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Title: The Planned Theft of the Election of 2008
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URL Source: http://www.newswithviews.com/Ryter/jon256.htm
Published: Oct 19, 2008
Author: Jon Christian Ryter
Post Date: 2008-10-19 10:45:18 by christine
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Comments: 15

The State of Virginia, the military "capital" of the United States, has not voted for a Democratic Presidential candidate since it cast its electoral votes for Lyndon B. Johnson—and a continued presence in Vietnam—in 1964. According to the liberal media, suddenly Virginia is the unexpected battleground that will likely decide the Election of 2008. In 2000, Democratic nominee Al Gore, Jr. correctly predicted that the race would be decided by Florida voters. In 2004, Democratic Presidential candidate John Kerry correctly predicted that race would be settled in Ohio. Earlier this month both Democratic presidential nominee Barack Hussein Obama and Virginia's liberal Democratic governor, Tim Kaine, both opined that the Election of 2008 would be decided by Virginians. Virginia is a critical State for the far left this year because not only is there an extremist liberal running for President, former Virginia Governor Mark Warner—a liberal who supports a date-certain withdrawal from Iraq—is vying for the US Senate seat of retiring Sen. John Warner, a pro-military Republican moderate. Warner's seat is also being sought by an equally popular former Republican Governor Jim Gilmore, who supported the surge in Iraq. The left absolutely needs Warner's seat and its almost a certainty that the dead will rise in Virginia to vote against military-minded John Sidney McCain in the most military state in the union.

In addition to the the White House and Warner's US Senate seat, the left has posted "do not resuscitate" signs over the reelection campaigns of 4th term Republican Congressman Randy Forbes (Chesapeake); 10th term Republican Frank Wolfe ((Herndon); 11th term Republican Tom Davis (Annandale)—and they would also like to administer nonsectarian last rites to 5th term Congressman Virgil Goode, Jr. and 6th term Bob Goodlatte (Roanoke) even though those two are in fairly conservative areas.

The Washington Post noted that Obama "...is trying to end 44 years of Republican dominance and become the first Democrat since Lyndon B. Johnson to carry the State. McCain's challenge," the Post article continued, "is more immediate, as he has less than three weeks to reverse polls that show a trend against him." Sounds logical. But there is an inherent flaw in the truth because it fails to factor history into the accounting. Virginia is a Democratic State because its roots are tied to the Jeffersonian Democratic Party (which isn't remotely related to the Marxist version of democracy we have in the Democratic Party today).

Virginian Democrats (at least those who invest their own sweat equity in their nation, their State and their community by toiling 8 to 12 hours a day to provide for their families), are Jeffersonian Democrats not Marxist Democrats. They don't believe, as suggested by Obama running mate Joe Biden that it is patriotic to let politicians drain individual sweat equity from the middle class to achieve the redistribution of their "wealth: (i.e., sweat equity) to those who think this nation owes them a living because their ancestors may have been slaves. Anyone who agrees to let the federal government act as their personal banker and spend their money to enrich those who feel it is the obligation of society to provide for them because work is beneath them, or those whose idea of "work" is collecting a welfare check or sitting on a curb with a sign and a tin cup are stupid

Frankly, that political philosophy is stupid and suggesting it in a political campaign presupposes that the voters are blind idiots. (And, sadly, many of them are.) .The promise of America to its citizens is not economic equality. It is only that the poorest man among us has as much right to liberty as the richest man among us; and that freedom is a gift given to all men by God and not by self-serving politicians who have come to see themselves as gods. The promise of this nation is that each of us would, by law, have an equal chance to be whatever we can be, based not on government largess, but based on our own intelligence, our own business acumen, our own common sense, and the sweat of our own brow.

In life, some will success, some will fail. All this nation offers is a chance to try, not a guarantee you will succeed. No where in the Constitution of the United States did the people bequeath to government the right to guarantee anyone financial equality by taxing one class of people to specifically elevate another specifically to shackle them to both the feeding trough of the State and the voting booth which guarantees that the poor, to keep their entitlements, must re-elect the politiicians who, themselves are shackled to the money barons who control their votes in Congress.

When Obama expressed concern about the regulations governing out-of-state voting of college students in Virginia, Obama appealed to Gov. Tim Kaine, to waive the rules for colleges students—especially those attending Norfolk State University, which is one of the nation's largest black universities. In the end, with ACORN people working the ploy, the rule was applied to those, with out-of-state ID claiming to be college students attending classes on colleges or universities anywhere in the State—without the need to prove they were full-time students with temporary roots tied to the Virginia community where they were claiming the right to vote.

Norfolk alone represented several thousand Obama votes. In a close election, the votes cast by the student body of Norfolk State University could easily control who gets Virginia's 13 electoral votes. In other words, out-of-state college students who are most likely also registered to vote in their home States, could decide whether Virginia votes Republican or Democrat this year and, quite possibly, which nominee becomes the 44th President of the United States.

Since there are almost as many colleges and universities in Norfolk, Virginia as there are churches, Kaine had Obama appeal directly to the City of Norfolk to waive the regulations for registering college students to vote. Sadly for the people of Norfolk County and the 239 thousand residents of the City of Norfolk, the integrity of their election has been compromised because, as the Norfolk Electoral Board noted in a statement it issued when the waiver was made, by eliminating the regulation it is impossible to determine the residency status of any college student in Norfolk.

At stake in Virginia is not only the Presidency, but one key US Senate seat and from three to five House seats. When the Washington Post reported that Virginia could very likely become the State that decides the Election of 2008 was it subtlety preparing the voters for the theft of Virginia's 13-electoral votes by the Obama Campaign and ACORN?

Using his discretion as governor, Kaine restored voting rights to 2,633 felons, adding to the 3,000-plus felons whose voting rights were restored by former governor and current Senate candidate Mark Warner. Under what could be called a voting quid pro quo, those felons whose voting rights were restored by Warner voted for Kaine in 2005, and will likely vote to place Warner in the US Senate.

Warner and Kaine only restored the voting rights of those they could reinstate without catching voter flack in rule-of-law Virginia. Restoring voting rights to the hardcore Virginia felons was left to organizations like ACORN/Project Vote that aren't concerned about voter backlash. The scene that played out in the slums of Richmond, Virginia earlier this year was playing out in every major urban city in the country. ACORN/Project Vote operatives, using the federal Motor Voter Law, combined with an even more lethal State laws that allow those registering to vote to immediately cast an absentee ballot that helps them avoids scrutiny. That's why Fido, Kitty, Charles Manson and your 15-year old son or daughter is registered to vote.

In Virginia, ACORN/Project Vote has added 306 thousand new registered voters to the voting roster. All of them—about 75% of whom are not legally eligible to vote, and usually would be challenged before they stepped into the voting booth—will cast unchallenged absentee ballots for Democrats this year. In 2004, President George W. Bush won Virginia's 13 electoral votes by a margin of 262,316 votes. (It is important to understand that ACORN and other George Soros (who is funding ACORN and Project Vote) and Tidewater Foundation-funded voter registration drives have registered over 10 million illegal Democratic Party voters in the United States since President Bill Clinton ran for reelection in 1996. those illegal voters are still voting—and they are still voting for the Party that gave them a voice in American politics. It is critically important for the American people to understand that these billionaires are not putting up millions of dollars because they want to make sure some poor slob's right to vote is not denied because, believe me, they couldn't care it you voted, didn't have a meal yesterday, or dropped dead today. They are putting up millions of dollars solely to guarantee that the people they are bribing get elected by controlling who votes for whom.

If everyone ACORN/Project Vote registered in Virginia this year votes, the Democrats will take Virginia with a margin of 43,784 votes. Virginia is one of the few States in which Constitution Party candidate Chuck Baldwin will have an impact. In 2004, Baldwin and Michael Peroutka took 10,161 votes in Virginia. If Baldwin doubles his showing, the Republican numbers drop by 10 thousand, and the margin of victory for the Democrats becomes approximately 54 thousand votes. The Democrats—and their allies in the liberal media—will claim the voters were hard hit by the economy, and showed their disdain for the Republican banking collapse by voting for Obama (who, together with Sen. Chris Dodd, the Congressional Black Caucus and Carter-era and Clinton-era laws which forced US banks to loan money to minority buyers without the credit standing to merit the loans. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac intensified the problem by guaranteeing millions of bad loans, as favors to politicians, that ultimately collapsed).

But just in case there is a backlash by white voters in Virginia against Obama's pledge to the NAACP to expeditiously implement the redistribution of wealth from the white middle class to the black underclass, ACORN/Project Vote spent the last two years registering those not eligible to vote in every battleground State. In 2004, Ohio was the pivotal State that determined the election. But, had Kerry taken 6 thousand more votes in New Mexico, 5,000 more votes in Iowa and 50 thousand more votes in Colorado, he would have been the 44th President of the United States. Had Al Gore, Jr. taken 41,000 more votes in West Virginia in 2000, Florida's 297 vote victory for Bush-43 would not have mattered at all because union strong West Virginia, which almost always votes Democratic (but which gave its 5 electoral votes to Bush in 2000), would have flipped the election with Gore taking 271 electoral votes and Bush taking 266.

And finally, looking at the States where ACORN/Project Vote investigations are currently taking place, we see why the ACORN/Project Vote effort concentrated on Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Colorado, Nevada, North Carolina, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Florida and Illinois. If Kerry had taken 117,600 more votes in Ohio in 2004, he would have become the 44th President of the United States. ACORN/Project Vote knows Ohio is within their grasp this time around with the new rules that are now being challenged in federal court. So is Nevada and Colorado. They also know, even if they fail to steal Virginia with illegally-registered voters, they can still win Ohio's 20 electoral votes with 117,600 ACORN/Project Vote voters; Nevada's 5 electoral votes with 21,500 ACORN/Project Vote voters; and 9 electoral votes with 96,525 ACORN/Project Vote voters. And, if the Election of 2008 shapes up as a clone of 2004 (which utilized a decade's worth of ACORN/Project Vote voters), Barack Hussein Obama will win the election with 270 electoral votes to 267 for John Sidney McCain.

And if McCain-Palin should somehow prevail, the Democrats who funded ACORN/Project Vote—and the liberal media that concealed the attempted theft of the nation—will all start screaming at the top of their lungs that, once again, George W. Bush and the oil companies stole another election from the people.

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Okay, never mind all polls agreeing that McCain would lose Virginia if voting was held today... therefore Virginia would be STOLEN from McCain?

But I see that there's some ACORN discussion. Can ANYBODY tell me how, if it is true that ACORN registered people as Mikey Mouse and Donald Duck for the purpose of stealing our precious election and tearing apart the fabric of our democracy, how would this Mikey Mouse actually vote?

Inquiring minds would like to know.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-19   10:58:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

The promise of America to its citizens is not economic equality. It is only that the poorest man among us has as much right to liberty as the richest man among us; and that freedom is a gift given to all men by God and not by self-serving politicians who have come to see themselves as gods.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-19   11:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

frankly, i don't believe in the veracity of any election result. this is all theater to make it appear legitimate for the masses. i believe the winners are selected far in advance. if people would all stay home on election day, then the perpetuation of the fraud/charade would end.

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christine  posted on  2008-10-19   11:12:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: christine. all (#3)

if people would all stay home on election day, then the perpetuation of the fraud/charade would end.

I believe that Diebold would still spit out the 'results' which would be dutifully reported, and things would go on as planned.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-19   11:23:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: christine (#3)

Do you believe that all polls are fake? How is this fakery coordinated, given that there are so many poll-taking institutions? [My suspicion is that the polls are not fake.]

I understand that it would be very comforting to hear from the pollsters that a majority of Americans would like to see Ron Paul in the White House but, as far as I know, there is no such poll. There ARE many surveys showing that voters are split between McCain and Obama and that they are paying very little attention to anyone else running for the prez. job. I agree that it's a bit depressing but it's also what it is.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-19   11:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#1)

ACORN/Project Vote operatives, using the federal Motor Voter Law, combined with an even more lethal State laws that allow those registering to vote to immediately cast an absentee ballot that helps them avoids scrutiny. That's why Fido, Kitty, Charles Manson and your 15-year old son or daughter is registered to vote.

Here are the rules for Virginia: http://www.brennancenter.org/studentvoting/states/virginia/

A photocopy of a student ID is all that is needed to vote absentee, that's a joke.

Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle

purpleman  posted on  2008-10-19   11:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)

fake polls

Ever hear of a push poll?

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-10-19   11:36:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#7)

Gallup/Zogby/Rassmussen and many others are not push polls. They are 'scientific polls' as opposed to the fakeries that Lou Dobbs or the various cable stations or Web sites also call 'polls'. It's not so hard to know a scientific poll from a fake one.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-19   11:41:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine, a vast rightwing conspirator, *Agriculture-Environment* (#3)

if people would all stay home on election day, then the perpetuation of the fraud/charade would end.

Bingo! This scares the pols worse than anything, which is why they pay for so much TV time. Nothing reveals the fraud worse than the non-participation of the masses, which is why participation is mandated in many nations, and will be within the United States at some point as well.

There is another point to this; does anyone really believe, after everything that has been revealed about Wall Street and DC, that ANYONE who is elected to public office on the national scene actually makes ANY meaningful decisions?! Come on, answer the question truthfully.

So take it a step further, if you would please; according to the Bible, those who participate in the governments of man (that would include voting, by the way), also participate in the sins of those same governments.

So, is it worth it?

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-10-19   11:42:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#8)

Any poll can become a push poll if the questions aren't phrased properly.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-10-19   14:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: mirage (#10)

I understand what you are saying. Serious polls disclose the questions asked and how they were asked - for example, on multiple-choice questions, the options can be randomly arranged for each individual subject, etc.

The fact is that there is general agreement that Obama has 'some' lead. I believe that the extremes in the daily national polls are between a 3% lead in the Zogby/C-Span poll and a 10% lead in Gallup's with Rasmussen in between at 7%.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2008-10-19   14:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: richard9151 (#9)

From a discussion on backtothebible.org -

Romans 13:1: "Let every soul be subject to governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God. Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves. For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to evil. Do you want to be unafraid of authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. For he is God's minister to you for good. But if you do evil, be afraid; for he does not bear the sword in vain; for he is God's minister, an avenger to execute wrath on him who practices evil."

Well, there you have it. The function of punishment is also a function of godly, ordained government. And the apostle Peter gets his two-cents in when he says, "Therefore submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord's sake, whether to the king as supreme, or to governors, as to those who are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good" (133;Peter 2:13-14). Interesting, isn't it? Today, many governments not only fail to praise those who do good, they also fail to punish those who do evil. And when that's true, government fails the one true God who created government.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-19   15:05:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#11)

The fact is that there is general agreement that Obama has 'some' lead. I believe that the extremes in the daily national polls are between a 3% lead in the Zogby/C-Span poll and a 10% lead in Gallup's with Rasmussen in between at 7%

Okay, I'll buy that's what the numbers say. Note that I'm not disputing that.

But there is also the Bradley Effect to take into consideration.

If you take that into consideration, cheerleading nonwithstanding, Obama needs at least a 10-15% lead in the polls to be seriously considered the President-Elect.

Because of the Bradley Effect, seriously, its a tossup. Until there is a serious lead (and I mean consistent double-digits) the polls are useless.

"A leader, for a change." - Jimmy Carter, 1976 campaign slogan. Sound familiar? Here it comes again!

mirage  posted on  2008-10-19   15:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lodwick, christine, *Bible facts* (#12)

And when that's true, government fails the one true God who created government.

This is true, and when that happens, as is shown in the Bible, those governments are near the end of their authority, and facing judgement.

Now, since you understand that part, here is another verse for you (and others - - if anyone else cares);

Colossians 1:13, 14; He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of his love, 14 by means of whom we have our release by ransom, the forgiveness of our sins. 15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation;

Interesting, is it not? That those who accept Jesus Christ as their Saviour, and the salvation of Jehovah, have been transferred into the Kingdom of His (Jehovah God'S) Son. Ever wonder what it means when you are told that you can not serve two masters?

Then, we have, in the words of Jesus Christ;

John 18:36; Jesus answered: "My kingdom is no part of this world. ...

I find it hard to see how it could be any clearer. If you participate in the sins of this world, you will pay the price of that sin, irregardless of what you have been taught by silken tounged ministers (of the state). Then we have;

1 John 2:15; Do not be loving either the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

All I have to do is watch and read the posts in the 4um to understand the absolute truth of this verse. And esp. the way in which so many treat this election as if it means something! Weird is all I have to say.

Are we in the end times? The Bible, and current events, certainly seems to indicate this. Bible prophecy is being fulfilled in this day.

1 Corinthians 15:24; Next, the end, when he hands over the kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power.

The bottom line is, who cares which government is in power? It matters not, because all of the world lies in the power (right now) of the wicked one. What does that mean for us?

Armagedden? But, would it surprise you to know that this is not what we have been taught that it is? THIS... is Armagedden;

Jeremiah 25:32, 33; "This is what Jehovah of armies has said, 'Look! A calamity is going forth from nation to nation, and a great tempest itself will be roused up from the remotest parts of the earth. 33 And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.'

Everything comes down to a willingness to accept what we are taught by Jehovah God Himself, rather than by men. And the only source we have from Jehovah God is the Bible; which Bible matters not one whit because the message is the same in all of them, for those who will actually open them and study. He, Jehovah God, is waiting for your decision.

When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.

richard9151  posted on  2008-10-19   16:10:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: richard9151 (#14)

And esp. the way in which so many treat this election as if it means something! Weird is all I have to say.

That's where I am on the national level: locally, we've got a chance to vote for a good man for our county sheriff, so I'll participate this year.

Iran Truth Now!

Lod  posted on  2008-10-19   16:29:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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