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Title: LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate/ Fellow Member With Secret Service (Rumor -> Corn Flake Girl=Ferret Mike?)
Source: El Pee
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=All
Published: Oct 15, 2008
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2008-10-15 23:53:30 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 6020
Comments: 160

LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate Fellow Member With Secret Service

(#144) "And the Secret Service is in the modus to investigate the remotest possibility of a threat environment endangering someone on their 'A' list of whom they look out for". LP Member, Corn Flake Girl

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances".

"If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell, Preface to Animal Farm (1946)

"If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992).

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We must never allow people like Corn Flake Girl to impede or stop us from defending our right to speak, to express, to write and to tell the truth, to be the watchdog, eyes and ears of the people, or simply to share our view, and give fair comment on any subject which involves and affects us as humans, as rightful citizens of this country.

Most of us have fought censorship all of our adult life. To me, the most precious of all rights in this marvelous country called the United States of America is the freedom to think, write and say whatever is on your mind... That freedom also extends to thoughts that are stupid, ignorant or incendiary. No one needs a First Amendment to write about how cute newborn babies are or to publish a recipe for strawberry shortcake. Nobody needs a First Amendment for innocuous or popular points of view. That's point one. Point two is that the majority-you and I-must always protect the right of a minority-even a minority of one-to express the most outrageous and offensive ideas. Only then is total freedom of expression guaranteed."

The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish.

If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn. But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion.

If we go that route, then ignorant, faceless people like "Corn Flake Girl" will use their intimidation and force us to suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like.

As responsible members of LibertyPost, we demand and claim our space on the Internet for free and fair comment, where important national issues and prominent personalities are discussed.

Corn Flake Girl! If you find my posts offensive, you may, at any time, refute me with correct facts and figures and fair comment, in the spirit of free speech, but you will never silence me with threats of intimidation by the Secret Service, or any Law Enforcement. And if you ever do attempt something so stupid, you had better get your facts straight, because I do not tuck tale and run from you, or anyone who attempts to silence me. ~ Murron


Poster Comment:

Corn Flake/Ferret, do you have anything to say for yourself - you demented little goofy girl you?

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#12. To: angle (#11)

Get a life.

In the true world socialist spirit that deep down electrifies you, I'll take yours. How's that?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   11:30:55 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Rotara (#12)

I'll take yours. How's that?

Have you been taking stupid pills.

angle  posted on  2008-10-16   11:43:43 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Rotara (#10)

I know truths about murron.........its been shown she's a liar; there are threads at freedom underground and ims both backing me up.

That you refuse to remove the blinkers from your eyes is your problem, not mine. That you 'shoot from the hip and generally hit your foot' is also your problem. You'd do well to learn to aim before taking your popshots, friend.

rowdee  posted on  2008-10-16   13:30:47 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Rotara (#1)

I've been reading those threads, I was banned in May of 2001. Search 'Ferret' for me. I know who CFG is and I fully admit to putting heads together with her concerning starting an election season account at elpee. So?

Why should you care? Are you suddenly my Mom?

Hey mom, can I borrow the car for a date please? ROTFLMFAO!


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:23:35 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ferret Mike (#15)

ROTFLMFAO!

You're a fucking liar, fucktard.

You don't have a decent cell of bone marrow in your body.

Fuck you.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:26:31 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: rowdee (#14)

You'd do well to learn to aim before taking your popshots, friend.

You ain't no friend and my aim is dead on.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:27:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Rotara, RaisedEyeBrows, Corn Flake Girl (#12)

RaisedEyeBrows is also a separate individual who helped me run the Community Media Center in Eugene that we no longer do downtown. I was often accused of being him too by people.

Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political efficacy. Anyone thinking I am the only Eugenean spin doctoring the generally liberal paradigm of Eugenean world view online is self deluded.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:29:11 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)

You peddle in Barry the Commie.

Go fuck yourself, LIAR.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:29:46 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: angle (#13)

Stupid as in supporting Hugo Chavez, Global Man Made Climate Change and eco-terrorists? No, no stupid desired here.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:33:37 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Rotara (#16)

Again, what is it to you? Goldi-Lox only allows ineffective and poorly articulated opposition to her worldview in her forum. She is a self admitted neocon activist who has the sheep's clothing of maintaining elpee is an open forum as per the verbiage claiming this on the welcome page. What elpee actually is is an neocon mouth piece that handles the posting needs of banned FReepers and malcontents like yourself.

You have a bad habit of personalizing everything I say, and you need to stop this. Elpee is a totally different forum then 4UM. Let us not blur the two together.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:36:00 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Rotara (#20)

59. To: Goldi-Lox, Idol Hanz, Dewy (#57)

"I've read through your comments made recently on multiple threads, and I find a shocking theme. You are attempting to intimidate other LP members from speaking freely on this site, by invoking various law enforcement agencies in a manner that is akin to KGB operatives controlling the proletariat!!

ANY attempt for censorship of any kind, including intimidation or veiled threats is anethema to Liberty Post and its entire purpose; it flies in the face of the First Amendment.

It is 100% NOT acceptable here.

Please take your educated, opinionated, and intimidating remarks over to a site that encourages that behavior. It is clear that you do not visit here to participate in the liberty of free and unfettered speech.

I have terminated your account."

Then you will wish to terminate mine as well. Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone, and CFG was completely correct in wanting to report it to the relevant authorities.

Further, you have repeatedly failed to terminate the accounts of REAL racist posters such as Idol Hanz and Dewy, who freely and continually use the terms "nigger" and "darkie" in casual conversation, and enjoy your continued protection even when their racist posts are reported to you. I do not associate with nor tolerate people of that stripe in any way, even on a chat site on the Internet.

And just to provide some additional incentive for you to ban me, I have already provided the URL of Murron's post to the local Secret Service office. I suspect that somebody will be knocking at her door very soon. And if they are at all on the ball, they will be knocking on YOUR door as well for facilitating and encouraging such ILLEGAL behavior.

I will continue to scan LibertyPost from time to time, and will continue to report content I feel to be directly threatening to Secret Service protectees to the relevant authorities.

Why don't you just change the name of this web site to Stormfront Post or something that would more readily identify the average tenor and quality of posts here? If you're going to be a bear, be a grizzly.

Goodbye.

strelitsa posted on 2008-10-16 18:30:27 ET Reply Trace

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=241893&Disp=59#C59


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   18:39:57 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Rotara (#0)

I must have missed the part where Corn Flake Girl threatened someone. Too apathetic to look it up, but if somebody provide a linky-link I might look...

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-16   18:42:14 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Rotara (#3)

mike, you POS, you *ARE* worse than a f**king BUSHBOT.

McCain got your tongue?

And they write innumerable books; being too vain and distracted for silence: seeking every one after his own elevation, and dodging his emptiness. - T. S. Eliot

Dakmar  posted on  2008-10-16   18:44:19 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Ferret Mike (#22)

good grief, people on a supposed liberty forum obsessed with stalking, scrutinizing, and snitching, turning in the owner to the feds, etc. f-ked up people and f-cked up country, anyway you look at it.

MY REPLY TO ZEITGEIST: 1John Chapter 2: "21 I write to you not because you do not know the truth but because you do, and because every lie is alien to the truth. 22 Who is the liar? Whoever denies that Jesus is the Christ. Whoever denies the Father and the Son, this is the antichrist."
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2008-10-16   18:46:54 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Ferret Mike (#22)

Then you will wish to terminate mine as well. Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone, and CFG was completely correct in wanting to report it to the relevant authorities.

Further, you have repeatedly failed to terminate the accounts of REAL racist posters such as Idol Hanz and Dewy, who freely and continually use the terms "nigger" and "darkie" in casual conversation, and enjoy your continued protection even when their racist posts are reported to you. I do not associate with nor tolerate people of that stripe in any way, even on a chat site on the Internet.

And just to provide some additional incentive for you to ban me, I have already provided the URL of Murron's post to the local Secret Service office. I suspect that somebody will be knocking at her door very soon. And if they are at all on the ball, they will be knocking on YOUR door as well for facilitating and encouraging such ILLEGAL behavior.

I will continue to scan LibertyPost from time to time, and will continue to report content I feel to be directly threatening to Secret Service protectees to the relevant authorities.

well, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot! at least CFG never reported to SS Murron's jpg. btw, you might be interested to know that Murron has a biracial grandson so she would be the last to post a picture that was meant to convey the lynching of blacks. it was intended for teasonous, corrupt politicians of any color.

Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com

christine  posted on  2008-10-16   18:52:38 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Artisan (#25)

BHO IN '08! TO END THE SUFFERING ONCE AND FOR ALL!!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:58:34 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Ferret Mike (#22)

'snitch

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   18:59:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: christine (#26)

well, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot! at least CFG never reported to SS Murron's jpg. btw, you might be interested to know that Murron has a biracial grandson so she would be the last to post a picture that was meant to convey the lynching of blacks. it was intended for teasonous, corrupt politicians of any color.

The L-Y-I-N-G world socialist 'snitch bastards can all ROT in he## for all I care right now!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   19:01:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: christine (#26)

I would never worry about her calling. She hates Freddies worse then I do.

Thanks for the info on Murron, and I don't at all dislike her. When she trips up, she is her own worst enemy.

I looked at that graphic of hers' yesterday and agree with CFG that she could of gotten her message across better.

You have to admit that when using visual metaphor, one has to be on guard not to chose something that is the metaphor for something involving racial intolerance.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:01:17 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Ferret Mike (#30)

I looked at that graphic of hers' yesterday and agree with CFG that she could of gotten her message across better.

You speaking in the 3rd person, CFG, is beyond insulting.

You fucking L-I-A-R. You 'snitch.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   19:02:22 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Rotara (#28)

"'snitch"

I see, so now you think I was strelitsa too? Whatever, think what you wish, it is your prerogative. ;-)


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:03:50 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Ferret Mike (#32)

I see, so now you think I was strelitsa too? Whatever, think what you wish, it is your prerogative. ;-)

I have every single reason to believe you're a world socialist lying POS that posts on El Pee as CFG.

Care to L-I-E again or tell the truth, you pig?

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   19:04:55 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Rotara (#31)

"You speaking in the 3rd person, CFG, is beyond insulting."

And pray tell, how have I gored your ox here? You are upset at how the election is going, and you are looking for a scapegoat.

I feel your pain, but you really need not to take so personal something that scarcely involves you.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:07:13 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Rotara (#33)

"Care to L-I-E again or tell the truth, you pig?"

And again, you are upset regarding this tempest in a teapot, because...?


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:08:55 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Rotara (#33)

I got permission to be more forthcoming regarding CFG. I cleared this with management here, so get indignant if you wish, but I was not going to come out as having that returning bannee account unless management here reviewed my request to do so and approved it.

In the song Corn Flake Girl a CFG is a conservative hanging with the 'Raisin Girls' who are liberal and betrays them. As I am not a conservative, I played the CFG and female elements to that returning bannee account consistently. Neither female or conservative = ferret.

I did post two picture of a ferret in posts to ALS, so it was not like I was doing anything other then hiding in plain view, a technique I perfected as a FR returning bannee.

I also in no way disguised my verbiage, and have been expecting the banning of this returning bannee account. ;-)


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:17:48 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Rotara (#33) (Edited)

106. To: WarHawk42 (#2)

Actually I find it rather amusing her screen name contains the word "Flake", she is one, but she does have the right to her opinion, "She" is a "he".

sneakypete posted on 2008-10-16 19:11:57 ET Reply Trace

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=106#C106

I told my SF brother Sneaky Pete this in private E mail here about the account a long while ago. One of the main reasons I initially started the account was to contact people there I had lost contact with.

Having accomplished that a while ago, I have not really cared about the ultimate fate of this account.

I came back on recently as my old friend ALS has been posting there as byte shredder and I have been enjoying our very old rivalry and politics of contention. ;-)


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   19:26:28 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)

::spit::

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   19:46:35 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#26)

well, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot!

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.

Cicero Marcus Tullius

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes.nsf/c32a580c3d9f4e1a852569eb0067b760! SearchView

nikki  posted on  2008-10-16   20:52:37 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Artisan (#25)

f-ked up people and f-cked up country, anyway you look at it.

Just wait until Obummer becomes POTUS. This nation will be in a shooting civil war within 1 year.

“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941

X-15  posted on  2008-10-16   21:02:08 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: X-15 (#40)

This is a piece that shoots the facts straight down field.

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=88861&Disp=3#C3

If you haven't had a chance to read it, it's worth your time.

I guess for some it's a way to decide if you are on the side of humanity , or want to pursue a freeking agenda. If that's the case, then find pity elsewhere.

nikki  posted on  2008-10-16   21:11:24 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: nikki (#39)

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.

The enemy is cooking steak and appetizing on frogs inside the wire.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   21:21:20 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara (#18)

" Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political efficacy lunacy.

There, fixed it.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-16   21:32:37 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)

" Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political efficacy lunacy.

There, fixed it.

Don't stop now! LOL

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   21:34:58 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Rotara (#44)

I'm afraid that we have to first extricate The People's Republic of Eugene (a.k.a. Norte San Francisco) from the Twilight Zone before any further repairs can be made.

"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken

Original_Intent  posted on  2008-10-16   21:38:47 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)

I'm afraid that we have to first extricate The People's Republic of Eugene (a.k.a. Norte San Francisco) from the Twilight Zone before any further repairs can be made.

LOL!

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   21:41:00 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#43)

Sadly, too many Americans feel any show of political efficacy to be lunacy. This is a shame, as you get the best government in a republic like ours with maximum participation of all citizens.

I also submit those who seek to to ethnic cleansing style action here in the United States to purge political opinion they dislike are embracing fascist doctrine. There has been quite the atmosphere of militant intolerance from some in conservative ranks.

They should take care the tiger they try to ride, they could wind up it's dinner.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   21:42:42 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Rotara (#46)

Team America, now that is a great movie.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   21:43:44 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ferret Mike (#47)

They should take care the tiger they try to ride, they could wind up it's dinner.

The world socialist 'tiger' must not only be slain, the 'ring masters' must be neutralized as well. It's America's only and last hope.

I'm sorry, deeply, that you don't get this but rather are colluding with America's mortal enemy.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   22:05:12 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Ferret Mike (#48)

Team America, now that is a great movie.

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2008-10-16   22:06:29 ET  (1 image) [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: nikki (#39)

A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.

Cicero Marcus Tullius

Thank you for this, nikki. Truly timeless words.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2008-10-16   22:06:46 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Rotara (#49)

Only a neocon could of articulated such puerile intolerance of political though, congratulations.


"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn

Ferret Mike  posted on  2008-10-16   22:13:56 ET  [Locked]   Trace   Private Reply  



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