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Israel/Zionism
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Title: Why I Support Israel and Obama (Dershowitz)
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alan- ... pport-israel-and_b_135660.html
Published: Oct 20, 2008
Author: Dershowitz
Post Date: 2008-10-20 12:25:07 by christine
Keywords: None
Views: 203
Comments: 7

I am a strong supporter of Israel (though sometimes critical of specific policies). I am also a strong supporter of Barack Obama (though I favored Hillary Clinton during the primaries). I am now getting dozens of emails asking me how as a supporter of Israel I can vote for Barack Obama. Let me explain.

I think that on the important issues relating to Israel, both Senator McCain and Senator Obama score very high. During the debates each candidate has gone out of his and her way to emphasize strong support for Israel as an American ally and a bastion of democracy in a dangerous neighborhood. They have also expressed support for Israel's right to defend itself against the nuclear threat posed by Iran which has sworn to wipe Israel off the map and the need to prevent another Holocaust.

There may be some difference in nuance among the candidates, especially with regard to negotiations with Iran, but supporters of Israel should not base their voting decision on which party or which candidates support Israel more enthusiastically. In the United States, Israel is not a divisive issue, and voting for President is not a referendum on support for Israel, at least among the major parties.

I want to keep it that way. I want to make sure that support for Israel remains strong both among liberals and conservatives. It is clear that extremists on both sides of the political spectrum hate Israel, because they hate liberal democracies, because they tend to have a special place in their heart for tyrannical regimes, and because they often have strange views with regard to anything Jewish. The extreme left, as represented by Noam Chomsky, Ralph Nader, Cynthia McKinney, Norman Finkelstein and, most recently, Jimmy Carter has little good to say about the Jewish state. But nor does the extreme right, as represented by Pat Buchanan, Robert Novak, Joseph Sobran and David Duke. When it comes to Israel there is little difference between the extreme right and the extreme left. Nor is there much of a difference between the centrist political left and the centrist political right: both generally support Israel. Among Israel's strongest supporters have always been Ted Kennedy, Harry Reed, Nancy Pelosi, Barney Frank, Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. The same is true of the centrist political right, as represented by Mitt Romney, George W. Bush, Oren Hatch and John McCain.

Why then do I favor Obama over McCain? First, because I support him on policies unrelated to Israel, such as the Supreme Court, women's rights, separation of church and state and the economy. But I also prefer Obama to McCain on the issue of Israel. How can I say that if I have just acknowledged that on the issues they both seem to support Israel to an equal degree? The reason is because I think it is better for Israel to have a liberal supporter in the White House than to have a conservative supporter in the oval office. Obama's views on Israel will have greater impact on young people, on Europe, on the media and on others who tend to identify with the liberal perspective. Although I believe that centrists liberals in general tend to support Israel, I acknowledge that support from the left seems to be weakening as support from the right strengthens. The election of Barack Obama -- a liberal supporter of Israel -- will enhance Israel's position among wavering liberals.

As I travel around university campuses both in the United States and abroad, I see radical academics trying to present Israel as the darling of the right and anathema to the left. As a liberal supporter of Israel, I try to combat that false image. Nothing could help more in this important effort to shore up liberal support for Israel than the election of a liberal president who strongly supports Israel and who is admired by liberals throughout the world. That is among the important reasons why I support Barack Obama for president

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#1. To: christine (#0)

Excuse me while I barf ... Dirtbagowitz's endorsement alone is reason enough to refuse voting for Obama.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is in prison.

Henry David Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2008-10-20   12:27:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine (#0)

In the United States, Israel is not a divisive issue, and voting for President is not a referendum on support for Israel, at least among the major parties.

Huh? Since when?

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2008-10-20   12:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#2)

Unfortunately, Dershowitz is right. The Israeli lobby owns both parties, so there isn't any "choice" for the voters when it comes to mideast foreign policy. At best, you get the choose between an extreme Zionist and a moderate one, with all dissenters in an invisible third party.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-20   12:58:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#3)

Unfortunately, Dershowitz is right. The Israeli lobby owns both parties, so there isn't any "choice" for the voters when it comes to mideast foreign policy. At best, you get the choose between an extreme Zionist and a moderate one, with all dissenters in an invisible third party.

Good post.

I think Dershowitz is trying to shore up Florida's Jewish votes for Obama, the ones who are worried that Obama might talk to Iran before he decided for sure to nuke Iran. Talking to Iran threatens Israel's security, you see.

scrapper2  posted on  2008-10-20   13:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: scrapper2 (#4)

I think Dershowitz is trying to shore up Florida's Jewish votes for Obama, the ones who are worried that Obama might talk to Iran before he decided for sure to nuke Iran. Talking to Iran threatens Israel's security, you see.

Whether Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin occupy the White House in January, Dershowitz and Israel win. Knowing that both candidates support Israel, he can safely pick and choose which candidate's domestic policies might be more to his liking. But if a candidate came along that wasn't trusted by AIPAC, all considerations of US domestic policy would go out the window.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2008-10-20   13:22:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: ALL (#1)

Israel as an American ally and a bastion of democracy in a dangerous neighborhood

BS; on both points

Max  posted on  2008-10-23   0:41:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine, Jethro Tull, James Deffenbach, angle, bluegrass, Old friend (#0)

The reason is because I think it is better for Israel to have a liberal supporter in the White House than to have a conservative supporter in the oval office.

Oh, right, another "conservative" (sic-neoncon warmonger) may have trillion-dollar-per-week military ambitions of his own but a "liberal" will be less likely to short Israel's "defense budget" or line his military defense contractor buddies' pockets for frivolous reasons, i.e., slaughtering folks who don't have anything Israel wants....

And, as a former navy flyer McCain may not care for the plan to nuke an American flattop and vaporize American sailors and flyers just to kick off the "LET'S ALL GLAZE IRAN" party.

And, if either Barack or John "go rogue" once in office they'd rather have Senator ""top half of his class" Biden than Sarah Moosestein take over. She may bring in some wacko religious adviser who tells her that "Jerusalem belongs to all the world's great religions" because of all that old Jesus stuff!

We already know that she's naive enough to be flabbergasted if Israel objects, and stubborn and power hungry enough to think that she's the fucking boss and what she says goes! And, she may even try to use a whisper campaign just as she did against her ex brother-in-law:

"Hello, Pastor, this is Frank Bailey and I'm calling for President Palin. Did you know that Israel wants to keep Jerusalem and kick us Christians out? Well, the more I look at those people the more I think that the attack on the USS Liberty wasn't an accident.

Oh, you don't? Well, let me tell you then. On June 8, 1967 the Israelis in unmarked fighters jets...unmarked, that's correct Pastor! I know, it sounds like something that typical, sneaky, you-know-whats would pull to me, too!..." Anyway, those damned sneaky non Christians attacked our boys in international waters and.....

...So, that's why your president is asking for your support to keep the holy city open for Christian pilgrims and to stop Israel from bull dozing the burial cave of our Lord and Savior....God Bless You Too, Pastor! So, we can count on your support then?

What do I mean? Well, in the next few days we expect that horrid little man Alan Dershowitz to come out with some terrible, ugly lies about the president. And, she and I were thinking of her true friends and we thought, "Wouldn't it be divine justice if a few thousand Virginia Christians bussed it on up to Cambridge and picketed those Harvard heeb-I mean, heathens, homos and hedonists?"...."

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2008-10-23   1:47:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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