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Thanks Christine. Its good to see you, too. :)
Haven't you had enough of being lied to by these jackasses? Yessss!
Ok, I'll bite on this one, though I think farmfriend asked the question. My favorite presidents are Washington, Jefferson, Jackson, Lincoln, both Roosevelts, Kennedy and Clinton. Great? Who knows? Every President has achieved some element of greatness. I revere Johnson for civil rights, voting rights, and health care legislation he put his presidency on the line for, for instance; and Nixon for OSHA, EPA and opening relations with China, though I don't revere him... I also regard Madison's financial system contibutions as great. In contrast, I consider Reagan and Bush II presidential disasters. The financial de-regulation they and Bush I put in place led directly to the current crisis,though Clinton didn't do anything about what the first two did, admittedly. Who knew how devious and unethical the money mongers might be? Does anyone here not think Bush II has been the worst since Hoover, if not the worst of all? Harkening back to the original subject, how're that goofball PA ex-Deputy AG and his buddy Molotov doing? I can't wait to see the October Surprise of Obama's not being a US-born citizen blown up. Has anyone figured out what a "long form birth certificate" is? Is that like a birth certificate and a medical report -- ooh, he's not circumsized? People who drive obsessively after things they want to believe in and foist on other people in the absence of proof or good sense are a substantial cause for the sad state of American politics, and I for one am not going to blame that on the politicians, though many pander to that stupid behavior, especially Republicans in the last three decades. Same folks are also willing to believe Obama's a Muslim and a terrorist, facts notwithstanding, hmm? Voting no for President is not an option. People who rant at the system and don't participate or contribute help no one. As for what's great about Obama, coming from his beginnings to where he is now is pretty hefty testimony. Has anyone ever seen a greater presidential campaign, given all the bs that happens along the way? What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency. Goodness knows we need that.
Being a cynical realist and having voted since Ike, I must say I have never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
Yup, I agree. That's why I hope we're in for better times.
It must be my lack of discernment. I have never met or voted for any politician that impressed me. Every one of them are mere men with many flaws looking for power at any cost. When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
Help me, here. Which AIPAC butt are you referring to?
What you lack is the ability to suspend your critical thinking and just jump on the bandwagon and hail Der Leader because everyone else is. More likely a lack of connection. I've met a number of pols who were not power nuts, even some Republicans, and I've seen s good number who were actually about making things better for all of us. That would be a long list, as I think about it. Your cynicism seems to warp your perception. Obama founded his campaign on changing DC politics as usual, and while I don't think he can fully achieve that, it's a heckuva lot better direction to be rowing, and I do believe he will achieve some....
You can't be serious. ---- Obama's AIPAC Speech, Rahm's Endorsement "I want you to know that today I’ll be speaking from my heart, and as a true friend of Israel. And I know that when I visit with AIPAC, I am among friends. Good friends. Friends who share my strong commitment to make sure that the bond between the United States and Israel is unbreakable today, tomorrow, and forever." ---- Didn't you notice that Obama and McCain tried to outdo each other in the debates by both stating, multiple times, that there won't be a "second holocaust"? The rest of the world notices even if the two-backed Obama/McCain beast doesn't: "It is deeply disastrous to witness that some presidential or premiere nominees in some big countries have to visit these people, take part in their gatherings, swear their allegiance and commitment to their interests in order to attain financial or media support." -From my sig
If you read William L. Shirer, he attended many of the German mass rallies. He made the remark that he could never understand the mass hysteria, due to pageantry and oratory. Seeing the people enthralled and mesmerized was was beyond belief. We have such susceptible people here on 4um.
On the other hand, Shirer paticipated in the mass hysteria by pushing the gas chamber claims. Have you ever seen David Cole's interview with Franz Piper? David Cole Interviews Dr. Franciszek Piper, Director, Auschwitz State Museum
the only hope we got is that obama will pull a putin on the israeli americans. chances of that? practically zero.
Shirer was a Jew. I was merely pointing out his not understanding mass hysteria as a human fault. We now have the same thing, just to a much smaller degree.
You're an optimist. : ) Good to see ya again, waddy. WTF happened to LF? Any idea?
I'm shocked. I was merely pointing out his not understanding mass hysteria as a human fault. Gotchya and roger.
yeah. LF must have outlived its usefulness, so they pulled the plug. the most interesting thing is the timing... was the LF project plugged in so solidly that they knew this financial 9/11 was in the works?
LF had a steady readership of 1000-2000 people a day, worldwide. The info posted there went all over the net eventually. Can't have that now, can we?
nope... ...plus the place was infested with truly ugly characters that were doing nobody any good at all.
Ah, yes, that AIPAC. Except for being a lone outpost in the Middle East generally supporting the US, and a major staging area and military aid recipient, I've often wondered why Israel has been an essential commitment of US presidents. I don't think that's a bad thing, but their occupation of Palestinian lands and oppression of people is not a good thing. It's clearly a conundrum. Until there is greater stability in the area, and peace among its nations -- bigger job now after Bush disasters, hmm? -- I think we're going to have to continue extraordinary support for Israel. I don't want to invite the Zionist-anti-Zionist stuff with this comment. It's as puzzling to me as the Shiite-Sunni conflicts, seeming ancient and irrelevant today. I will step out of this discussion because these are issues I don't understand, in the end.
Ya mean the mods? ; ) Seriously, I agree. I would like to start an LF refugee mailing list or something, though.
might turn out to be a mixed blessing....
hi wadosy, welcome to 4um.
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howdy, ma'am. thank you, glad to be here.
It's not hard to understand. We're told that Israel is our "only friend" in the Mideast. Before Israel, we had no enemies in the Mideast. Obama and McCain pretend to disgree when, in fact, they're in complete sympatico on the single most important foreign policy issue facing Americans. As I said, it's not hard to understand.
When I see people shrieking and jumping around at political rallies I wonder why I should feel more embarassed for their lack of self-control than they do. Teeny boppers. Raging hormones. Giggles. Fan clubs. The only thing missing is pubescent pimples.
Glad to see that I have other company, that I am not alone in this world.
I guess he gives them hope. Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine, regardless of which candidate is currently packing (sucking) them in.
Oh, I think we have a lot of company. We just tend not to shriek and jump around in front of cameras.
Some people actually enjoy being swayed by mass hysteria brought upon them by oratory and pagentry.
mine too. the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
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Roman coliseums are still in style. A fight to the death always gets the blood rushing to some people's tiny brains.
mindless collectives .... democracy in action.
If you were white trash hill billy, I would say you would be a close cuzin to me.
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
because they promise goodies...
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So are chariot races: The only thing that picture proves is that 99.9% of the people of this country are going to get what they deserve. The other 0.1% like me, my mother, Chrissy, Jethro, Cynicom, Lodwick, and several others here don't deserve what's coming.
I always aspired to be a hill billy, but never made it quite that far. Is that close enuf for soul cuzins?
Because decent, honest people don't need or want to be surrounded by braindead idolizers.
This time around there will be no middle class. There will be the elite and the "no class" as in the days of serfdom.
After listening to the Howard Stern show interviews with voters in Harlem, I'm almost convinced that we have the government that we deserve. Give it a listen if you haven't already.
Is that the New Nuremberg Rally?
Modernized chariots. Prolly not enough blood drippin' on the pavement to make some people happy in our new civilized age, but apparently still enough to satisfy the spectators.
That's what 'extreme tough guy boxing' is for. I have no doubt that there are places where those with enough money can watch two guys fight to the death if they so desired.
I have traveled a small part of the world, most of this country, was born a hill billy, and decided to return for a reason.
Did I ask a question about TV? (Short term memory loss, lol) What I meant about never getting that far is that I've been all around this country, some places more than once ... except for your part of it, even though I've always felt like I belonged there.
I don't know about that, but we seem to have enough creeps around who'll spill the blood of old ladies and kids to get their gladiator fixes.
TV was for someone else. My memory is porus.
Barack Obama is not a natural born citizen?
#2. To: salemguy (#1)
Obama has posted a picture of his birth certificate on his web site
#3. To: bluegrass (#2)
But he won't produce the original:
#4. To: nikki (#3)
There is a reason he refuses to do so.
#5. To: salemguy (#1)
once again at the extent to which racists
#6. To: bluegrass (#4)
Or if he did, it would prove him to be the liar we all know him to be. That being said, McLame has the same problem with basic honesty.
#7. To: nikki (#6)
Both 'candidates' are IN YOUR FACE abominations.
#8. To: bluegrass (#7)
"In Your Face" is how their masters operate.
#9. To: nikki (#8)
sick soldiers
#10. To: bluegrass (#9)
It's my assumption that operatives like McCain and Obama are either living in a constant state of denial or are sociopaths that don't need the denial mechanism in the first place.
#11. To: nikki (#10)
#12. To: bluegrass (#11)
Since sociopaths are only about 5-10% of the population, most people that are hooked on the McCain/Obama construct are, like their heroes, also in some form of denial about economic and political reality. If true, that means the other 5-10% of their support base are also sociopaths.
#13. To: bluegrass (#2)
"Mr. Berg asserts that if Barack Hussein Obama will produce the above documents and prove his eligibility for the Office of the Presidency, that he (Mr. Berg) will dismiss his lawsuit voluntarily. To date, Obama has refused to produce these documents to Mr. Berg."
#14. To: christine (#5)
Philip Berg is a racist?
#15. To: salemguy (#13)
The Obama document I have seen online
#16. To: nikki (#12)
#17. To: nikki (#3)
#18. To: Sam Houston (#17)
#19. To: bluegrass (#16)
Mental illness is waaaay high. Sociopaths, specifically, are only about 5-10%.
#20. To: bluegrass, nikki (#9)
or are sociopaths that don't need the denial mechanism in the first place.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#21. To: salemguy (#13)
First, anyone born in the US is a US citizen, regardless of where they spent early years or where their parents come from.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#22. To: farmfriend, nikki (#20)
maybe they are just narcissists.
#23. To: bluegrass (#22)
It's hard to tell the narcissists from the sociopaths without a diagram.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#24. To: Sam Houston (#17)
I can't produce my original birth certificate either.
#25. To: farmfriend (#23)
#26. To: farmfriend (#20)
maybe they are just narcissists.
#27. To: bluegrass (#22)
maybe they are just narcissists.
#28. To: bluegrass (#25)
I suspect that Shrub is both also.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#29. To: nikki (#26)
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton.
But through the years, it seems to fit many electeds.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#30. To: farmfriend (#21)
There is evidence to suggest he wasn't born in the US.
#31. To: nikki, bluegrass (#27)
Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#32. To: salemguy (#30)
What is the evidence?
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#33. To: farmfriend (#32)
There is no record at the Hawaian hospitals for one.
#34. To: farmfriend (#32)
His mother flew to Kenya late in her term. She was prevented from returning home by Kenian authorities until after she gave birth.
#35. To: farmfriend (#29)
I remember thinking that was a perfect def of Clinton. I saw several psychiatrists make that assessment, including one I knew personally.
#36. To: farmfriend (#31)
Narcissists are convinced they are the center of the crowd, light of the room and demand others feel the same.
#37. To: nikki (#36)
rather Clinton provided a diversion back to left/right dem/pub divide and conquer red meat politicking.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#38. To: salemguy, farmfriend (#30)
Pray tell, farmfriend, what is that evidence?
#39. To: farmfriend (#37)
Seems almost planned doesn't it?
#40. To: bluegrass, salemguy (#38)
(Edited)
It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#41. To: nikki (#39)
All these actions are telegraphed to us.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#42. To: bluegrass (#38)
Until he's wiling to produce the birth certificate, I ain't buying it. He's the one that's refusing to release it. It's up to him to prove it that he was born here.
#43. To: salemguy, bluegrass (#42)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#44. To: farmfriend (#43)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#45. To: farmfriend (#43)
#46. To: Turtle (#44)
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country and not understand how he did it.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#47. To: nikki (#45)
That emoticon is perfect.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#48. To: farmfriend (#41)
Yes, there is always a trail. This is why "they" work so hard to discredit those who pick up on it. Conspiracy nuts, all of us.
#49. To: salemguy, farmfriend, nikki (#42)
I have no reason to doubt the birth certificate image Obama has posted on his site...
#50. To: Turtle (#44)
Obama is a leftwing buffoon who would destroy this country ....
#51. To: farmfriend, salemguy (#43)
Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#52. To: bluegrass, salemguy (#51)
Please stop this caca. Obama is a great American, and will likely be a great President.
#53. To: Horse (#0)
#54. To: RidinShotgun (#50)
#55. To: christine (#54)
#56. To: bluegrass (#49)
McCain won't release his birth certificate either the last time I checked. He and Obama are equally untrustworthy.
#57. To: Cynicom (#52)
Great Presidents
#58. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#59. To: salemguy (#57)
What I have seen is that he is a brilliant leader, thinker, motivator, manager and decision-maker, and I expect a great presidency.
#60. To: Cynicom (#58)
never met any man in politics that fits the description you have of Obama.
#61. To: bluegrass (#59)
#62. To: bluegrass (#59)
get his nose out of AIPAC's butt?
#63. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
#64. To: Cynicom (#61)
#65. To: salemguy (#62)
#66. To: bluegrass (#63)
(Edited)
#67. To: Cynicom (#66)
#68. To: bluegrass (#59)
Will he get his nose out of AIPAC's butt during his presidency? That he and McCain BOTH kowtow to the same groups, ad nauseum, in their debates rather shows me that Obama is more of the same ol', same ol' dressed up as a "change".
#69. To: bluegrass (#67)
On the other hand, Shirer paticipated in the mass hysteria by pushing the gas chamber claims.
#70. To: wadosy (#68)
practically zero.
#71. To: Cynicom (#69)
Shirer was a Jew.
#72. To: bluegrass (#70)
(Edited)
You're an optimist. : )
#73. To: wadosy (#72)
#74. To: bluegrass (#73)
#75. To: bluegrass (#65)
#76. To: wadosy (#74)
.plus the place was infested with truly ugly characters that were doing nobody any good at all.
#77. To: bluegrass (#76)
I would like to start an LF refugee mailing list or something, though.
#78. To: wadosy (#68)
#79. To: christine (#78)
#80. To: salemguy (#75)
I will step out of this discussion because these are issues I don't understand, in the end.
#81. To: Cynicom (#61)
When I observe people at a political rally, waving and cheering, I wonder if it is me that is lacking something.
#82. To: RidinShotgun (#81)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#83. To: RidinShotgun (#81)
I should feel more embarassed for their lack of self-control than they do.
#84. To: Ferret Mike (#82)
#85. To: Cynicom (#83)
#86. To: RidinShotgun, Ferret Mike (#84)
#87. To: RidinShotgun (#84)
Unfortunately, pictures like that destroy all of mine
#88. To: Cynicom (#86)
#89. To: christine (#87)
the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
#90. To: RidinShotgun, christine (#88)
Roman coliseums are still in style. A fight to the death always gets the blood rushing to some people's tiny brains.
#91. To: christine (#87)
the mindless collective idolization of a politician...
#92. To: bluegrass (#91)
#93. To: RidinShotgun (#88)
Roman coliseums are still in style.
#94. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Cynicom, Jethro Tull, lodwick, 4umers (#82)
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#95. To: Cynicom (#90)
If you were white trash hill billy, I would say you would be a close cuzin to me.
#96. To: bluegrass (#91)
Why is it that the guys that get all of the mindless idolizing are usually corrupt as all hell?
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
#97. To: Esso (#94)
The other 0.1% like me, my mother, Chrissy, Jethro, Cynicom, Lodwick, and several others here don't deserve what's coming.
#98. To: Esso. The Thread (#94)
The only thing that picture proves is that 99.9% of the people of this country are going to get what they deserve.
#99. To: Ferret Mike (#82)
#100. To: bluegrass (#93)
(Edited)
#101. To: RidinShotgun (#100)
Prolly not enough blood drippin'
#102. To: RidinShotgun (#95)
(Edited)
I always aspired to be a hill billy, but never made it quite that far. Is that close enuf for soul cuzins?
#103. To: Cynicom (#102)
What prompted the question about TV?????
#104. To: bluegrass (#101)
I have no doubt that there are places where those with enough money can watch two guys fight to the death if they so desired.
#105. To: RidinShotgun (#103)
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