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Title: Congressman says McCain 'soeing seeds of hatred1'
Source: YAHOO!
URL Source: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081011 ... t=AiosaAmnU5TSfgvR4TgUlpOs0NUE
Published: Oct 11, 2008
Author: News Release
Post Date: 2008-10-11 18:05:59 by Zoroaster
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Views: 352
Comments: 39

Congressman says McCain 'sowing seeds of hatred' 12 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia Democrat and veteran of the civil rights movement, says the negative tone of the Republican presidential campaign reminds him of the hateful atmosphere that segregationist Gov. George Wallace fostered in Alabama in the 1960s.

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Republican candidate John McCain on Saturday called Lewis' remarks "shocking and beyond the pale."

The Obama campaign said the Illinois senator doesn't believe McCain or his policy criticism is at all comparable to Wallace and his segregationist policies.

In a statement issued Saturday, Lewis said McCain and running mate Sarah Palin were "sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse." He noted that Wallace also ran for president.

"George Wallace never threw a bomb. He never fired a gun, but he created the climate and the conditions that encouraged vicious attacks against innocent Americans who were simply trying to exercise their constitutional rights," said Lewis, who is black.

Lewis' remarks follow widely reported examples of anger at McCain rallies that has been aimed at Obama, the first black man to be a major party's nominee for president. McCain himself drew boos at a town-hall meeting Friday in Minnesota when he defended Obama after a supporter said he feared what would happen if Obama were elected president. He also cut short a woman who said Obama was an Arab, and he called his rival "a decent, family man."

On Saturday, McCain called on Obama to repudiate Lewis' remarks. While dismissing the comparison to Wallace, Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said Lewis was on target in other ways.

"John Lewis was right to condemn some of the hateful rhetoric that John McCain himself personally rebuked just last night, as well as the baseless and profoundly irresponsible charges from his own running mate that the Democratic nominee for president of the United States 'pals around with terrorists,'" Burton said in a statement.

McCain rejected any comparison to Wallace.

"I am saddened that John Lewis, a man I've always admired, would make such a brazen and baseless attack on my character and the character of the thousands of hardworking Americans who come to our events to cheer for the kind of reform that will put America on the right track," McCain said.


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McCain isn't worth a hair on George Wallace's ass.

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#1. To: Zoroaster (#0)

Race will decide this election, regardless which way it goes.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   18:07:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zoroaster (#0)

The reason I hate Bush McCain and the Republicans is because they have forced me to agree more often with brothers

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   18:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Cynicom (#1)

No, it won't. It would be decided on the economic meltdown issue if it were not for the electronic voting machines.

We don't have honest elections, so the polls are irrelevant. The only way a Dem -- of whatever race, creed or color -- can win is to have computer hackers as good as those of the GOPers.

This will come down to dueling teams of hackers.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-10-11   18:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#1)

McCain deserves to be remembered as the first white guy in America to lose to a brother

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   18:16:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Sam Houston (#3)

This will come down to dueling teams of hackers.

Stealing elections only works when the final results are fairly close. When they're as lopsided as they are now, stealing the election becomes a very dangerous game. We're already sitting on a powder keg as it is, if the Republicans try to flat out steal this election they had better be ready to put down extremely violent riots in about fifty cities.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-11   18:25:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zoroaster (#0)

Obama, being a leftist, is a hater, as all leftists are haters. And his wife is worse than him.

The stupider people are, the more surprised they are when you kill them.

Turtle  posted on  2008-10-11   18:26:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)

When they're as lopsided as they are now, stealing the election becomes a very dangerous game

And of course you'll depend on the polls the media gives you to throwdown on a fellow American having done nothing but differ with you. Nice little jackboot action there.

You are stirring the pot to get the fight you want for things out of your control.

How smart is that?

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   18:30:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Turtle (#6)

I take it you have not seen that video 'Obession' the right is a equal opportunity offender

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   18:32:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Elliott Jackalope (#5)

Ever heard of Kent State? Firing on innocents? Is that what you are pushing for?

Have we learned nothing, or is that just collateral damage for 'the party'?

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   18:37:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: nikki (#9)

I remember Kent State, but it seems pretty minor in retrospect compared with how many civilians the Empire has murdered abroad. What was it? Four dead in Ohio? I think that was the refrain I recall from Neil Young.

It was four dead per second at the height of the Iraq fiasco, most of them noncombatants. It took A LOT of mindless killing to turn a country which initially welcomed "us" as liberators into developing a large insurgency/resistance.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-10-11   18:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: nikki (#9)

You seem to have me mistaken for an Obama supporter. Allow me to clarify your misperception. I have exactly zero expectations of Obama. None. If he becomes president, it's just going to be a case of "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss". Wall Street will still be in charge, we're still going to be a warmongering empire dedicated to throwing our weight around all over the world, and we're still going to have a full-tilt economic depression over the next few years. McCain or Obama in office is not going to change any of that. However, while I will admit that I have no affection for the Democrats, and am not lifting a finger to support that party or any of their candidates, at the same time I must confess that I have developed a deeply seated animosity for the Republicans. As much as I dislike the Democrats, and by "dislike" I mean to say "could happily dump them all on a desert island and abandon them forever", the Republicans have managed to piss me off beyond description.

This current election is, for me, a lot like watching a drunken brawl between the neighborhood drunk, and the neighborhood child molester. All things considered you'd rather see the drunk win, but in a best case scenario a truck will come around the corner and run them both over.

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-11   18:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Sam Houston (#10)

I remember Kent State, but it seems pretty minor in retrospect compared with how many civilians the Empire has murdered abroad. What was it? Four dead in Ohio? I think that was the refrain I recall from Neil Young.

It was four dead per second at the height of the Iraq fiasco, most of them noncombatants. It took A LOT of mindless killing to turn a country which initially welcomed "us" as liberators into developing a large insurgency/resistance.

You are rather shallow aren't you? There is never an end to evening up the scale, and there never will be unless we decide to stop the idiocy beginning here and now. If you want to tell me that you want Americans murdered, innocents, and that will somehow make you feel that justice has been served, then you are as sick as those that continue the fear agenda.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   18:54:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Elliott Jackalope (#11)

No, I've mistaken you for a human.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   18:55:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Elliott Jackalope (#11)

Could not of said it better.......golf clap!

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   18:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Elliott Jackalope (#11)

Hahahahahaha ... worthy of rant of the day accolades !

noone222  posted on  2008-10-11   18:57:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: nikki (#13)

Oh my, aren't we snippy today?

Look, predicting riots in the case of a blatant theft of an election is NOT either "encouraging" or "condoning" said riots. It's simply a case of using logic to make a prediction, as in "jumping off of that cliff will most likely result in you breaking your bones on the sharp rocks below" or "if you cut the brake lines on that truck and then drive down that steep, twisting mountain road, you are probably going to end up having a major wreck". Understand?

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-11   19:02:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: noone222 (#15)

Hahahahahaha ... worthy of rant of the day accolades !

It's hardly an oddity. Ranting against pubs is the establishments proof that they can still hire bitches to bark at the moon.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:02:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: nikki (#12)

I don't want any more innocent blood shed ANYWHERE. I'm merely pointing out that this country has the blood of millions of innocents on its record books and has stored up a lot of bad karma.

I don't believe in "collective punishment" either, but that's what our military and its private mercenary co-workers have learned well from the Israelis, among others.

What I'd really like to see is the office of President of the United States go vacant for the next four years. In this time of trying new and innovative ways to "kick-start" us out of our misery, economic and otherwise, it couldn't hurt. Things might improve so much that we just do away with the office entirely.

You might say "but that would be unconstitutional," but the current occupant, when told that, always replies "it's just a G-dd-mn piece of paper."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2008-10-11   19:03:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Elliott Jackalope (#16)

Oh my, aren't we snippy today?

Only at party 'tards.

Look, predicting riots in the case of a blatant theft of an election is NOT either "encouraging" or "condoning" said riots. It's simply a case of using logic to make a prediction, as in "jumping off of that cliff will most likely result in you breaking your bones on the sharp rocks below" or "if you cut the brake lines on that truck and then drive down that steep, twisting mountain road, you are probably going to end up having a major wreck". Understand?

You're back peddaling. No, you were quite clear that you were ready to deal with republican voter fraud while not able to draw a bead on who is driving such thinking. You KNOW the outcome of such things, DON'T YOU? Stirring it up tells me that you support a fascist clampdown. For that, we will remain on opposite sides of this delightful game.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: nikki (#19)

For that, we will remain on opposite sides of this delightful game.

"Delightful game"? Hoo boy. You have reminded me of a famous exchange between Nancy Astor and Winston Churchill, where she said "If I were your wife I would put poison in your coffee!" To which Churchill replied "And if I were your husband I would drink it."

Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise.

Elliott Jackalope  posted on  2008-10-11   19:08:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Sam Houston (#18)

Ever hear of the "Business Plot"?

The Business Plot (also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch) was a political conspiracy in 1933 wherein wealthy businessmen and corporations plotted a coup d’état to overthrow United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt. In 1934, the Business Plot was publicly revealed by retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler testifying to the McCormack-Dickstein Congressional Committee. [1] In his testimony, Butler claimed that a group of men had approached him as part of a plot to overthrow Roosevelt in a military coup. One of the alleged plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their final report, the Congressional committee supported Butler's allegations of the existence of the plot,[2] but no prosecutions or further investigations followed, and the matter was mostly forgotten.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_Plot

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   19:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Sam Houston (#18)

don't want any more innocent blood shed ANYWHERE. I'm merely pointing out that this country has the blood of millions of innocents on its record books and has stored up a lot of bad karma.

And to that point we have ZERO disagreement.

I don't believe in "collective punishment" either, but that's what our military and its private mercenary co-workers have learned well from the Israelis, among others.

So? We are to follow that model? Bullshit.

What I'd really like to see is the office of President of the United States go vacant for the next four years. In this time of trying new and innovative ways to "kick-start" us out of our misery, economic and otherwise, it couldn't hurt. Things might improve so much that we just do away with the office entirely.

You might say "but that would be unconstitutional," but the current occupant, when told that, always replies "it's just a G-dd-mn piece of paper."

What we have, IMVHO, is a lack of moral leadership. The worst that can happen is to leave a vaccuum for an even WORSE occupant, but considering the two traitors on the ticket, I could nearly be persuaded to agree. But don't count on it. We DO have better people who are leaders that are qualified in every way to step in and begin the process of repairing and remaking a the way to a more peaceful and FAIR world. All around. There is a total lack of trust, and any that continue to support the status quo are PART OF THE PROBLEM. Sorry, won't budge from that.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Elliott Jackalope (#20)

"Delightful game"? Hoo boy. You have reminded me of a famous exchange between Nancy Astor and Winston Churchill, where she said "If I were your wife I would put poison in your coffee!" To which Churchill replied "And if I were your husband I would drink it."

Ah love.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Sam Houston (#3)

No, it won't

No.

Then I should not accept that nearly 100 per cent of blacks voting for Obama is not a factor????

Like wise if 100 per cent of whites voted McKooK, that would also not be a racial factor?

I would disagree.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   19:13:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robnoel (#4)

McKook was chosen b y the pub "party" and I have to wonder at the voters comprehension.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   19:15:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Cynicom (#25)

On this we agree!

robnoel  posted on  2008-10-11   19:19:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Zoroaster (#0)

In a statement issued Saturday, Lewis said McCain and running mate Sarah Palin were "sowing the seeds of hatred and division, and there is no need for this hostility in our political discourse." He noted that Wallace also ran for president.

Congressman, I remember George Wallace. I loved George Wallace, and unfortunately Juan McCain is no George Wallace.

But you have to love the way the 'gros in congress are stirring the pot.

Load and lock.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-11   19:22:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: robnoel (#26)

On this we agree!

Dont you just hate that?????

We agree on most things, I should just stop zinging you.

Beyond that.

I am amused and in turn frustrated by people that argue about this crew running in this election. Arguing who is qualified, who is not, on and on, endlessly.

Tiring and sickening. Doing as they were trained. Sad.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   19:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Cynicom (#28)

Arguing who is qualified, who is not, on and on, endlessly.

Tiring and sickening. Doing as they were trained. Sad.

You'd think people were smart enough to know they were being used to distract from larger issues and stir up those less enlightened than themselves.

No, even radio hosts are in on the plot to call down the fascist state. When the shooting starts, I bet they have front row seats and tickets for their little friends. Listen to them direct hatred towards the weak. They have jobs to keep you see.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:31:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: All (#27)

As the nation is spent into oblivion, as our congress turns it's back on FMae and FMac because of their political status, the distinguished Negro from Georgia uses precious House time to pimp for new hate speech law.

Rope.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-11   19:33:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: nikki (#29)

You'd think people were smart enough to know they were being used to distract from larger issues and stir up those less enlightened than themselves.

Keep the sheep busy, distracted, easy grazing, while you advertise cheap leg of lamb for sale.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   19:35:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Jethro Tull, nikki (#30)

Jethro...

Benjamin Tillman rides again, Hi Yo Silver, on a white horse.

We have no Tillmans in Congress, no one that is looking out for this country and its people.

Cynicom  posted on  2008-10-11   19:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Cynicom (#32)

We have no Tillmans in Congress, no one that is looking out for this country and its people.

Cyni, I'm no optimist, but I firmly believe Obingo will be the uniter Bush was advertised to be. I don't see a Tillman on the horizon, but someone will emerge. It's that or whither on the vine.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-11   19:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Cynicom (#31)

Keep the sheep busy, distracted, easy grazing, while you advertise cheap leg of lamb for sale.

Time to turn eyes on the sheepherder.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

You think the right Rev. Wright is skeered?

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   19:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: nikki (#22)

We DO have better people who are leaders that are qualified in every way to step in and begin the process of repairing and remaking a the way to a more peaceful and FAIR world.

We are the problem. We must change our ways, though blaming the so-called leadership every 4 years does give us a little wiggle room.

All of the wars, the murder, and other shit are funded by us.

No Good Man can be compelled to violate his conscience. Should a Man violate his own conscience he is no longer good.

ALL of the wannabe leaders are compromised, and have forfeited the ability to lead.

noone222  posted on  2008-10-11   21:14:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: noone222 (#36)

We are the problem. We must change our ways,

That is a fact. Further, if we do not, choices will be made for us permanently.

No Good Man can be compelled to violate his conscience. Should a Man violate his own conscience he is no longer good.

Another fact.

ALL of the wannabe leaders are compromised, and have forfeited the ability to lead.

Agreed. But someone will be (and probably already has been) chosen for the job.

Arguing about this at 4 should be outlawed. People should know this by now.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-11   22:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: robnoel (#2)

The reason I hate Bush McCain and the Republicans is because they have forced me to agree more often with brothers

Man!

Ya know you are in revolutionary times when.......

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2008-10-11   22:42:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#33)

Cyni, I'm no optimist, but I firmly believe Obingo will be the uniter Bush was advertised to be. I don't see a Tillman on the horizon, but someone will emerge. It's that or whither on the vine.

It's quite possible Bushy the Elder laid down so the sex fiend could win the White in 1992 and get NAFTA through Congress. Shortly after McSwein met with Bushy the Elder, he miraculously won the tre War Party's presidential nomination. Did the guys behind the curtain need a straw-man so Black Obama could win the White House? McSwein may be playing the same role Dole did in the 1996 presidential election?

Life is a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think.

Zoroaster  posted on  2008-10-13   8:31:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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