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Title: Why I Left Organized Christendom – and Why I Joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses
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Published: Oct 12, 2008
Author: Richard and Various
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Why I Left Organized Christendom – and Why I Joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses Matthew 7:13, 14; “Go in through the narrow gate; because broad and spacious is the road leading off into destruction, and many are the ones going in through it; 14 whereas narrow is the gate and cramped the road leading off into life, and few are the ones finding it. I started reading the Bible more than 20 years ago, alone. Why alone? Because I simply did not know of anyone who actually read the Bible. I was raised a Roman Catholic; they certainly do not read the Bible! Others claim to, but everything that I saw in the organized churches of Christendom were but a reflection of the Roman Catholic church. So I started reading a Bible that had been given me by a friend. That Bible, which I still use to some extent, was a King James Study Bible, and, when I found the Scripture above, it opened my eyes further and started me on a life long quest; I have no wish to be like everyone else. Never have had. In the King James; Matthew 7:13, 14; Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. You will note how the two translations harmonize. Most of the Bibles harmonize; it is just that you must take more care in understanding some because the meanings are harder to decipher. Perhaps this is deliberate; most all translators of the Holy Scriptures into English have been Trinitarians. More on this in just a moment. Just before I read Matthew 7:13 the first time, I found this in the King James Bible; Jeremiah 10:2, ; Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. … I probably do not need to transcribe these verses for you from another Bible; all of them are basically the same. After I read this, I had to go back and read it several more times over a period of time, just to be sure that it said everything that I thought it did. No Christmas tree?! Where did this come from? Perhaps the better question was… where did Christmas come from? But it took me a couple of years to get to that question. After I reached that point, it did not take me long to find the answers. In any search engine, just type in Nimrod and Christmas. www.xanga.com/Babylon_The_Great/554683845/item.html I am not going to go into great detail, because most of you have seen all of this information before! However, unlike myself, you permit yourself to serve yourself instead of putting the wishes of Jehovah FIRST. "Nimrod started the great organized worldly apostasy from God that has dominated this world until now. Nimrod married his own mother, whose name was Semiramis. After Nimrod's death, his so-called mother-wife, Semiramis, propagated the evil doctrine of the survival of Nimrod as a spirit being. She claimed a full-grown evergreen tree sprang overnight from a dead tree stump, which symbolized the springing forth unto new life of the dead Nimrod. On each anniversary of his birth, she claimed, Nimrod would visit the evergreen tree and leave gifts upon it. December 25th, was the birthday of Nimrod. This is the real origin of the Christmas tree." -The Plain Truth About Christmas by David J. Stewart | December 24th, 2005 "Traditionally, a yule log was burned in the fireplace on Christmas Eve and during the night as the log's embers died, there appeared in the room, as if by magic, a Christmas tree surrounded by gifts. The yule log represented the sun-god Nimrod and the Christmas tree represented himself resurrected as his own son Tammuz." --After Armageddon -Chapter 4 -- Where do we get our ideas? by John A. Sarkett Now, let me see, what does organized Christendom have to say about Christmas? kingskidstuff.home.att.net/christmas.htm “But God gave the greatest gift ever given - himself, that very first Christmas.” Aimed directly at children; how interesting. Why bother posting more? Just type Christian Christmas into any search engine and read all that you wish to. But all of you know this, yet you insist on doing that which is clearly forbidden. Just as does all apostate Christendom. Is there more? Easter. Just type in pagan Easter. Interesting. First site up; Santeria Wiccans. Next site up: Would Jesus Keep Easter? Order Free Book Get free book with true story of Easter bunny, colored eggs & Jesus. The short answer to the above is, no. altreligion.about.com/cs/alchemy/a/mpreviss.htm In second century Europe, the predominate spring festival was a raucous Saxon fertility celebration in honor of the Saxon Goddess Eastre (Ostara), whose sacred animal was a hare. The colored eggs associated with the bunny are of another, even more ancient origin. The eggs associated with this and other Vernal festivals have been symbols of rebirth and fertility for so long the precise roots of the tradition are unknown, and may date to the beginning of human civilization. Ancient Romans and Greeks used eggs as symbols of fertility, rebirth, and abundance- eggs were solar symbols, and figured in the festivals of numerous resurrected gods. Just type in Easter and pagan into any search engine and read all about it. I stopped this non-sense, fast, once I caught on. This is what real Christians do. BUT but but!!! My family!! Matthew 10: 34, 35; Do not think that I came to put peace upon the earth; I came to put, not peace, but a sword. 35 For I came to cause division, with a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a young wife against her mother-in-law. All of you in organized Christendom, AND YOUR CHURCHES, celebrate Easter; you go along to get along. I do not. Neither do the Jehovah’s Witnesses. I like them for that! And I wish to make something perfectly clear here; I knew all of this long, long before I met my first Jehovah’s Witness. LONG BEFORE. And I stopped all of the non-sense, as best I could, long before as well. Eventually, where did all of this take me? The Roman Catholic Church -- Examined Historically and Biblically cdelph.org/catholic.html#false FALSE DOCTRINES WHICH UNITE THE CHURCHES WITH ROME TIME OUT! Read the above sentance a couple of times and understand what it says!! Unites the churches (of Christendom) with Rome. 2. THE DOCTRINE OF THE TRINITY. Belief in a triune God - a God that is both one and three - is opposed to reason and the clear declaration of Scripture (Mark 12:29; 1 Corinthians 8:6). It was included in church teaching about 300 years after the death of Christ, and from Rome has found its way into the beliefs of nearly all communities of Christendom. The HOLY SPIRIT is the power of God, a divine energy by which He fills all space and creates and sustains all things: Luke 1:35, Psalm 51:12, 104:30, 139:7-12, Acts 17:27-28. The Holy Spirit is NOT A PERSON, but the "one spirit" of God used for special purposes: miracles, signs and wonders: Acts 2:1-4. MAN is a mortal creature whose consciousness utterly ceases at death, and, therefore, renewed life can come only through a bodily resurrection. Genesis 3:19, Ezekiel 18:4, Psalm 6:5, Ecclesiastes 3:18-19, 9:5-6, Isaiah 38:18-19, 1 Corinthians 15:13-21, John 5:28-29, Daniel 12:2. The above is a pretty good site. I have found only a couple of things in it that are not correct, according to my understanding of the Bible, but overall, much superior to anything taught in apostate Christendom. Everything taught in the Roman Catholic church comes from tradition. Mark 7:13; (Jesus Christ speaking) and thus you make the word of God invalid by your tradition which you handed down. And many things similar to this you do. Colossians 2:8; Look out: perhaps there may be someone who will carry you off as his prey through the philosophy and empty deception according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary things of the world and not according to Christ; Matthew 15:2; (Pharisees and scribes speaking to Jesus Christ) “Why is it your disciples overstep the tradition of the men of former times? 3 In reply he said to them: “Why is it you also overstep the commandment of God because of your tradition?” Now, what does the Roman church say about the so-called Christian churches of Christendom? www.the-ten-commandments....olic-tencommandments.html “It was the Catholic church which…has transferred this rest to Sunday in remembrance of the resurrection of our Lord. Therefore the observance of Sunday by the Protestants is an homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the (Catholic) church.” — Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk About the Protestantism of Today, p. 213. The same is said by the Roman church about the so-called Protestants (apostate Christendom) for their following of any of the dogma and tradition of the Roman church; they are our daughters for the homage they pay to us. www.catholicfirst.com/the...hurchdocuments/dogmas.cfm Dogmas of the Catholic Church Positive Foundation of the Dogma of the Trinity The Trinity came from the Roman Catholic church. Period. I have posted all of the details about this before. If you are a Trinitarian, essentially, you are a Roman Catholic, and this is the opinion of the Roman Catholic church, not mine. People here in the 4um have told me that the Trinity is… a mystery. No one understands it, but… we have to believe it. WHY? There are no mysteries in the Bible. Jesus Christ himself said that he said nothing in secret! ALL WAS REVEALED. The problem is, you have to do the work, the study, and the reading, in order to gain understanding. I cleansed myself of the Trinity beliefs long before I met my first Witness. Just by reading the Bible on my own, and, trusting the Bible that I was reading; a King James Bible. THAT, is the big difference between all of you, and all Jehovah’s Witnesses (including myself). They read the Bible EVERY day. And you claim that they are confused? How dare you. Remember this verse? I have posted it often enough; John 17:3; This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ. What do you suppose it means? How about this; John 15:19; If you were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because you are no part of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, on this account the world hates you. Everything that you all hold so dear comes from the world. Christmas, Easter, all of the holy days set up by the Roman church, the traditions that all of you hold so dear, and you do not understand? Is eternal life that valueless to you?! That you can not do your own study to learn?! Answer me this; why does the world hate Jehovah’s Witnesses?! But loves the Catholics, Baptists and all apostate Christendom? Luke 13; 24, 27; Exert yourselves vigorously to get in through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will seek to get in but will not be able, 25 when once the householder has got up and locked the door, and you start to stand outside and to knock at the door, saying, ‘Sir, open to us.’ But in answer he will say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from.’ 26 Then you will start saying, ‘We ate and drank in front of you, and you taught in our broad ways.’ 27 But he will speak and say to you, ‘I do not know where you are from. Get away from me, all you workers of unrighteousness.!’ I left the world long ago. I joined the Jehovah’s Witnesses because they are the only group I have found that closely follow the teachings of the Bible; organized apostate Christendom DOES NOT. Not even remotely, which each of you would understand (and honestly, probably do) if you but did the due diligence necessary to learn. The choice is yours; study, or accept the second death, which is in the lake of fire. A NOTE; I COULD CONTINUE THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, JUST LISTING THE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG IN CHRISTENDOM, SUCH AS BLOOD. WHY? EITHER YOU WILL CHOSE TO STUDY, OR, YOU WILL NOT. THAT CHOICE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Jehovah God DOES NOT require it. But His promises are dependent upon it.
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#37. To: christine (#28)
Just do like I do, answer the door naked. They never come back.
I shall not vote for evil, lesser or otherwise.
I wonder if you understand that justice delivers life, and that the state is anti-life.
Did you know that the fable of Noah's ark is a rewrite of an earlier legend called the Epic of Gilgamesh, written in Sumerian times? Here's a verse from the Sumerian text; ‘O man of Shuruppak, son of Ubartutu: Tear down the house and build a boat! Abandon wealth and seek living beings! Spurn possessions and keep alive living beings! Make all living beings go up into the boat. The boat which you are to build, its dimensions must measure equal to each other: its length must correspond to its width.’
The quote phrase reminded me of General Jack D. Ripper's litany about preserving America's precious bodily fluids. I have to laugh that anyone is insane enough to talk like that about progeny purity. And I don't worship any candidate, I just plan to vote for one, as is my perogerative to do.
Have you SEEN Christine's profile pic? Good grief, if she were to answer the door naked she'd NEVER be rid of the little buggers. Now, if I were to answer the door naked, sure, they'd flee in terror. But then they'd probably sue me for emotional distress and damages for mental torment.
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#33)
#39. To: richard9151 (#25)
Noah said, FLEE! PLEASE! No one listened. All died, including countless children
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: Original_Intent (#35)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#41. To: Critter (#37)
(Edited)
Just do like I do, answer the door naked. They never come back.
 | Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#42. To: Peter Carswell (#38)
And I wonder if you know you make as much sense here as Byeltsin does on LibertyPost.Org does with his Haiku style postings.
"I wonder if you understand that justice delivers life, and that the state is anti-life."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#43. To: Ferret Mike (#42)
Do you think the statists are divinely-inspired?
#44. To: Ferret Mike (#42)
When is your hero monkey boy obama going to release his birth certificate? His medical records? His educational records? We're waiting
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#45. To: Ferret Mike (#42)
Umm... Byeltsin doesn't speak in Haiku, it's more like someone on acid transcribing psychiatric journals written in bad Japanese by passive aggressive steampunk cosplayers. PURPOSE! But NOT! Whereas the POINT were, therefore, nothing taken towards GOALS! Goals defined by MEANINGS beyond the ability of uncaring dogs to LAY! WHYSO? Because of MENTION that was TAKEN to BE by superior intellects! Be AMAZED! Ow... now my head hurts.
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#46. To: Flintlock (#44)
Go fuck yourself.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#47. To: Elliott Jackalope (#45)
Heh, I know what you mean. Trying to interpret his posts is often as pointless as trying to work out Pi to the last digit. ;-)
"Ow... now my head hurts."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#48. To: Peter Carswell (#43)
We have a government run by imperfect. flawed human beings. Something that is true of anything in the world of human society. We are very smart primates, and animals. We are not the apex of creation, we are apes, a species of chimpanzee. You have to understand I am of Wicca, and do not operate under the same sort of religious paradigm as you. Therefore, I am amused by your viewpoint and theories here, but we both have far different foundational belief about what life is, what happens after death, and why I believe all life is equally important, not just that which is human.
"Do you think the statists are divinely-inspired?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#46)
It looks like I touched a nerve. Again, I ask you. When is Barry Soetoro aka: Barak Obama going to release his: Birth Certificate? Passport & Travel Records? Medical Records? Educational Records?
Go fuck yourself.
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#50. To: Flintlock (#49)
You missed that part of your spew I will have no truck with. I am not a racist like you are. If you had left the racist sentiment out, I would have answered far differently. Got it?
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#51. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
For the record, I think non-human life is valuable only to the extent that it is good for people. You're entitled to think otherwise, but you're not entitled to initiate force against people, even if you have an election ritual beforehand.
"I believe all life is equally important, not just that which is human."
#52. To: Ferret Mike (#50)
weseal You sound like Bevis & Butthead Answer the questions, they're easy. When is your hero Barry Soetoro aka: Barack Obama going to produce a birth certificate? I know where mine is. why can't he find his? When is he going to release his medical, educational & travel records? Come on weasel, it's not that hard...unless he's hiding something
racist Blah, blah, blah...... Ha, ha, HA
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#53. To: Peter Carswell (#51)
i wonder... if humans are the product of millions of years of an ecosystem's trial and error ... i guess what we gots to do here is exterminate every species that's potentially hostile to humans, and nevermind the fact that humanity is too stupid to realize that it's a product of its environment... too stupid to realize that human activities that degrade that environment will degrade the planet's capacity to sustain life, human and otherwise. good enough
For the record, I think non-human life is valuable only to the extent that it is good for people.
#54. To: wadosy (#53) (Edited)
You think so? Then who you gonna call?
"humanity is too stupid to realize ... that human activities that degrade that environment will degrade the planet's capacity to sustain life"
#55. To: Peter Carswell (#54)
ghostbusters?
#56. To: Peter Carswell (#54)
you dont seem to realize that everybody's got their own little brand of ghost that's supposed to deliver them from human folly. somebody's ghost has gots to be wrong.
#57. To: Peter Carswell (#51)
I believe strongly in Deep Ecology; that all life has a right to exist for the value and worth it has to itself. Humans are too arrogant and quick to strip this inalienable right all life has from it in their obsession to instrumentalize everything into a dollar. Now as to your other statement concerning force, I am not a mind reader. Perhaps you have a Calvin Coolidge-like passion to strip your verbiage down to the bare bones, but unless you give enough content to it, it is hard to respond to some parts of your posts.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#58. To: Flintlock (#52)
Then get your hands out of that pants pocket and stop playing with yourself.
"it's not that hard..."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#59. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
I believe that all life is sacred so long as it remains in a submissive posture and does absolutely nothing whatsoever to annoy me in any way. But the MOMENT one of those critters buzzes me or takes a stroll across my cornflakes, it's TOAST. It's like the deal I have with the spiders around here: Outside is YOUR home, inside is MY home. I'll leave you alone outside, but you put one hairy leg inside my house, and I reserve the right to do the fandango on your squishy little carcass. It works for me.
| Gold and silver are REAL money, paper is but a promise. |
#60. To: wadosy (#56)
That's why I don't like statism. We're all stuck with a "ghost" that keeps stealing our money. I'm saying that you pay for your "ghost" and I'll pay for mine.
"somebody's ghost has gots to be wrong"
#61. To: Peter Carswell (#60)
no amount of your libertarian mumbo jumbo is gonna make up for the fact that humanity is damaging the planet and harming the planet's capacity to sustain life. no amount of ghastly randish saviors will deliver your grandkids from your sins.
#62. To: Ferret Mike (#57)
You can spend your money to protect non-human life. But don't use that as an excuse to tax and legislate other people.
"Humans are too arrogant and quick to strip this inalienable right all life has from it"
#63. To: wadosy (#61)
And again, who you gonna call?
"humanity is damaging the planet and harming the planet's capacity to sustain life"
#64. To: Peter Carswell (#63)
*sigh* i guess i gotta call ghostbusters... once they rid the planet of such convenient excuses for brutalizing the planet, maybe humanity will have a chance of surviving.
#65. To: Ferret Mike (#58)
weasel You keep trying to change the subject,and evade the questions. You know Barry Soetoro aka: obama is not eligible to be on the ballot. Why won't he release his birth certificate? The American people have a right to see it!
stop playing with yourself. (Bevis & Butthead laughing in the background)
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
#66. To: Peter Carswell (#63) (Edited)
on the other hand, maybe i'll consult genetic engineers. all my grandchildren need is a few cockroach genes, and they oughta do just fine.
And again, who you gonna call?
#67. To: Elliott Jackalope (#59)
It's like the deal I have with the spiders around here: Outside is YOUR home, inside is MY home. I'll leave you alone outside, but you put one hairy leg inside my house, and I reserve the right to do the fandango on your squishy little carcass. It works for me. laughing...
But the MOMENT one of those critters buzzes me or takes a stroll across my cornflakes, it's TOAST.
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#68. To: Ferret Mike (#30)
mine was a joke. ;)
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
#69. To: wadosy (#64)
You don't seem to want to say it, but don't you want to sic the dogs of the state on us?
"i guess i gotta call ghostbusters... "
#70. To: Peter Carswell (#69)
you seem to be too dense to realize, from your exalted position as libertarian party kommissar, that i'm completely aware that "states" have got us into this fiasco. you'll have to pardon me if i've decided against "statist" solutions, which is why i'm writing so many letters of inquiry to genetic engineers. . meanwhile, we're all pulling for a libertarian solution to the peak oil problem, as it becomes more and more obvious that jesus seems to be incapable of producing oil.
You don't seem to want to say it, but don't you want to sic the dogs of the state on us?
#71. To: Peter Carswell (#69)
too bad chevys dont run on fishes and loaves.
#72. To: Flintlock (#65) (Edited)
My son is half white, half black; if you called him what you refered Barack Obama as to his and or my face, I'd rip yours' off that thick skull/bone wart on your shoulders and stick the skin of your visage on a nearby pane of glass. Now, what part of I do not like your racism do you not understand? Predicate a comment or question with the trapping of it, it gets zero response from me. It then deserves none. Now that is spelled out, I'm done period, with any more responses to you.
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#73. To: wadosy (#70)
"chevys dont run on fishes and loaves" Ok so we're both going for market solutions. Well why didn't you say so? :) As for fuel, I really want to investigate water (hydrogen) cars further. Do you know anything about that? Even though I think "peak oil" is a scam, maybe it isn't going to matter very much.
"i've decided against "statist" solutions"
#74. To: Peter Carswell (#73) (Edited)
as far as i can tell, there's nothing in the pipeline to replace petroleum. it's a matter of EROEI, which is "energy returned on energy invested". there's no denying that giant fields like saudi's ghawar are not being discovered. there's no denying that we're using maybe three or four times as much oil as we're discovering. there's no denying, despite the fact that america was the world's biggest oil producer and had the most expertise, technology and bankroll, american oil production peaked in 1970. . in a couple centuries, we've used sunlight that's taken millions of years to accumulate.. . the worst thing about it, the actions of governments, worldwide, make the most sense in the context of peak oil.
#75. To: Peter Carswell (#73) (Edited)
you gotta wonder why the la times lets posts like this survive... crashing the stock market seems counterproductive, unless you're in position to loot like the oligarchs looted the soviet union as it collapsed, but maybe that's all that's left... looting... anyhow, there's no doubt that america will suffer a massive readjustment of its way of life even though "the american way of life is not negotiable". yawn. it just gets tiresome as the powers-that-be resort to all these shenanigans in an effort to disguise the fact that their "new pearl harbor", a pretext to start the oil acquisition project, was their response to peak oil. it would have been so much simpler had they told everyone the truth right from the beginning, starting in maybe 1970, when american oil production peaked, despite the best tech, the best experts, and the biggest bankrolls... ...but now it's too late to tell the truth, isnt it...? ...because if the powers-that-be acknowledged the cause of these problems, they'd make it easier for common people to connect the dots... peak oil to 9/11 to the "war on terror". ho hum . . "The over-riding issue worldwide is that we are addressing symptoms rather than problems..." uh huh. the problem is: global crude oil production has been flat for the last four years, and all these shenanigans, starting with 9/11, have been the response to that problem. the oil acquisition project ---aka PNAC--- is failing. that project was intended, in the best of all neocon worlds, to acquire control of the world's oil, most especially the oil in the middle east, caspian and central asian regions... ...not forgetting, of course, that israeli russians were still controlling russian energy and pipelines when the project kickoff party ---aka 9/11--- was staged, and those oily israeli russians were most likely part of the PNAC plan. so everything was set up, but then putin queered the whole deal by doublecrossing the oligarchs like gusinsky, berezovsky and khodorkovsky... at which point the israeli americans of PNAC/AEI and the israeli american media went nuts with condemnations of putin, condemnations that will supposedly lead to regime change (at best) or a nuke first strike (at worst) in russia, restoring israeli russians, most of whom fled to israel, to control of russian energy. google: "nuclear primacy" and "full spectrum dominance" in the meantime, though, global oil production has stagnated despite a massive increase in drills---and as oil prices rocketed to nearly $150 a barrel, it was becoming painfully obvious to everyone that something was haywire with the oil situation. so what to do? well, it's just so awfully convenient that GM, in the guise of its Ditech subsidiary, convinced americans that the housing market was going to the moon, the fed lowered interest rates, and housing was sold to people who really could only afford a bicycle and a cat. propinquity abounded, especially when it came time to crash the global economy to disguise the fact that oil production is on its way down, there's no viable alternative yet devised, and that's what caused our heroic leaders to do the 9/11 caper. well, so what? the main thing is: the right guys are still in position to loot their doggy asses off, if it comes to that, not to mention the fact that the american way of life, negotiable or not, is doomed because it's been built from the ground up on cheap oil. as far as i can tell, none of the above is my fault. the oil acquisition project seems to be stalled, and absent another "catastrophic and catalyzing event... like a new pearl harbor", it seems unlikely to get back on schedule.
#76. To: christine (#28)
That'd be even more annoying as they'd try to 'save' you. : )
how would they like it if i knocked on their doors sans invitation and preached wiccan? ;P
#77. To: richard9151 (#1)
some random thoughts... Jeremiah 10:2, ; Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them. 3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe. 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. 5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. … I probably do not need to transcribe these verses for you from another Bible; all of them are basically the same. After I read this, I had to go back and read it several more times over a period of time, just to be sure that it said everything that I thought it did. No Christmas tree?! Where did this come from? I agree the way we celebrate Christmas has pagan roots, HOWEVER, I don't expect my Christmas tree [when I have one] to TALK, nor do I expect it to "go", and I don't "bear it" anywhere. Once I set it up, it's pretty stationary until I take it down. God wasn't talking about CHRISTMAS TREES. He was talking about wooden IDOLS, such as those the antichrist heathens of the City of London continue to carry around today: "Gog and Magog Magog in the Guildhall The statues of Gog and Magog currently standing in the Guildhall were commissioned from sculptor David Evans by Alderman Sir George Wilkinson, who was Lord Mayor when the previous versions were destroyed in the Blitz. The phoenix shield tells us that this is Magog. The previous statues stood for over two hundred years. ****They were carved by Captain Richard Saunders in 1708 to replace older wicker-and-plaster statues that had succumbed first to fire and then to rats and mice. Gog and Magog In 2006 the original wicker Gog and Magog finally returned to the Lord Mayor's Procession, thanks to months of hard work by the Company of Basketmakers. Towards the head of the procession you will see two stern but benevolent wicker giants. They are Gog and Magog, the traditional guardians of the City of London, and they have been carried in the Lord Mayor’s Show since the reign of Henry V. Gog and Magog, or sometimes Gogmagog and Corineus, are descended from the pagan giants of early English pageantry and their origins lie in ancient legends of Britain’s beginning........ Our giants have no trace of the supernatural about them. They come from folk custom, deriving their names from pseudo-historical characters like Gogmagog, from Biblical history like Samson, or from classical mythology like Hercules. They are a part of a tradition in English pageantry which **** pre-dates Christianity. The custom of carrying effigies and images at festivals is sometimes explained as an echo of the days when the same festival would have revolved around a human sacrifice. The victim was replaced with a symbolic representation, and as the old rites were incorporated into the Church, the sacrificial effigy came to represent the saint whose sacrifice was being celebrated. Whatever one thinks of this theory, the custom of carrying effigies at festivals was widespread in the middle ages both in England but on the continent, and the giants of pre-christian mythology were among them. The huge figures that you will see on the day of the Lord Mayor’s Show are just the latest versions of pagan effigies that go back thousands of years........" www.lordmayorsshow.org/visitors/history/gogmagog "....they speak not and need to be borne...." Now where did this JW particular objection to Christmas originate do you suppose. [And remember, Cornwallis told George Washington: A HOLY WAR will now begin against America. She will think she is free, but HER CHURCHES WOULD BE USED TO TEACH THE JEWS' RELIGION, and she would be working toward divine government which is the (Judeo) British (see: http://www.asis.com/users/stag/royalty.html ) Empire. This is important, because THIS is the hidden hand we have been fighting for over 400 years in this country. (Genesis 15:13-14/Galatians 3:16-29/Psalm 2 ..... AMERICA is ISRAEL. http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm) It is so important I am going to quote it all again:] "....British Israelism is his grand design. far back the plot to take America with the Kingdom Message has been organized. It is certain that Senator Joseph McCarthy did much research on the Communist conspiracy. He came too close when he discovered British Israel and its Kingdom Message propaganda. The following quotes are from an article with the title: GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER: "And many of the people of the land became Jews." Esther 9:17. "The confession of General Cornwallis to General Washington at Yorktown has been well hidden by historians. History books and text books have taught for years that when Cornwallis surrendered his army to General Washington that American independence came, and we lived happily ever after until the tribulations of the twentieth century." "Jonathan Williams recorded in his LEGIONS OF SATAN, 1781, that Cornwallis revealed to Washington that "a holy war will now begin on America, and when it is ended America will be supposedly the citadel of freedom, but her millions will unknowingly be loyal subjects to the Crown." Cornwallis went on to explain what would seem to be a self contradiction: "Your churches will be used to teach the Jew's religion and in less than two hundred years the whole nation will be working for divine world government. That government that they believe to be divine will be the British Empire. All religions will be permeated with Judaism without even being noticed by the masses, and they will all be under the invisible all-seeing eye of the Grand Architect of Freemasonry." And indeed George Washington himself was a Mason, and he gave back through a false religion what he had won with his army. "Cornwallis well knew that his military defeat was only the beginning of world catastrophe that would be universal and that unrest would continue until mind control could be accomplished through a false religion. What he predicted has come to pass. A brief sketch of American religious history and we have seen Masonry infused into every church in America With their veiled Phallic religion. "Darby and the Plymouth Brethren brought a Jewish Christianity to America. Masons Rutherford and Russell started Jehovah Witnesses' Judaism which is now worldwide with their message of the divine kingdom. Mason Joseph Smith started Mormon Judaism with its Jewish teaching of *** millennialism. "At the turn of the twentieth century there appeared the Scofield Bible with a Jewish interpretation of the prophecies. With wide use of this "helpful" aid all the American churches have silently become synagogues. We now have Baptist Jews, Methodist Jews, Church of God Jews, apostate Catholic Jews, and many Protestant Jews throughout America. We are aliens in our own country because of false religion. All are praying for divine deliverance into that "Divine Government" which Cornwallis knew to be the British Empire. "A false religion has been used to deceive us into allegiance to our enemies of Yorktown and Bunker Hill. No! Not a gun has been fired but the invisible and malignant process of conquering America with the Jew's religion has gone on unabated. The Union Jack has been planted in our hearts with religious deception. All has happened "legally," "constitutionally," "freely" and completely within our most sacred trust -- our churches. Religious deception is painless innoculation against truth. It cannot be removed from the conscience with surgery, yet it is the motivator of our actions and directly controls our lives. Once man gives over to false religion, he is no longer rational because he originates no thought. His life is controlled by whomever controls his religion. "The veil of false religion is the sword of Damocles and its power to control humanity defies even the imagination of tyrants who use it." "This is not to say that George Washington was a traitor willingly, or knowingly. He was beguiled into a Satanic religious order that insidiously controls men's minds. So have American statesmen and military leaders down through the years given aid and allegiance to the enemies of the United States because they did not have knowledge of the invisible subterfuge that stalks this land. My eyes were opened the day my colleague from Ohio handed me Wagner's FREEMASONRY AN INTERPRETATION. If every American would read it, they would no longer ask why and how it has happened." Given by Senator Joseph McCarthy, six months before his mouth was closed forever. End of quote from GEORGE WASHINGTON'S SURRENDER. ....." THIS ARTICLE STARTS OUT THUS: "The Union Jack by Helen Peters ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ EPILOGUE The Watchtower Society, better known as Jehovah's Witnesses, is a massive international movement and an important crypto- Jewish cult in the spread of the kingdom message. In their issue of AWAKE on October 8, 1971, page 23 under title The Barrier of Nationalism Removed, we read this statement: "God's kingdom will forever remove the barrier of nationalism; people of all races will live in peace under one government." End of quote. This is the purpose of all kingdom cults to remove the barrier of nationalism by teaching a false religion which promotes World Government. Is this not Communism? Fear hysteria is used constantly to drive humanity to a state of mind which causes them to desire the relief which is promised by the kingdom cults in their kingdom message. In the same Jehovah's Witnesses publication named above they play up the propaganda of crime, sickness, poverty, pollution, drug abuse, overpopulation and famine. All this is the big lie to bring us to expect a state of collapse at any time. This fear hysteria neutralizes us with a feeling of hopelessness. When one is under the influence of this propaganda, he stops doing anything constructive. No one ever does anything constructive while fearing an imminent crisis whether real or imagined. In this state of mind one would not plant a rose for fear he would never see it bloom. Our country is a haven for artificially induced public hysterias. A crisis is created out of thin air such as pollution or overpopulation and people are herded like cattle this way and that, always against their best interest. A case in point is Ralph Nader's consumerism which he builds on created myths and which has caused a higher cost of living for the consumer without any added benefits. A new publication by a British Israel Identity group called CHRISTIAN VANGUARD is off on Jew-bait as one would expect. In their issue #12 they attack the books THE UNION JACK and SPIRITUAL COMMUNISM. On page six they made this revealing statement, quote: "To wreck both conservative and Identity movements they had to find a tie to link them together. That tie was in the almost universal belief, by ALMOST ALL PROTESTANT ORGANIZATIONS, that Christ will return to earth to rule physically for 1,000 years." "Although there was no other point of similarity between 'conservatives' and the Identity movement, they found this one 'link.'" End of quote. This one "link" is all important because it not only ties in the conservative and Identity Movements, it links them with the Jew's religion which the Identity people promote as the Kingdom Message. The Identity people are bastard offspring of Judaism because their belief in the earthly kingdom is Judaism. ........" http://www.sweetliberty.org/issues/hoax/unionjack_epilogue.htm I agree with this author that Jehovah's Witness is a crypto-Judeo-Masonic organization. However, I disagree with her contention that God is not building His kingdom on earth. He most certainly is [BUT IT WON'T BE UNDER ANTICHRIST JEWS OR MEROVINGIAN "DIVINE RIGHT TO RULE" KINGS, OR THEIR APOSTATE "JUDEO-CHRISTIAN" RELIGION], but I DO agree the "1,000" years bit the JUDEO-Christian churches believe in is a crock. This is a dangerous heresy that ranks right up with there with, and supports, the "rapture". We are living in the so-called "millennium" right now, and have been since the resurrection and God destroyed the Jews' kingdom, and turned it over to His saints. [I started a post on that subject yesterday, and will see if I can find it in these 113 windows.] Back to where this particular objection to Christmas REALLY came from: Why don't jews celebrate xmas? - Yahoo! Answers 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, ... http://www.noahide.com/infiltration/xmas... .... answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071005213253AArlJEc [NOTE THE NOAHIDE ADDRESS] CHRISTMAS AND PAGANISM - The Tamar Yonah Show - Blogs - Arutz Sheva Dec 25, 2007 ... 4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. Cutting down a tree to place in the ... www.israelnationalnews.com/Blogs/Message.aspx/2494 and lookie, lookie...what have we here?? British-Israel !! British-Israel.us - Lesson 18 - What's Wrong With "CHRISTMAS?" They DECK it with SILVER and with GOLD; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not. They are upright like the palm tree, but speak not" ... www.british-israel.us/18.html I gave it a cursory glance. It looks very good, richard; I think you would approve. It even ends up blaming it all on Rome. I will have to read it later, and re-read what-all was written about their Gog and Magog statues and THEIR PAGAN ORIGINS which PREDATED CHRISTIANITY, and digest it all. At first glance, this appears to be more of Judeo-British-Israel's Hegelian dialectic approach to moving the herd in the direction they want us to go. JUDAISM CREATED Roman Catholicism. Roman Catholicism is NOT Christian in the original sense of the word, and you know that. I think you know about the super-secret "Pilgrims Society". They have been working in tandem with all those other groups to bring us back to heel under The City. They are also the ones behind our merger with Canada. They just need "one ring" [universal religion] to bind us. Remember these people are descended from the Khazars [who were also related to THREE OF THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL], who offered up two opposing religions to their people, Christianity and Islam [thesis/antithesis], and then provided them with the solution: JUDAISM. Good trick. It's worked for them for thousands of years. They have offered us so many forms of Judeo-Christianity. They must think the Jehovah's Witnesses is the best way to go, since they don't charge for their instruction. Guess what? The Rothschild British-Israel site scepterofjudah doesn't charge for all their Judeo-"Christian" fascism instruction, either. That's not Biblical either. The priests, as servants of the Lord, were supported by the people. I will have a couple more things to add to the above later.....since you "asked".
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"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
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