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Title: LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate/ Fellow Member With Secret Service (Rumor -> Corn Flake Girl=Ferret Mike?)
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URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=All
Published: Oct 15, 2008
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2008-10-15 23:53:30 by Rotara
Keywords: None
Views: 6093
Comments: 160
LP Member, Corn Flake Girl, Attempts to Silence/Intimidate Fellow Member With Secret Service "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances". "If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear." - George Orwell, Preface to Animal Farm (1946) "If you're in favor of free speech, then you're in favor of freedom of speech precisely for views you despise. Otherwise, you're not in favor of free speech." Noam Chomsky, Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992). We must never allow people like Corn Flake Girl to impede or stop us from defending our right to speak, to express, to write and to tell the truth, to be the watchdog, eyes and ears of the people, or simply to share our view, and give fair comment on any subject which involves and affects us as humans, as rightful citizens of this country. Most of us have fought censorship all of our adult life. To me, the most precious of all rights in this marvelous country called the United States of America is the freedom to think, write and say whatever is on your mind... That freedom also extends to thoughts that are stupid, ignorant or incendiary. No one needs a First Amendment to write about how cute newborn babies are or to publish a recipe for strawberry shortcake. Nobody needs a First Amendment for innocuous or popular points of view. That's point one. Point two is that the majority-you and I-must always protect the right of a minority-even a minority of one-to express the most outrageous and offensive ideas. Only then is total freedom of expression guaranteed." The price of freedom of religion, or of speech, or of the press, is that we must put up with a good deal of rubbish. If we suppress ideas we don't like, the proponents of those ideas will probably fester in secret societies and explode in double-plus ungood ways and we will like those results even less. If we allow people to see their ideas, and we ignore them, they've had their chance and they don't have to feel cheated about not getting exposure. Or if we really don't like their ideas and really need to keep them from convincing other people to believe in them, the answer is to tell people why and they'll learn. But you can't just beat people up because you dislike their stupid opinion. If we go that route, then ignorant, faceless people like "Corn Flake Girl" will use their intimidation and force us to suppress any opinion they don't like, and maybe support opinions we don't like. Then what you get is a society of brutality where it isn't the best ideas that are seen by others, it's only the ideas that have the most vicious thugs to back them up. And it becomes very hard for people to be willing to express any opinion if someone can just pop them one because they say something someone else doesn't like. As responsible members of LibertyPost, we demand and claim our space on the Internet for free and fair comment, where important national issues and prominent personalities are discussed. Corn Flake Girl! If you find my posts offensive, you may, at any time, refute me with correct facts and figures and fair comment, in the spirit of free speech, but you will never silence me with threats of intimidation by the Secret Service, or any Law Enforcement. And if you ever do attempt something so stupid, you had better get your facts straight, because I do not tuck tale and run from you, or anyone who attempts to silence me. ~ Murron
Poster Comment: Corn Flake/Ferret, do you have anything to say for yourself - you demented little goofy girl you?
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#29. To: christine (#26)
The L-Y-I-N-G world socialist 'snitch bastards can all ROT in he## for all I care right now!
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I would never worry about her calling. She hates Freddies worse then I do. Thanks for the info on Murron, and I don't at all dislike her. When she trips up, she is her own worst enemy. I looked at that graphic of hers' yesterday and agree with CFG that she could of gotten her message across better. You have to admit that when using visual metaphor, one has to be on guard not to chose something that is the metaphor for something involving racial intolerance.
You speaking in the 3rd person, CFG, is beyond insulting. You fucking L-I-A-R. You 'snitch.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I see, so now you think I was strelitsa too? Whatever, think what you wish, it is your prerogative. ;-)
I have every single reason to believe you're a world socialist lying POS that posts on El Pee as CFG. Care to L-I-E again or tell the truth, you pig?
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
And pray tell, how have I gored your ox here? You are upset at how the election is going, and you are looking for a scapegoat. I feel your pain, but you really need not to take so personal something that scarcely involves you.
And again, you are upset regarding this tempest in a teapot, because...?
I got permission to be more forthcoming regarding CFG. I cleared this with management here, so get indignant if you wish, but I was not going to come out as having that returning bannee account unless management here reviewed my request to do so and approved it. In the song Corn Flake Girl a CFG is a conservative hanging with the 'Raisin Girls' who are liberal and betrays them. As I am not a conservative, I played the CFG and female elements to that returning bannee account consistently. Neither female or conservative = ferret. I did post two picture of a ferret in posts to ALS, so it was not like I was doing anything other then hiding in plain view, a technique I perfected as a FR returning bannee. I also in no way disguised my verbiage, and have been expecting the banning of this returning bannee account. ;-)
Actually I find it rather amusing her screen name contains the word "Flake", she is one, but she does have the right to her opinion, "She" is a "he". sneakypete posted on 2008-10-16 19:11:57 ET Reply Trace http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=242074&Disp=106#C106 I told my SF brother Sneaky Pete this in private E mail here about the account a long while ago. One of the main reasons I initially started the account was to contact people there I had lost contact with. Having accomplished that a while ago, I have not really cared about the ultimate fate of this account. I came back on recently as my old friend ALS has been posting there as byte shredder and I have been enjoying our very old rivalry and politics of contention. ;-)
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"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear. Cicero Marcus Tullius http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes.nsf/c32a580c3d9f4e1a852569eb0067b760! SearchView
Just wait until Obummer becomes POTUS. This nation will be in a shooting civil war within 1 year.
This is a piece that shoots the facts straight down field. http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=88861&Disp=3#C3 If you haven't had a chance to read it, it's worth your time. I guess for some it's a way to decide if you are on the side of humanity , or want to pursue a freeking agenda. If that's the case, then find pity elsewhere.
The enemy is cooking steak and appetizing on frogs inside the wire.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
" Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political There, fixed it.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
There, fixed it. Don't stop now! LOL
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
I'm afraid that we have to first extricate The People's Republic of Eugene (a.k.a. Norte San Francisco) from the Twilight Zone before any further repairs can be made.
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
LOL! "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Sadly, too many Americans feel any show of political efficacy to be lunacy. This is a shame, as you get the best government in a republic like ours with maximum participation of all citizens. I also submit those who seek to to ethnic cleansing style action here in the United States to purge political opinion they dislike are embracing fascist doctrine. There has been quite the atmosphere of militant intolerance from some in conservative ranks. They should take care the tiger they try to ride, they could wind up it's dinner.
Team America, now that is a great movie.
The world socialist 'tiger' must not only be slain, the 'ring masters' must be neutralized as well. It's America's only and last hope. I'm sorry, deeply, that you don't get this but rather are colluding with America's mortal enemy.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams
Cicero Marcus Tullius Thank you for this, nikki. Truly timeless words.
Only a neocon could of articulated such puerile intolerance of political though, congratulations.
So, is it a yes or no to your pseudonym being corn flake girl?
My problem is not well intended and good hearted people. The problem is that their actions are visited as tyrannies upon those who disagree. My preference is a very libertarian - you don't intrude upon my liberty and I won't intrude upon yours. I believe in, and support, your right to believe and act as you wish, but only so far as it does not harm another. The kinds of well meaning angst ridden socialist tyrannies espoused by such as is popular in the gulag state of enslaving "love" which is offered up as sound in Eugene I oppose to the very innermost depths of my being. I will be no man's slave and will fight any "well meaning" socialist state Proletarian Slave system - where everyone is equal but some are more equal than others. Democracy is Two Wolves and a Sheep voting on what's for dinner. (With credit to Benjamin Franklin.) "The Government Which Governs Best Governs not at all." ~ Henry David Thoreau
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Yw. Allowing it further rains suspect upon it's host.
What part of opposition to socialist enslavement do you find intolerant and why?
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Why do you even give a shit what goes on at that site anyway?
They still doing that over there? I saved the ones that were posted to me.
Sorry Christine. I find that just as unacceptable as Byteshredder posting pictures suggesting the hanging of lobbyists to a known lobbyist.
Byteshredder is a comtemptable person who steals others work, makes threats etc. He is the worst and should have been banned in my opinion.
Goldi-Pox, from what I was told in a PM, invited him over to post in defense of Israel as there were too many posters, such as moi, who were pointing out that Israel's actions on the West Bank and Gaza are no different in kind than those of the Turd Reich. So, Goldi-Pox will never ban 'botshiller as he's her "boy".
"The difference between an honorable man and a moral man is that an honorable man regrets a discreditable act even when it has worked and he is in no danger of being caught." ~ H. L. Mencken
Cool, can I watch?
It's the second mouse that gets the cheese
that was a direct threat to you, so i can understand and respect your opinion on this. again, i saw Murron's jpg as not directed at any specific target. let me ask, would you have found it less offensive if the words were used (i.e. get rope, they deserve hanging) rather than the image?
Do You Know What Freedom Really Means? Freedom4um.com
Byteshredder is Cash Wakefield of Wichita, KA, the webmaster of several sites including Conservababes. He was at el pee as ALS/AtomicliberalSmasher during the 2004 election cycle with an evil bitch named Charity in tow. He is extremely fascist, a neocon and free speech's worst nightmare. http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main/conservababes.com
Cash Wakefield A K A Byteshredder/ALS is a fervently devout Israel rapture monkey. He believes God made the divine choice of Bush as our president, and he doesn't give a damn about McCain, but he love Palin. Goldi temp banned RaisedEyeBrows and me for embedding double entendre references to his real name once. Ghost of Quantrill and others also falsely blamed me for Charity's (also there as GoodSeedHomeSchool) departure from el pee. One of the reasons I was banned as CFG this time was my very overt outing of what his mindset is and inference that indeed I do know who he is and where he lives. She likes him there as her goon to control Democratic Party booster opposition to approved neocon candidates every election time. There is no free speech at el pee, the verbiage on the home page is a lie. It is like a movie set propped up fake building front with no substance to it.
Moi aussi.
It is a perfectly legitamate political paradigm in the marketplace of political thought. I am no fan of Marx and Engels, but the U.S. Constitution gives the right of freedom of speech and association. I have faith in their complete lack of ability to change the U.S. government into a collectivistic socialist entity. That killing and oppressing people like say the RCP and the CPUSA only gives them the power and glamor of the oppressed and makes them more attractive. You cannot kill ideas by the oppression of them. The sparks from stamping out several RCP cells only sends out human sparks the form new cells, new fires; it only exacerbates the size and popularity of those groups you might hate.
Probably. Especially if it was not directed at me but a general statement.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latestwell, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot! at least CFG never reported to SS Murron's jpg. btw, you might be interested to know that Murron has a biracial grandson so she would be the last to post a picture that was meant to convey the lynching of blacks. it was intended for teasonous, corrupt politicians of any color.
#30. To: christine (#26)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#30)
I looked at that graphic of hers' yesterday and agree with CFG that she could of gotten her message across better.
#32. To: Rotara (#28)
"'snitch"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#33. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
I see, so now you think I was strelitsa too? Whatever, think what you wish, it is your prerogative. ;-)
#34. To: Rotara (#31)
"You speaking in the 3rd person, CFG, is beyond insulting."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#35. To: Rotara (#33)
"Care to L-I-E again or tell the truth, you pig?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#36. To: Rotara (#33)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#37. To: Rotara (#33)
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106. To: WarHawk42 (#2)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#38. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
#39. To: christine (#26)
well, well, well, a real advocate of free speech and jack boot!
#40. To: Artisan (#25)
f-ked up people and f-cked up country, anyway you look at it.
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
#41. To: X-15 (#40)
#42. To: nikki (#39)
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.
#43. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara (#18)
efficacy lunacy.
#44. To: Original_Intent (#43)
" Eugene, Oregon is a city of extraordinarily high degrees of political
efficacy lunacy.
#45. To: Rotara (#44)
#46. To: Original_Intent (#45)
I'm afraid that we have to first extricate The People's Republic of Eugene (a.k.a. Norte San Francisco) from the Twilight Zone before any further repairs can be made.
#47. To: Original_Intent (#43)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#48. To: Rotara (#46)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#49. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
They should take care the tiger they try to ride, they could wind up it's dinner.
#50. To: Ferret Mike (#48)
Team America, now that is a great movie.
#51. To: nikki (#39)
A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear.
#52. To: Rotara (#49)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#53. To: Ferret Mike (#52)
#54. To: Ferret Mike (#47)
Sadly, too many Americans feel any show of political efficacy to be lunacy. This is a shame, as you get the best government in a republic like ours with maximum participation of all citizens.
#55. To: Jethro Tull (#51)
Thank you for this, nikki. Truly timeless words.
#56. To: Ferret Mike, Rotara (#52)
Only a neocon could of articulated such puerile intolerance of political though, congratulations.
#57. To: Rotara (#4)
I trust my sources.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#58. To: Ferret Mike, rotara (#22)
Murron's posting of a picture of a hangman's noose in a thread discussing a Secret Service protectee was blatantly racist and threatening in tone,
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#59. To: christine (#26)
Murron has a biracial grandson so she would be the last to post a picture that was meant to convey the lynching of blacks. it was intended for teasonous, corrupt politicians of any color.
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#60. To: Ferret Mike (#37)
I came back on recently as my old friend ALS has been posting there as byte shredder and I have been enjoying our very old rivalry and politics of contention. ;-)
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
#61. To: farmfriend, Ferret Mike (#60)
Byteshredder is a comtemptable person who steals others work, makes threats etc. He is the worst and should have been banned in my opinion.
#62. To: Rotara (#12)
In the true world socialist spirit that deep down electrifies you, I'll take yours. How's that?
#63. To: farmfriend (#59)
#64. To: farmfriend (#60)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#65. To: Original_Intent (#61)
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#66. To: farmfriend (#59)
"Sorry Christine. I find that just as unacceptable as Byteshredder posting pictures suggesting the hanging of lobbyists to a known lobbyist."
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#67. To: Original_Intent (#56)
"What part of opposition to socialist enslavement do you find intolerant and why?"
"You only have power over people so long as you don't take everything away from them. But when you've robbed a man of everything he's no longer in your power -- he's free again. Alexander Solzhenitsyn
#68. To: christine (#63)
would you have found it less offensive if the words were used (i.e. get rope, they deserve hanging) rather than the image?
I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs. —Thomas Jefferson, 1802
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