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Title: The Coming Attacks On America
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URL Source: http://judicial-inc.biz/Nuclear_attacks_on_america.htm
Published: Jul 21, 2005
Author: judicial-inc.
Post Date: 2005-07-21 08:49:35 by Grumble Jones
Keywords: Attacks, America, Coming
Views: 297
Comments: 209
What's It All About? This is about a world financial implosion, and the eventual creation of a one-world government along with a universal currency. The Zionists, who control the Federal Reserve, have used fiat credit to create an enormous inflation for the past 40 years. They used this wealth transfer to buy hard assets, especially monetary metals such as gold, as well as oil, knowing the coming financial crisis will demand a new currency, and that currency will be commodity-based. The only reason we are in Iraq is so Israel can control the world's oil, of which Iraq has massive reserves. Their final targets are Iran, and Venezuela, due to those nations also having massive oil reserves. The ensuing world depression will collapse prices, enabling those holding certain commodities to be in a position to buy everything for pennies. The best part for the Zionist elite, is that will all be blamed on the Muslims. Poster Comment: Go to the main page page of the article for a "must see."
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#170. To: Phaedrus (#164)
you're irritating, Phaedrus, arrogant, closedminded, and bossy too. i've done my "homework" on this issue. you're the one who hasn't. why don't you try heeding your own order.
Yes, they do. Hate is anything but rational.
Some people hate for wrong or false reasons, but they still have their reasons. As for the value of hate, it is a perfectly legitimate and useful emotion under the right circumstances.
You have to understand the conditioning. Everything is a dichotomy. It's no coincidence that Bush believes that people are either with him or against him and told the population so. It is a tactic. This is the way the Rep Party operates as well. My take on it is that the neocons had a major task on their hands when Bush became President. They had the dupe in place, by the constituents were a different story. They needed to change most of the positions of those who were Conservative- change them to neocon- Socialist at home, pro Israel as a #1 priority, and Empire abroad. So, the RNC, neocon thinktanks, their media, the President portrayed Conservatism as simply choosing good and fighting evil. They defined good and evil. This is a dichotomy and a false choice. Reps gladly sacrificed their principles to choose to neocon defined good on all issues. Patriotism was also heavily used. The neos defined Patriotism, and anti-American. There is that dichotomy again. By making Reps choose a or b, a false choice, they were able to drum out the Conservative ideology and replace it with the neocon ideology. They also won the election using dichotomy. Only 2 choices, Rep(good) and Lib(evil), and by defintition, libs are always worse than Conservatives, so there is only 1 choice- Rep. These dupes were so conditioned that holding the Rep Party responsible for not acting like traditional Reps never even crossed their mind. That was the beauty of it for Rep strategists and the Rep pols they represent. These dichotomies, reinforced with pos and neg emotions, limited the ability of Rep followers to think objectively and even rationally. This tactic has been a mainstay for Lush, Hannity and all of the 'pop' conservatives in the media. Republicans good, libs evil. They also narrowed the scope of all content on their shows so as to exclude anything paleoconservative or Libertarian. They promoted collectivism over individuality. Reps love god, Dems hate God. Reps love America, dems hate America. Reps are building the nation, Dems are tearing it down. Reps are moral, Dems are immoral. Reps are pro war, Dems are antiwar, Reps support Israel, Dems support Palestinians. Reps support the commander in chief, Dems support the terrorists. This also applies to paleoconservatives and Libertarian, but the neocons simply labelled those ideologies as that of K0oks, fringe extremists. This smear made sure that no issues were debated so as not to remind the neocon converts that they were not Conservatives anymore. The use of emotion was a key in the conditioning. During the Clinton years, especially during the impeachment period. neocons realized that making people hate Dems and love Reps... was a great way to control them. Principles could then be abandoned while maintaining control. If you listen to any amout of Lush or Hannity or Ingraham, you will find that they not only present dichotomies, but they use rhetoric that makes Reps hate the 'liberals' because they associate them with the evil half of the dichotomy. The talking heads present the threat aspect. "The evil libs are a direct threat to you." Later in the show, they will talk about Bush in glowing terms- 100% good, perfection in a man. They'll have icons call in like Gingrich, the pseudocon, to assuage those that used to be cons. Newt has all the right answers. 'Thank God for people like Newt." This relieves the tension from the hate fest that was just employed against those who oppose neocons and gives people a sense of relief. They then hear about how perfect the Rep Party is and feel secure. They see the Reps as saviours. They see them as the good part of the dichotomy. They become subconsciously subservient to the Neocon Party. So, when you see a poster like Phaedrus, he is conditioned on a deep level. He believes that jews are good, arabs are bad. Further, like the RNC dictates, he has to choose one or the other because it is a dichotomy and that is the only choice. This is false, and is used purely to CONTROL. It shuts down thinking on the issue, just like the emotion of hate shuts down thinking. There is no analysis of the Pali plight or Israel's evils. Israel good, Palis bad. 4um posters are either with the Jews, or against the Jews. If against the Jews, you are 100% pro Palestinian. He cannot even understand that a rational person sees both sides of the conflict and praises and criticizes both parties to the conflict. These are my ideas on BOT conditioning. By using dichotomies, principles do not exist. Things are black and white, a or b. And choosing b is punished psychologically by the Rep PTB, but I'll save that theory for a different post.
From your link, JUDAISM VERSUS ZIONISM, IN SUPPORT OF THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE. Apology accepted. You have not done your homework on this issue.
Are you saying God is irrational?
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Are you attempting to put words in my mouth? I am saying hate is irrational. It's a twisted emotion based on fear.
How is this statement PRO Palestinian (which apparently you equate with being antiIsraeli or anti Jewish) and how can they be IF they are Jews? You're being illogical. "We seek the return of all Palestinian refugees to their rightful land. We seek to live in the land of Palestine as anti Zionist Jews. To reside as loyal and peaceful Palestinian citizens, in peace and harmony with our Muslim Brethren. Just as our ancestors lived in Palestine for centuries before the usurpations of this tragic century."
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
See my last post for my theory on the transformation of millions of conservs to necon slaves.
No.. I am not but what I am doing it taking your statement to the logical conclusion. You said hate is not based on logic and now on emotion based fear. Is God illogical and emotional?
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
There are people who hate Jews for valid reasons.
I should clarify- I mean the Jewish power structure. Not individual Jews. Neocons, ADL, Israeli govt, etc.
Hate is a twisted emotion based on fear, it will burn you up and it is never justified. I flat don't agree with your statement.
I'm not particularly interested in discussing Palestine beyond my earlier comments. In my brief, overview opinion, it's a bogus anti-Isreal issue. If you want to start another thread, I'll have a look but I may or may not participate.
Stay with my words. Your conclusions may or may not be valid.
OH really? Seems you are the one that brought it up.. I didnt see anyone else in fact do so. My question again, are you saying that statement is anti-Jewish? It seems to me that the statement is propeace. Living in accord neither pro-Jewish or pro-Palestinian. Should I then surmise that, you are berating those here you say hate Jewish people but in fact you have those 'illogical, emotion filled' feelings for the Palestinians since you brought it up? Odd IMO.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
Ahhhh....not so fast. Consider the typical Iraqi family in Baghdad. They've been invaded, their children and families killed or maimed, all under the ruse of a search for Wmd's (which never existed). Hate toward America, and our military, is a justified emotion. I certainly would hate invading imperialists, in fact, I'd kill as many as I could. It’s called nationalism, patriotism, and bravery. God bless the resistance.
Thats why I put it in question form..
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
You are playing word games. I'm not interested. Play with someone else.
It's the dichotomy I mentioned above. The neocon leadership presents Reps with choices in a dichotomy. Except it's not even a choice because they condition followers to be repulsed by the choice that doesn't support the neocons. So there really is no choice. It's almost totalitarian when I think about it. A form of US totalitarianism. Israelis good, Palis evil. No issues are ever introduced that might allow the follower to think rationally. There is no debate about which side is just. Just a simple choice: You have to pick 'the Jews.' Because you have been conditioned that the Palis are evil. There is really no more conditioning necessary at this point. Just managing info on Jews to be all positive and on Palis as all evil- to reinforce the conditioning regularly. Palis are also associated with negative, unpleasant emotions and Jews with the opposite. Reality has nothing to do with the process. Since it's a dichotomy, the follower never realizes that he can have positions against the Palis AND against the Israelis. It's either or. And he can only see adversaries as being 100% for the Palies, because he assumes the opponent sees the situation as a dichotomy- like he does! You are either with us or against us. If you do not support the Israelis totally, you support the Palestinians totally.
It's almost totalitarian when I think about it. A form of US totalitarianism. Precisely.. for me it is not an either or .. its the same for those who continually fall into the false dichotomy of left/right .. Democrat/Republican .. evil/good .. anti-American/patriotic .. damned fools all.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
What Phaedrus is trying to say here is that you nailed him. He has no rational response and so he begins tap dancing - again.
Hate is a human emotion, like any other. To deny it its proper place in the realm of human experience is to deny a portion of our humanity.
It seems Phaedrus is practicing his neocon debating techniques. You ask a question - he refuses to answer. I guess that's better than trying to defend stupidity.
To what other conclusion can we come?
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
See #191. I'm seeing some word parsing out of Phaedrus that would make a Rove defender proud. Don't call him on his bullshit though. He'll run off and hide behind the bozo filter if you do.
Says the person who has done nothing but dance in order to evade responsibility for the meaning of his own words.
So it seems, thinking beyond the propaganda I suppose is difficult until you leave the matrix.
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
I offer you this link so that you might have the opportunity to educate yourself, rather than to continue in ignorance.
This thread has gone sideways, sound and fury signifying nothing. Have your fun, y'all. Gotta do a little work. I'll look in a little later to see if all the hooting, hollering, grunting and scratching has quieted down ... shalom.
I've seen no "hooting, hollering, grunting and scratching".. all I've seen is you refusing to respond to a valid question on a topic that you in fact yourself brought up.. SO exit stage 'right' .. (btw fear is also an emotion.)
"...when a society believes in nothing, fear becomes the only agenda..."
LOL. Right you are.
We seek to live in the land of Palestine as anti Zionist Jews. To reside as loyal and peaceful Palestinian citizens, in peace and harmony with our Muslim Brethren. Just as our ancestors lived in Palestine for centuries before the usurpations of this tragic century." Zip, here's an interesting article I found. It is basically an interview with a French Jew who was born in Tunisia, a Sephardic Jew no doubt. And I would imagine the Zionist Israeli and American Ashkenazi Jews (and likely their Christian Zionist sycophants) are livid with him for suggesting what he does in the article, that Arabs and Jews can live together in peace. New European Jewish leader: Let us handle our own challenges
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
Regard the MO of Phaedrus: Phaedrus first tosses out a bit of silly propaganda. Perhaps something Hannity or Michael Savage thought up for him. If someone then questions this unsupported spew, Phaedrus spins and moves sideways; perhaps claiming that the other person is playing word games or some such smokescreen. When Phaedrus is called on this dodge, Phaedrus resorts to personal attacks and runs off and hides - as he just did above. Phaedrus then wonders why people think he's a silly ninney and fail to respect him.
I've got him on BOZO simply because he immediately launched a personal attack against me after he sidestepped my question to him. Seems to fit.
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
To be honest, that unreasoning stuffed shirt mentality that we see in him really reminds me of Becky Saunders over on LP. Could we be dealing with a sock puppet here?
The Master Race, God's special pets
The Holocaust Historiography Project
Cut from the same cloth perhaps.
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
Debatable? Hardly. I for one, am all for the existence of Israel. Not only can they stand on their own, but they have nuclear deterrents, and the same capabilities as the US Military. How do I know this? Because Israel has been selling our most sensitive technologies to China and Russia. They can stand on their own just fine. Why should we give them billions of dollars in aid every year, when they can make their own way, selling their products to other nations? They do just fine, in fact, as an arms manufacturer, they do quite well. Why do we need to pay for their settler relocation program to the tune of $250,000.00 per person? We should help Israel why? Why is it our problem whether or not they get a pipeline at OUR expense? They certainly aren't paying for it, WE ARE. We give them billions of dollars, and we are building their pipelines, AND OUR SOLDIERS ARE DYING FOR ISRAELI INTERESTS. Tell me one good reason why we should do this? What purpose does it serve? Does it help us in the Middle East? No, actually it doesn't. You then tell me that people who hate Jews, can hide behind a label, such as Zionist. Well, it shakes both ways pal. If you're saying anyone who says there's a difference between Jews and Zionists is a hatemonger, it's because you know the difference, and you know the truth. You just don't want to lose your ethnic upper hand. People who are chronic victims always bleat the loudest, when they know they're losing an argument. I support Israel, and I believe they should be a sovereign nation. I also believe that after 60+ years of aid, they should be able to stand on their own. They fought the 7 day war, and annihilated their enemies WITHOUT our help. This country when it was conceived, stood on its own from DAY ONE. Israel should be able to do the same. They aren't in immediate danger, they can rout just about any enemy that comes across their border. Unlike you, I speak the truth, and know the truth. Israel can stand on its own, fight its own battles, and come out victorious. I firmly believe that if left to its own devices, Israel could literally mop the floor with every enemy nation it has in the region. I would applaud them for doing so. However, we have too many people in our government, and in their government who like things just the way they are. Israel should be free to do what it needs to, to wipe out their enemies, however, our government's need to be their personal hand holder, is obscene to me.
Do your homework.
#171. To: Bayonne (#166)
People don't hate for no reason.
#172. To: Phaedrus (#171)
Yes, they do. Hate is anything but rational.
#173. To: christine, crack monkey, Jhoffa (#160)
You're calling the Neturei Karta jews pro palestinian? Interesting.
#174. To: christine (#170)
you're irritating, Phaedrus, arrogant, closedminded, and bossy too. i've done my "homework" on this issue. you're the one who hasn't. why don't you try heeding your own order.
#175. To: Phaedrus (#171)
Yes, they do. Hate is anything but rational.
#176. To: Zipporah (#175)
Are you saying God is irrational?
#177. To: Phaedrus (#174)
#178. To: Jethro Tull (#167)
#179. To: Phaedrus (#176)
Are you attempting to put words in my mouth? I am saying hate is irrational. It's a twisted emotion based on fear.
#180. To: Phaedrus (#171)
#181. To: All (#180)
#182. To: Bayonne (#180)
There are people who hate Jews for valid reasons.
#183. To: Zipporah (#177)
#184. To: Zipporah (#179)
I am not but what I am doing it taking your statement to the logical conclusion.
#185. To: Phaedrus (#183)
#186. To: Phaedrus (#182)
Hate is a twisted emotion based on fear, it will burn you up and it is never justified.
#187. To: Phaedrus (#184)
Stay with my words. Your conclusions may or may not be valid.
#188. To: Zipporah (#185)
#189. To: Zipporah (#177)
How is this statement PRO Palestinian?
#190. To: Bayonne (#189)
It's the dichotomy I mentioned above. The neocon leadership presents Reps with choices in a dichotomy. Except it's not even a choice because they condition followers to be repulsed by the choice that doesn't support the neocons. So there really is no choice.
#191. To: Phaedrus, Zipporah (#188)
You are playing word games. I'm not interested. Play with someone else.
#192. To: Phaedrus (#182)
Hate is a twisted emotion based on fear, it will burn you up and it is never justified. I flat don't agree with your statement.
#193. To: Zipporah (#187)
#194. To: crack monkey, Phaedrus (#191)
What Phaedrus is trying to say here is that you nailed him. He has no rational response and so he begins tap dancing - again.
#195. To: Jethro Tull (#193)
It seems Phaedrus is practicing his neocon debating techniques. You ask a question - he refuses to answer. I guess that's better than trying to defend stupidity.
#196. To: Phaedrus (#188)
You are playing word games.
#197. To: Jethro Tull (#193)
It seems Phaedrus is practicing his neocon debating techniques. You ask a question - he refuses to answer. I guess that's better than trying to defend stupidity.
#198. To: Phaedrus (#188)
#199. To: All (#198)
#200. To: Phaedrus (#199)
I'll look in a little later to see if all the hooting, hollering, grunting and scratching has quieted down ... shalom.
#201. To: Zipporah (#200)
SO exit stage 'right' .. (btw fear is also an emotion.)
#202. To: Zipporah, Phaedrus (#177)
"We seek the return of all Palestinian refugees to their rightful land.
#203. To: Phaedrus (#199)
This thread has gone sideways, sound and fury signifying nothing. Have your fun, y'all. Gotta do a little work. I'll look in a little later to see if all the hooting, hollering, grunting and scratching has quieted down
#204. To: crack monkey (#203)
Phaedrus then wonders why people think he's a silly ninney and fail to respect him.
#205. To: BTP Holdings (#204)
#206. To: Eoghan (#114)
#207. To: crack monkey (#205)
reminds me of Becky Saunders over on LP. Could we be dealing with a sock puppet here?
#208. To: Phaedrus (#159)
Well, this is debatable. I'm hearing three things. One is essentially that Israel has no right to protect itself and act as a sovereign state. Two is that we have no right to support them. I think we should. Three is that those who hate Jews can hide behind the label, "Zionist". Does that about sum it up?
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#209. To: Phaedrus (#171)
You're right, hating something sometimes is irrational, but sometimes you can rationalize that hate. Hence, Nazism. If someone were to hurt you, your family, or friends, you'd probably hate them, if it were bad enough. Is that irrational, not really, it's being human. Do I hate Jews? Hell no, I have friends who are Jewish. Do I hate Zionists? No, I don't. Do I hate what their agenda is, I am averse to my country being used. Hating people for no reason, is irrational. Hating people for being evil, is justifiable.
| So many morons, so few bullets. |
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