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Title: The Coming Attacks On America
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URL Source: http://judicial-inc.biz/Nuclear_attacks_on_america.htm
Published: Jul 21, 2005
Author: judicial-inc.
Post Date: 2005-07-21 08:49:35 by Grumble Jones
Keywords: Attacks, America, Coming
Views: 748
Comments: 209
What's It All About? This is about a world financial implosion, and the eventual creation of a one-world government along with a universal currency. The Zionists, who control the Federal Reserve, have used fiat credit to create an enormous inflation for the past 40 years. They used this wealth transfer to buy hard assets, especially monetary metals such as gold, as well as oil, knowing the coming financial crisis will demand a new currency, and that currency will be commodity-based. The only reason we are in Iraq is so Israel can control the world's oil, of which Iraq has massive reserves. Their final targets are Iran, and Venezuela, due to those nations also having massive oil reserves. The ensuing world depression will collapse prices, enabling those holding certain commodities to be in a position to buy everything for pennies. The best part for the Zionist elite, is that will all be blamed on the Muslims. Poster Comment: Go to the main page page of the article for a "must see."
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#112. To: Jhoffa_ (#99)
Me: I kinda have to. I've read so many reputable places that the Jews test at the top of world in IQ that I'm going to need more than an anti-semitic website to change my mind. I'm going to have to see all kinds of support, not bald statements and unsupported statistics. Let me expand a little on this so you don't think I'm just making stuff up. The following is from The Bell Curve, Herrnstein and Murray, Copyright 1994, at page 275: "Jews - specifically Ashkenazi Jews of European origins - test higher than any other ethnic group. A fair estimate seems to be that Jews in America and Britain have an overall IQ mean somewhere between a half and a full standard deviation above the mean, with the source of the difference concentrated in the verbal component." This is a significant difference and I've run into it in numerous places. Most recently, I ran into it in Mothers, Leadership, and Success by Guy Odom, copyright 1989. The Bell Curve is copiously footnoted and documented, the point being that it has high credibility. When I am shown data completely at odds with this (post #57) and undocumented as to source, I question it. This is appropriate since the site is clearly very anti-semitic. There is controversy as to why the Jews as a group have a superior IQ but not as to that they do.
See #112.
Ah yes, two Chosen and Manhattan Institute fellows...so, are they Compassionate Conservatives(TM) too? Any mention that Ashkenazi Jews have higher Tay-Sachs and mental illness compared to the whole of the goyim?...Yes, this is all relevant...
Beats hell out of your source, hotshot.
However, individual bad acts are aberrations and must not be attributed to the people as a whole? That’s pretty much it, isn’t it? That would be the Phaedrus doctrine. But, if you point that out, you are just being silly, making too fine of distinctions and getting all semantic on him. ;-)
And yet you practice the exact same prejudice, as I've already pointed out.
Nuke, read #112, then give it up.
It's going to get worse, much worse, before it gets better, sorry to say -- my humble but informed opinion. Hope I'm wrong.
How do jews compare with atheists?
I found this thread interesting so I followed it through. First of all, It's hard to believe this guy Phaedrus is 62 based on his undercurrent of insecurity inherent in his responses. Having owned a company could be part of the reason. If it were a large company, he would have been conditioned to be the arrogant person he appears to be. But the constant references to "winning the debate", his jealousy of BTP Holdings and his attempts at belittling others really leaves me feeling sorry for this maladjusted miscreant. He is incapable of civil debate with respect for the other side. But of course this is just my "ignorant two bit analysis" or some defensive response along those lines. Bottom line....... Life is too short to waste it on cretinous yahoos.
The future is so bright I got to wear shades.
Claims to have been a CFO of a small corporation, which is a part of the underlying problem as I pointed out earlier. JMHO, but the responses we have seen thus far tend to prove it out. HIs tactic is to get you to admit to anything, no matter how small, and then claim victory. Such a waste of time to try to discuss with someone who is so condescending.
"But what is Hope? Nothing but the paint on the face of Existence; the least touch of truth rubs it off, and then we see what a hollow-cheeked harlot we have got hold of." Lord Byron
You just can't put it any better than that. I know a lot of Jews. My brother-in-law is one and we're great pals. Yeah,he's loaded and has a very succesful business. He's also a philanthropist and he sure as hell is not a Zionist. When I took my first job as a teenager,the business owner was a Jew. He treated me like a son and I won't forget him. Once again,he was not a Zionist. On my second job as a teenager,I worked for another one. He was the owner of a very large retail chain of stores. Yep, he was filthy rich and lived in the largest mansion in the area. That man built whole wings on hospitals with his own money. He also donated incredible sums of money to local charities and helped to expand a local University by building a new state of the art performing arts center and a new "Chapel"...a Protestant chapel at that. He died a few years ago and willed his entire mansion and land which included a private golf course to the University....He was not a Zionist. That's just a few examples. Phaedrus wants to lump everyone who opposes Zionism as anti-Semites. He just doesn't get it and he using the same old tired finger pointing techniques to corral everyone into the same camp. Phaedrus is just paranoid and a baiter. I agree with Phaedrus that jews have made tremendous contributions to this country but most likely very few were Zionists. Yes Phaedrus...there is a difference whether you want to admit it or not. Insulting everyone and calling names to those opposed to Zionism is just plain nonsense.
Perhaps you and Phaedrus are closer in your views than you think you are. Richard W.
I don't know, Nuke. My quarrel is with those who would single out the Jews to blame for unrelated social or economic problems, or for their own deficiencies and insecurities. History is replete with examples of this (Hitler) and it's not only counter-productive, it's morally wrong. And as I said above, from the perspective of the individual, hate will burn you up.
Phaedrus is trying to lump everyone opposed to Zionism as being a total anti- Semite. He says there is no difference between the two. I disagree with him.
OK, please clearly distinguish Jewishness from Zionism and we'll see whether the latter is or is not simply an excuse to bash Jews. And you may want to reread my posts more carefully if you think they're about insults and name- calling. This is a mischaracterization. While it is true that I have no patience with sophistry, I speak truth as I know it. When I am attacked, I know how to defend myself. That is the true complaint. The easy solution is to acknowledge valid points.
Phaedrus puts the person challenging him on Bozo and then hides out and whines. Better watch out Grumble.
He's done neither. You discredit yourself. Richard W.
I have for years debated the Evolutionists and that's a tough crowd but the blood on the floor was by no means all mine. The good news is that they don't have the facts.
He certainly did. Check out his discussion on the Scalia thread about three months ago. Call up his posts to me. When you catch him in a contradiction he goes personal and then puts you on bozo. His cowardly little hissy fit is in the record for all to see.
Richard W. As further evidence. Notice that Phaedrus is still cowering behind the bozo filter.
Crack and I have had a go-around or two. I think we've tacitly agreed to pretty much avoid each other. It's a good thing.
You know the difference. You're just trying to be a pain in the ass. reread my posts more carefully if you think they're about insults and name- calling. You're inferring that everyone opposed to Zionism is an anti-Semite. What else would that be besides name calling in a subtle manner.
I was just making the point that you DO go personal and hide behind the bozo when caught in a contradiction. I thought people might like to call up your last little cowardly dodge and study it. No offense intended.
Yes, crack, you've been on Bozo.
The Scalia thread. Search me to you. People might want to see where you are coming from before bothering to take your opinions seriously.
Now, you see, I am civil and you insult me, all the while accusing me of bad behavior. You can't have it both ways, Grumble. Make the point or back away and note well that I am not infinitely tolerant of insults.
We don't have anything to say to each other, crack.
LoL...Nice spin!!!!
Now you see, we really don't have anything to say to each other.
You did not respond. You are attempting to change the subject. You have just acknowledged my point.
JewsNotZionists WHY IS WORLD JEWRY OPPOSED TO THE ZIONIST STATE --snip-- This site has a wealth of information about the distinction between jews and zionists: See...I gave you a compliment on your ability to spin. Besides,calling people who oppose Zionism as anti-Semites is name calling. What else is would it be? I just said that you were trying to be a 'pain in the ass.' Where did I call you a name?
I find it interesting that you are going out of your way to find something insulting in Grumble's posts. If you don't know the difference between Zionism, and Judaism, then apparently the problem you really have is ignorance. There's a difference between Jewish people, and Zionists. Jewish people are just like everyone else. They work, they have families, they take care of their communities, and are mostly hard working, upstanding citizens, just like everyone else. They believe in the American Dream, and do not work to bring that system down, or destroy the country that gave them the oppurtunities to succeed. Jewish people are fine so long as they don't want the United States to be their bitch, which is what Zionism is about, ie, mopping up the middle east with unjust wars, killing off all of Israel's enemies, while selling sensitive technologies to America's enemies. Which Israel has done, by selling the Aegis systems we gave to them, to China. But I digress. Zionism, or Zionists are people who don't give a shit about anyone, but Israel, and think the world owes them everything they want, desire, and need. Such as the billions of dollars in aid we funnel to Israel every year, or how we are mired in the Middle East, with no exit strategy. American soldiers are dying so that Israel can have its own oil pipelines, again, built at the expense of the American Taxpayer. So, now that you know the difference between Jews, and Zionists, you have no excuse to find what Grumble says offensive, seeing as how you went personal before Grumble actually got a chance to educate you. Of course now, I'm probably an anti-semite right???
You: You brush off post #57 as the work of haters, but claim others won't accept your simple truth at face value?
#113. To: Eoghan (#108)
#114. To: Phaedrus (#112)
The Bell Curve, Herrnstein and Murray
“Under this roof are the heads of the family of Rothschild, a name famous in every capital of Europe, and every division of the globe." -Benjamin Disraeli
#115. To: Eoghan (#114)
Ah yes, two Chosen and Manhattan Institute fellows...so, are they Compassionate Conservatives(TM) too? Any mention that Ashkenazi Jews have higher Tay-Sachs and mental illness compared to the whole of the goyim?...Yes, this is all relevant...
#116. To: Jhoffa_ (#58)
So, we have learned the Jews are a monolithic bloc when one is saying good things about them..
#117. To: Phaedrus (#78)
I'm anti-hate and anti-prejudice.
#118. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#117)
#119. To: robin (#106)
When I think of our quality of life then compared to today's I get angry. And, I'm not speaking of my own life, I mean in general.
#120. To: Phaedrus (#118)
#121. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#53)
I don't want to debate a person who uses language as sloppily as you do and when shown his error just sloughs it off as irrelevant semantics or fine distinctions.
#122. To: timetobuildaboat (#121)
If it were a large company, he would have been conditioned to be the arrogant person he appears to be.
#123. To: BTP Holdings, Phaedrus all (#33)
that not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are Jews.
#124. To: Grumble Jones (#123)
#125. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#120)
How do jews compare with atheists?
#126. To: Arete (#124)
Perhaps you and Phaedrus are closer in your views than you think you are.
#127. To: Grumble Jones (#123)
Yes Phaedrus...there is a difference whether you want to admit it or not. Insulting everyone and calling names to those opposed to Zionism is just plain nonsense.
#128. To: Phaedrus, Grumble Jones (#127)
When I am attacked, I know how to defend myself.
#129. To: crack monkey (#128)
and then hides out and whines.
#130. To: Arete (#124)
#131. To: Arete (#129)
#132. To: Arete (#129)
He's done neither. You discredit yourself.
#133. To: Arete (#129)
#134. To: Phaedrus (#127)
OK, please clearly distinguish Jewishness from Zionism
#135. To: Phaedrus (#133)
Crack and I have had a go-around or two. I think we've tacitly agreed to pretty much avoid each other. It's a good thing.
#136. To: crack monkey (#132)
#137. To: Phaedrus (#136)
Yes, crack, you've been on Bozo.
#138. To: Grumble Jones (#134)
You know the difference. You're just trying to be a pain in the ass.
#139. To: crack monkey (#137)
#140. To: Phaedrus (#138)
Now, you see, I am civil and you insult me,
#141. To: crack monkey (#135)
... your last little cowardly dodge and study it. No offense intended.
#142. To: Grumble Jones (#140)
LoL...Nice spin!!!!
#143. To: Phaedrus (#127)
1) What is "The people of Israel" ?
-The people of Israel have existed for thousands of years.
-It has its own particular, essential, nature.
-The Torah is the source of its essential nature.
-Without Torah and faith there is no people of Israel.
-Whoever denies the Torah and the Faith is no longer part of the people of
Israel.
-The purpose of the People of Israel in this world is Divine service.
-Their salvation is occupation in Divine Service.
2) What is Zionism ?
-Zionism is a new thing.
-It has only existed for a century.
-Zionism redefines the true essential nature of the people of Israel, and
substitutes for it a completely contradictory and opposite character.
- a materialistic worldly nation.
-Their misfortune is lack of what other nations have. i.e. a state and army.
-Their salvation is possession of a state and army etc.
- This is clearly speed out in the circles of Zionist though, and among the
leaders of the Zionist state, That through changing the nature and character
of the people of Israel and by changing their way of thinking they can set
before the People of Israel "their salvation." -- a state and an army.
#144. To: Phaedrus (#142)
You did not respond. You are attempting to change the subject.
#145. To: Phaedrus (#142)
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#146. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#145)
That was another brilliant post but he probably still won't 'get it.'
#147. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#145)
Phaedrus did the same thing to me on the Scalia thread. You can find this by searching my posts to him. It should come up right away as I haven't really posted to him since. As Phaedrus' arguments fall apart he gets hypersensitive. He begins to take everything as a personal attack. Eventually he puts the person on bozo and then cowardly insults the person from behind the bozo filter. It's his MO. You can see this on the thread I referenced at the beginning of this post.
I find it interesting that you are going out of your way to find something insulting in Grumble's posts.
#148. To: Phaedrus (#125)
Indeed, that is a very bad thing. Just as bad, in fact, as doing the exact same thing in reverse -- which is what you do. It's really a simple thing to understand. You can grasp it, can you not?
My quarrel is with those who would single out the Jews to blame for unrelated social or economic problems, or for their own deficiencies and insecurities.
- "Let me ask you this: A guy breaks into your house, but you don't have a gun. How are you going to shoot him?" ~~Dale Gribble
#149. To: Phaedrus (#112)
First: Data is not "anti-semitic" Second: I confirmed the table in about 30 seconds. Provided you will accept the National Center for Education Statistics as an unbiased source. http://nces.ed.gov/timss/TIMSS03Tables.asp?figure=7&Quest= Third: I don't really care either way, but when I see a disparty between what can and cannot be said of a people collectively, it bothers me. I see elsewhere you asked for a definition of the term "Zionist" I don't know what it means and I won't pretend I do, but speaking for myself the Jews I hate are just like all the other people I hate. They're the ones constantly on the march with some new and stupid idea about what freedoms or degree of sovereignty we should voluntarily give up to makes everything all nice and fair or multicultural or whatever. I'm fucking sick of it. We've been doing this dance to the bottom for years and all they can do is suggest new ways to inconvenience society for the express benefit of a select (and usually deviant) few. "Hate Crimes" and "Hate Speech" would be good examples.
When I am shown data completely at odds with this (post #57) and undocumented as to source, I question it. This is appropriate since the site is clearly very anti-semitic.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#150. To: Phaedrus (#149)
PS: Now is it fair to pidgeon hole an entire people for the actions of a few? Of course not. However & likewise, when I note Jewish groups involved in this activity (ADL) I don't accept that mentioning this fact is "Anti-Semitic" either. I'm not a Jew, and if I won't willingly gloss over, say a Christian orginization's involvement in something decidedly stupid and detrimental to the way I believe things ought to be, then why in the world would I cut anyone else a break? Regards.
"Working Three Jobs is: Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic... Get any sleep?" (Laughs) ~ George W Bush
#151. To: Jhoffa_, Phaedrus (#150)
Nor have we. As a Baptist, I have joined in with the well-deserved beating we have given the rapture monkeys. They've all lost their collective minds. On this forum we take swings at many groups we are not allowed to on other forums. Most of us discern the difference between the Bush Family and other WASPS as well as the difference between fantatical Zionists and ordinary Jewish American citizens.
I'm not a Jew, and if I won't willingly gloss over, say a Christian orginization's involvement in something decidedly stupid and detrimental to the way I believe things ought to be, then why in the world would I cut anyone else a break?
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
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